Truth in Fiction?

[Weird Harold]

"A woman who shaves or otherwise depilates her pubic curls has a profound interest in recreational sex. My beloved first husband Brian pointed this out to me in the Mauve Decade, circa 1905 Gregorian. I've checked Brian's assertion through a century and a half, endless examples. (I am hot counting prepping for surgery or for childbirth.) The ones who did it because they preferred that styling were without exception hearty healthy, uninhibited hedonists."

The quote above, is from To Sail Beyond The Sunset By Robert A. Heinlein. (Ace/Putnam Paperback Edition Copyright 1987) They are the thoughts of the main character, Maureen Johnson Smith Long, a time traveling and rejuventated lady some 150 years of age who appears to be in her mid-twenties.

As best as I can determine, the thoughts are what RAH truly believed in his real life. He was in his eighties when he wrote this. I've thought of this passage everytime I read a thread about shaving.

The question: Is this premise true or false.

I know there are numerous threads about whether to shave or not, and I don't intend to revive the do you or don't you aspect of this subject, but rather expand it beyond "do you?' or "why?", into the realm of what does it say about you if you do.

If you shave, does the premise stated above apply to you.

If you don't shave, would you describe yourself as a hedonist?

An ancillary point of discussion: How common do you think shaving of the pubes really was circa 1905 (An era that RAH probably was too young to have personal knowledge of this subject.) How common has it been in the years since?

 

[Always]

you ARE weird. weird is good!

anyway, i don't shave, but i would consider myself a hedonist. not sure why, but i think i would.

 

[Svedish_Chef]

As in people who shave are more open about sex? Please stop me if I am wrong but is that the question?

 

[CreamyLady]

Well, I shave; I like it; my lover likes it; and I am an unabashed hedonist.

I do so enjoy the pleasures of the flesh, and would really love to enjoy them in a room with red plush and red satin everywhere; candlelight; sufficient champagne and kind mirrors.

 

[Cheri]

Yes, I shave (thanks Cheyenne) and yes, I have a profound interest in recreational sex. And while that may have been the motivator to take this plunge, the pleasure it personally gives me is why I keep doing it. I've always thought my body looked sexy, but now I take great delight in how my pussy looks.
lol I can't believe I just said that.

 

[Alyrahh]

I'm with ya WH, I doubt very seriously that there was much, If any shaving of the nether regions in 1905... I don't know for a fact, but it seems that's more of a recent trend, correct me if I'm wrong.

The way I shave/trim changes with my changing moods (and if I'm having help with the chore or not). I guess I'll have to agree with the other replies posted here; I shave because I'm a hedonist! There I said it, wasn't painful at all!

So, anyway, I'll take this a step further. Since I'm a woman who either shaves completely, or trims to any variety of "styles" depending on the mood I'm in, does the extent/manner in which the woman shaves depend on how sexually open she is? In my case, the answer would have to be yes. If I've shaved bare, look out, 'cause I'm in need of a wild hook-up! LOL

[Edited by Alyrahh on 09-13-2000 at 08:42 PM]

 

[Guest]

I am defiantly uninhibited, but the main reason I do it (well, did it) is because I think it looks better, and I know when I'm going down on someone I don't like to floss so I like to return the favor. lol

~Tiggs~

 

[Weird Harold]

As in people who shave are more open about sex? Please stop me if I am wrong but is that the question?

It's probably not a perfect definition, but Hedonism is the belief that the purpose of life is to enjoy it.

At least that's close enough for the purposes of this thread. so a hedonist is not necessarily more open about sex, but doesn't have any hangups about it being "wrong" either.

The question in otherwords, "Do you believe, as RAH did, that women who shave their pubes are hedonists?", or maybe "are hedonists the only ones who shave?"

 

[Merelan]

Yes, I feel those that shave have a healthier outlook on life, and sex. Same as those that keep their physical maintenance to a minimum. this includes hair, makeup and nails and clothing. I don't mean these things are wrong and don't have their place. just that the lower maintenance you are, the more time you have for the inner self. I agree with him also when he said that the higher the intelligence, the higher the sex drive. I talked about this before, on another thread. Responses there proved me right.
(haha... I was right about something!!!!)
Heinlein truly felt this. He believed in openess in all things. It is obvious, from reading any of his books, lectures and papers, that not only was he a very intelligent man, but that he had a realistic outlook on life in general. I could quote you many things he said, in his books and out of them, but they all boil down to this.
Being true to yourself. To the true, real you inside. the one, especially in his day, that you had to hide behind the curtains. The one that could get you strung up on the nearest tree back then.
He believed in love, real, long lasting love. But was honest about the fact you can love more then one person. His views on marriage were/are still used in many sociology classes to help explain the many varieties there are. He fell in love and married one woman. Because of the time frame he lived in, any other love life he had, was kept hidden. It comes to light now, through his family, that they shared a plural marriage with another man and 2 other women. It was a shame he had to live when he did. But at least he could openly live in his books.
As you can tell, I am a big fan of his, not only his writings, but his lectures and lifestyle. I never got to meet him, a shame. But my Father and Mother both did. I don't want to sound like I am bragging, believe me or not. They listened to him speak twice and met him afterwards both times. They often talked about him, and introduced me to his writings when in my early teens.
So, to answer the question... oops. I think I did in the first line. See what happens when you get me rambling! Take away my keyboard please or I will keep going.