Trump's list of lies.

Much worse than "I will stop fracking if elected" to "I'm not against fracking" OR "... a wall on the border is racist and we will tear it down" to "I'm gonna build a wall on the border if elected." Of course there's the "the economy is doing great under the new Bidenomics policies" and the "there's no problem at the border, it's secure." She lost the primary vote in her previous run for the presidency due to her far far far left ideologies that made Bernie question her views. She has yet to explain one single policy to address her promises of a brighter future.... NOT ONE!!! Her verbal stumbling and her inability to answer a single question by actually acknowledging to context of that question goes straight to her integrity and the content of her character. As far as Trump's "lies," don't forget the classics like "Hunter Biden's laptop has been taken by the FBI for evidence," and "the Russian collusion story is fake and started by leftist politicians." Oh wait, those weren't lies, were they? If the only way someone has to defend their position is by attacking the opposing side, the best advise that can be given is they need to step back and really re-evaluate their beliefs. Of course Trump lies, and so does Kamala, and every other politician who has the ability to speak. In looking past the lies and basing a decision solely on which candidate has an actual plan and a proven track record in achieving good outcomes because of the policies, Trump wins hands down. Kamala has had many years in office and she has proven over and over again that she supports policies based on a very radical idiology and the results are in the pudding. Just look to the border, to San Fransisco, to our economy. How can one support those policies?
 
Much worse than "I will stop fracking if elected" to "I'm not against fracking" OR "... a wall on the border is racist and we will tear it down" to "I'm gonna build a wall on the border if elected." Of course there's the "the economy is doing great under the new Bidenomics policies" and the "there's no problem at the border, it's secure." She lost the primary vote in her previous run for the presidency due to her far far far left ideologies that made Bernie question her views. She has yet to explain one single policy to address her promises of a brighter future.... NOT ONE!!! Her verbal stumbling and her inability to answer a single question by actually acknowledging to context of that question goes straight to her integrity and the content of her character. As far as Trump's "lies," don't forget the classics like "Hunter Biden's laptop has been taken by the FBI for evidence," and "the Russian collusion story is fake and started by leftist politicians." Oh wait, those weren't lies, were they? If the only way someone has to defend their position is by attacking the opposing side, the best advise that can be given is they need to step back and really re-evaluate their beliefs. Of course Trump lies, and so does Kamala, and every other politician who has the ability to speak. In looking past the lies and basing a decision solely on which candidate has an actual plan and a proven track record in achieving good outcomes because of the policies, Trump wins hands down. Kamala has had many years in office and she has proven over and over again that she supports policies based on a very radical idiology and the results are in the pudding. Just look to the border, to San Fransisco, to our economy. How can one support those policies?
Yes. Much worse. Bigly.

Tariffs across the board is economic suicide.
 
Yes. Much worse. Bigly.

Tariffs across the board is economic suicide.
All politicians say things. Tariffs are a good bargaining tool but I doubt Trump would ever initiate a 10% across the board tariff. More about saber rattling, warning some countries like Germany, Mexico, China and France that their unfair trade practices are on his radar. He's also making domestic companies aware that those companies who manufacturing and produce durable goods and agriculture products in other countries only to sell back to the US they do so at their own peril. Trump is attempting to protect US manufacturing jobs and small farmers, what's wrong with that?
 
It does say something about his cultists that there are entire web pages dedicated to his lies, his crimes, his affairs, his childish insults and they don't care.
It's not as if his policies even worked, the country had the worst time in nearly all respects during his car-crash of a presidency but people are blinded and just believe his lies on that subject as well.

One of the true things he said was that poorly educated people would still vote for him if he shot someone in the street. There's no reason for their dedication to him other than 'it makes other Americans cry'.

So that's OK then.
 
All politicians say things. Tariffs are a good bargaining tool but I doubt Trump would ever initiate a 10% across the board tariff. More about saber rattling, warning some countries like Germany, Mexico, China and France that their unfair trade practices are on his radar. He's also making domestic companies aware that those companies who manufacturing and produce durable goods and agriculture products in other countries only to sell back to the US they do so at their own peril. Trump is attempting to protect US manufacturing jobs and small farmers, what's wrong with that?
USMCA was negotiated and signed by 45. It encourages companies to expand manufacturing to Canada and Mexico.
 
All politicians say things. Tariffs are a good bargaining tool but I doubt Trump would ever initiate a 10% across the board tariff.

More about saber rattling, warning some countries like Germany, Mexico, China and France that their unfair trade practices are on his radar. He's also making domestic companies aware that those companies who manufacturing and produce durable goods and agriculture products in other countries only to sell back to the US they do so at their own peril. Trump is attempting to protect US manufacturing jobs and small farmers, what's wrong with that?


The crazy thing is you actually think Trump understands how tariffs work. Let alone how they can be used as a tool. The reality is that you have to keep trying to explain and rationalize Trump and what he says.

Most of it is equivocating and trying to make light of the terrible and irrational stuff that comes out of his mouth. It amazes me to think that you believe you have any credibility given the fact that your lips are permanently attached to Trump's orange butt so you can hate the libs because you've been programmed to believe they're destroying America.

Manufacturing jobs went down under Trump. We lost manufacturing plants under Trump.

As usual you have no idea what you are saying..
 
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All politicians say things. Tariffs are a good bargaining tool but I doubt Trump would ever initiate a 10% across the board tariff. More about saber rattling, warning some countries like Germany, Mexico, China and France that their unfair trade practices are on his radar. He's also making domestic companies aware that those companies who manufacturing and produce durable goods and agriculture products in other countries only to sell back to the US they do so at their own peril. Trump is attempting to protect US manufacturing jobs and small farmers, what's wrong with that?
It's worth noting that tariffs against China actually wrecked farming exports. The feds had to add subsidies to bail them out

Retaliatory Tariffs Reduced U.S. States’ Exports of Agricultural Commodities

 
All politicians say things. Tariffs are a good bargaining tool but I doubt Trump would ever initiate a 10% across the board tariff. More about saber rattling, warning some countries like Germany, Mexico, China and France that their unfair trade practices are on his radar. He's also making domestic companies aware that those companies who manufacturing and produce durable goods and agriculture products in other countries only to sell back to the US they do so at their own peril. Trump is attempting to protect US manufacturing jobs and small farmers, what's wrong with that?
trump making empty threats of tarrifs when he doesn't understand how tariffs work makes us look incompetent and weak.

Traits I'm sure you find palatable.
 

Donald Trump: My Plan to Make America Affordable Again—and Bring Back the American Dream | Opinion​

By Donald J. Trump

If these companies don't take the deal, they'll pay a tariff when they send their products—made in another country—to us. And we will use the hundreds of billions of tariff dollars to benefit American citizens.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-tru...ain-bring-back-american-dream-opinion-1961727

Fucking dumbass doesn't even know how tariffs work. He just put it in black and white and Newsweek published it.
 
USMCA was negotiated and signed by 45. It encourages companies to expand manufacturing to Canada and Mexico.
Complimentary manufacturing. Mexico Promoting Chinese auto-manufacturers to set up shop then flood the US with Chinese( Mexican) automobiles is not following the spirit of USMCA. I never agreed that tariffs are a solve all policy. I believe lowering corporate tax rates, creating incentives to set up shop in the US is perhaps a better competitive strategy.
 
The worst thing about Trump is that even when he speaks the truth, that's disturbing as well. Because imagine what promises he won't break, and why he won't break those....because there are powerful people who really want those things to happen.
 
Complimentary manufacturing. Mexico Promoting Chinese auto-manufacturers to set up shop then flood the US with Chinese( Mexican) automobiles is not following the spirit of USMCA. I never agreed that tariffs are a solve all policy. I believe lowering corporate tax rates, creating incentives to set up shop in the US is perhaps a better competitive strategy.
45 is literally at odds with himself.

Either he adheres to the USMCA or he doesn't.
 
California Dreaming: Anatomy of Trump’s Craziest Lie

Trump’s never ending stream of lies includes “If Jesus Christ came down and was the vote counter, I would win California, OK?… if we had an honest vote counter, I would win California.”

Trump’s “evidence” is that he sees a lot of Trump signs when he goes to rallies and that the Golden State has mail-in voting. Seriously, that’s all he has.

Start with the fact that registered Democrats outnumber Republicans in California by 22 percent.Republicans make up only 24.7 percent of registered voters in the Golden State, compared to 46.2 percent registered as Democrats. In California, multiple surveys show that independent voters tend to align themselves more with Democrats. There is zero chance that Trump can win the state with those numbers. Mail voting doesn’t explain it, either: no Republican presidential candidate has reached 40 percent of the vote in California in the last 20 years, a time before widespread mail-in voting.

And yet, there are gullible MAGAs who continue to believe Donald when he says stupid shit. 😆
 
i think it pertinent here to just remind ourselves that a lot of people who support trump ACTUALLY believe him (and his megaphones of fox media, newsmax, oan, other top-ranking politicians and some 'famous people')

it's not just a case of knowing what a con-man & felon he is and ignoring it... they honestly don't believe he is and anyone saying otherwise is lying, or they kinda know but don't think those things really matter and he probably shouldn't have been prosecuted for them.


education, education, education.
 

Donald Trump: My Plan to Make America Affordable Again—and Bring Back the American Dream | Opinion​

By Donald J. Trump



https://www.newsweek.com/donald-tru...ain-bring-back-american-dream-opinion-1961727

Fucking dumbass doesn't even know how tariffs work. He just put it in black and white and Newsweek published it.

Thanks for this pollution, Newsweek. Where was the Op Ed in this rag taking apart his demented ramblings?

Edit: I do love that they have this at the end of his shitpost inferring that he was a presidential candidate—not currently.

Donald J. Trump was the 45th president of the United States and a presidential candidate.
 
i think it pertinent here to just remind ourselves that a lot of people who support trump ACTUALLY believe him (and his megaphones of fox media, newsmax, oan, other top-ranking politicians and some 'famous people')

it's not just a case of knowing what a con-man & felon he is and ignoring it... they honestly don't believe he is and anyone saying otherwise is lying, or they kinda know but don't think those things really matter and he probably shouldn't have been prosecuted for them.


education, education, education.
They circle-jerk their unquestioning support and totally disregard anything to the contrary. If anyone wants to feel dumber, read the comments on NotTooBrightBart about Trump rescuing North Carolina with his tiny handful of emergency supplies. A small number of valiant souls try to point out that he was lying, but the cultists are wilfully ignorant.

https://www.breitbart.com/t/assets/...NC as Kamala’s Katrina Leaves State Helpless|

Original 'news' story here, https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-nc-as-kamalas-katrina-leaves-state-helpless/
 
They circle-jerk their unquestioning support and totally disregard anything to the contrary. If anyone wants to feel dumber, read the comments on NotTooBrightBart about Trump rescuing North Carolina with his tiny handful of emergency supplies. A small number of valiant souls try to point out that he was lying, but the cultists are wilfully ignorant.

https://www.breitbart.com/t/assets/html/disqus-50.html?udca=https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/10/01/nolte-trump-takes-lead-in-nc-as-kamalas-katrina-leaves-state-helpless/|28115914|Nolte: Trump Takes Lead in NC as Kamala’s Katrina Leaves State Helpless|

Original 'news' story here, https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-nc-as-kamalas-katrina-leaves-state-helpless/
i cannot take one for the team, there... it's just too much of a sewer
 
i think it pertinent here to just remind ourselves that a lot of people who support trump ACTUALLY believe him (and his megaphones of fox media, newsmax, oan, other top-ranking politicians and some 'famous people')

it's not just a case of knowing what a con-man & felon he is and ignoring it... they honestly don't believe he is and anyone saying otherwise is lying, or they kinda know but don't think those things really matter and he probably shouldn't have been prosecuted for them.


education, education, education.
Yeah, there's a lot of true believers in MAGA/Trump. Most of my family are among them. Oddly, not my older niece, the 25 year old one (her half-sister just turned three today, not exactly of voting age). Her father, my brother, is a retired 24 year Air Force veteran and is still irate at the Obama Administration for a lot of issues that happened during that time. I can't really refute his point there. Even so, I don't see that as a valid excuse to back a mentally deranged draft-dodger as Commander-in-Chief. My parents and my sister in particular are hard-core religious right social conservatives, all the way down the line. That has always been the case. That was how I was brought up, though I was always a bit less extreme on social issues myself (maybe because I sensed on some level that I wasn't entirely heterosexual?). Even so, I faithfully voted their way until 2006, and even after that, I still backed the GOP in 2010, 2012, and 2014 (though with a very different emphasis and motive).

I broke ranks in the Presidential contest for the first time in 2008, voting for the Libertarian, Bob Barr. I didn't vote at all in 2006, due to some red tape, but I would almost certainly have voted for the Democrats that year out of disgust for the GOP right at that time (Katrina, Samuel Alito...wasn't a fan, the Iraq War, Tom De Lay/Jack Abramoff, and the anti-gay push in Texas at the time). I was back in the Republican camp in 2010, in no small part because I wasn't happy with the initial results of the ACA, though in hindsight, that wasn't precisely all or even mostly the fault of the Obama Administration or Democrats in Congress. There were other culprits (looking at some employers, Governors, state legislatures, and lawyers who sued to reverse key components of the law). I very reluctantly supported Romney in the general election in 2012, though I honestly would have preferred Ron Paul (who got my vote in the primaries). Oddly, that year, I crossed party lines on the Maricopa County Sheriff race, convinced that the Democratic candidate, Paul Penzone, would do a better job than the ancient and scandal-prone Joe Arpaio. That wasn't a difficult decision for me, but others took a while to catch up, as Arpaio held on that time (losing to Penzone four years later in 2016, thank Gods!).

By 2014, I was a bit more leery of the GOP, but I also didn't trust the Democrats at all as a general rule, so I kept to my usual party preference, but the following year, I was so incensed by Mike Pence's "religious freedom" law in Indiana and a few other issues (I was already annoyed by the sequester/shutdown, but there were a number of actions that the Democrats that angered me, such as the "Fast and Furious" business and the IRS probe into conservative organizations, among other things) that I began moving away from the GOP slowly. I didn't formally re-register until May 4, 2016, not realizing until much too late that Bernie Sanders had a realistic chance to capture the Democratic nomination. I end up voting for Lindsey Graham in the GOP Primary, not out of support for his positions, but because he was the loudest anti-Trump voice in the GOP at the time. By this time, I had donated some money to Bernie, later donated to the Democrats to help get Hillary Clinton and other Democrats elected, and I naturally voted for her against Trump. As I said recently, I was an OG Never Trumper.

By 2018, I was a fairly progressive Democrat, a full-on "Resistance" guy, voting for a more liberal candidate in the Senate race against Kyrsten Sinema, though I backed her over Martha McSally in November. I think that Bernie Sanders was a major influence over my shift leftward, to be frank. He just made a lot more sense than the Republicans that I used to back. Also, by then, I had largely traded out Fox for CNN and especially MSNBC. I was a regular Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Lawrence O'Donnell, Morning Joe, etc. viewer by that point. The next year, though, I began to view more independent media and started supporting Tulsi Gabbard and Mike Gravel as well as Bernie to an extent. In the end, I voted for Tulsi, just before quitting the Democratic Party in disgust over how the primaries went down. I have been an independent ever since. I didn't come back around as far as voting for Biden/Harris (especially I had some issues with Harris as many Tulsi voters would) until the fall, though I knew that I couldn't vote for Trump. That just wasn't an option. The guy was openly advocating some strange stuff and he had badly bungled the COVID crisis. I decided that I didn't want to chance it with another Trump term and I didn't fully trust the Libertarian for a variety of reasons (especially her fiscal policy, as Libertarians tend toward being very right-wing on that stuff).

Fast forward to now, I was seriously considering RFK, Jr. but I was bothered by some of his comments (the weird claim about my Ashkenazic brethren and the Asians on our health was off-putting, as were his remarks about autism as if it was the worst-case scenario....as an autistic person, that was a bit much). I agreed with him about Frankenfoods and the dangers of a cashless economy, but some of his talk about vaccines was a bit of a stretch, too. As for Trump, just when I thought that maybe I had misjudged the motherfucker, nope, he reminded me of that racist, wild, unhinged talk, continuing the election denial nonsense that turned me off Kari Lake, Blake Masters, etc., all of the bizarre fawning over foreign dictators, etc. I was very off put by the campus riots that endangered some Jewish students, but I was even more bothered by his increasingly inflammatory and stochastic statements that repeatedly confirmed my past fears that he was in fact senile and perhaps a bit insane. Yes, some of the Democratic Party antics bothered me a bit, but they weren't half as wild and disturbing as things like Mark Robinson the Black Nazi, Trump's weird dance on Project 2025 (will he, won't he?), the anti-Semitic rhetoric blaming Jews for his possible loss, the continued nonsense about "rigged elections," the strange insult to Zelensky, and the defamation of legal Haitian refugees over "cats and dogs."

In short, the man is just plain unfit for the highest office in the land, period. So, anyway, that rambling post is a bit more of my own story of breaking free from the religious right and its hold on my family. That's a bit of my background.
 
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