Trump's Lies

[Carnal_Flower]

Another good editorial from the BIASED, DECEITFUL, and DISHONEST NY Times. Oh wait a second, Trump backtracked on that when he met with the Times recently. Now it's a "great jewel." Calling him out for being a big fat liar.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/28/o...-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region


"This is a lie, part of Mr. Trump’s pattern, stretching back many years, of disregard for indisputable facts. There is no evidence of illegal voting on even a small scale anywhere in the country, let alone a systematic conspiracy involving “millions.” But this is the message that gets hammered relentlessly by right-wing propaganda sites like InfoWars, which is run by a conspiracy theorist who claims the Sandy Hook school massacre was a hoax — and whose absurdities Mr. Trump has often shouted through his megaphone, which will shortly bear the presidential seal. Mr. Trump added more fuel to the fire with the false claim of “serious voter fraud” in California, Virginia and New Hampshire — all states that went for Hillary Clinton.

In addition to insulting law-abiding voters everywhere, these lies about fraud threaten the foundations of American democracy. They have provided the justification for state voter-suppression laws around the country, and they could give the Trump administration a pretext to roll back voting rights on a national scale."

 

[phrodeau]

To be fair you should post a few of Hillbillys lies.

Why? What possible future importance is Hillary Clinton?

 

[sr71plt]

To be fair you should post a few of Hillbillys lies.

That would be instructive--if, of course, we posted hers for twenty-four hours next to his. I doubt you'd "get" the obvious difference this would show, though.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Observe the brainwashing.

Like Pavlov's dog. Only, 45 million all at once. They really believe it.

Rabid, animalistic, primal. Kinda like how those Germans thought of the Jew.

Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up! Hillary is a dirty lying corrupt cunt! She should be shot in the vagina!

She's the Anti-Christ, and Adolf--er, Trump--is our saviour! Hail Trump!

Another dumb fuck



QUOTE=Richard_Picture;82159280]To be fair you should post a few of Hillbillys lies.[/QUOTE]

 

[Hard_Rom]

To be fair you should post a few of Hillbillys lies.

Why don't you start a thread on that. Then we can compare number and ridiculousness of lies.

 

[DooleyDarter]

Waa Waa Waa, it's just not fair to the snowflakes

 

[Hard_Rom]

Waa Waa Waa, it's just not fair to the snowflakes

Snowflakes are pure and clean. Not like POS like you!

 

[Carnal_Flower]

That must make Trump a snowflake, then, because he's whining that the popular vote was rigged.

Too much for Dooley to cram inside his head.


QUOTE=DooleyDarter;82163548]Waa Waa Waa, it's just not fair to the snowflakes[/QUOTE]

 

[phrodeau]

All snowflakes are white.

 

[JackLuis]

If you are going to list all of Trumpkins lies and misrepresentations, this thread will be longer than "Your Helpful Police" soon.

The Kremlin Would Be Proud of Trump’s Propaganda Playbook

On April 16, 2015, one month after Russian soldiers entered eastern Ukraine and joined Moscow-backed separatists in the slaughter of more than 130 Ukrainian troops in a town called Debaltseve, Russian President Vladimir Putin continued to perpetuate a claim that was growing increasingly ludicrous. "I can tell you outright and unequivocally that there are no Russian troops in Ukraine," he declared in a broadcast to the Russian people.

The denial was a classic propaganda move. "The first Russian approach to negative reporting or comment is to dismiss it, either by denying the allegations on the ground, or denigrating the one who makes them," writes Ben Nimmo, a British-based analyst of Russian information warfare and strategy. Specifically, this approach is an example of dismissal, one of four distinct ways the Putin government tries to spin facts and misinform the public, as identified by Nimmo. He calls it the 4D Approach: dismiss, distract, distort, and dismay.

"Sometimes when fake news is debunked, among certain circles it actually gives it more legitimacy," says Aric Toler, an analyst at Bellingcat, an open-source investigative outlet. "It's the, 'This is what they don't want you to know,' argument." To effectively combat it, each fake story has to be turned inside out and transparently debunked at every step. News stories that quote experts won't convince skeptics, says Toler. His advice for the news media: "Assume you have no credibility." Perhaps Obama said it best in a post-election interview with The New Yorker: Our new information landscape "means everything is true and nothing is true."

 

[phrodeau]

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/...-pants-fire-serious-voter-fraud-claim-virgin/

President-elect Donald Trump has peppered his Twitter account with a charge that the presidential election was marred by voter fraud in Virginia and two other states that he lost.

"Serious voter fraud in Virginia, New Hampshire and California - so why isn’t the media reporting on this? Serious bias," Trump said in a Nov. 27 tweet.

Our ruling

Trump said there was "serious voter fraud in Virginia" during this presidential election.

The top state election official in Virginia says the charge is "unfounded." The former chairman of Trump’s Virginia campaign says he’s unaware of any "massive voter fraud on Election Day."

There’s a burden on Trump to prove his sensational claim, and the president-elect offers no evidence. We rate his statement Pants on Fire.

A final note: Our colleagues at PolitiFact New Hampshire and PolitiFact California also gave Pants on Fire ratings to Trump’s claim of serious voter fraud in those states.

Isn't there a rule about three strikes and something?

 

[Hard_Rom]

Its not lies its post-truth!

Post-truth politics (also called post-factual politics) is a political culture in which debate is framed largely by appeals to emotion disconnected from the details of policy, and by the repeated assertion of talking points to which factual rebuttals are ignored. Post-truth differs from traditional contesting and falsifying of truth by rendering it of "secondary" importance.

The defining trait of post-truth politics is that campaigners continue to repeat their talking points, even if these are found to be untrue by the media or independent experts. In a review for the Harvard Gazette, Christopher Robichaud, lecturer in ethics and public policy at Harvard Kennedy School described conspiracy theories about the legitimacy of elections and politicians – for example, the "birther" idea that Barack Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen – as one side-effect of post-truth politics, and contrasted the behaviour of the candidates with that following the contested result of the 2000 election, in which Al Gore conceded and encouraged his supporters to accept the result of Bush v. Gore. Similarly, Rob Boston writing for The Humanist saw a rise in conspiracy theories across American public life, including Birtherism, the 9/11 Truth movement, the edited Planned Parenthood videos and movements denying climate change and rejecting evolution, which he identified as a result of post-truth politics, noting that the existence of extensive and widely available evidence against these conspiracy theories had not slowed their growth.

Several trends in the media landscape have been blamed for the perceived rise of post-truth politics. Trust in major institutions, including the structures of government and the mainstream media, has reached historical lows in countries around the world. It has been suggested that under these conditions fact-checking by news outlets struggles to gain traction among the wider public, and politicians resort to increasingly drastic messaging. Social media adds an additional dimension, as the networks that users create can become echo chambers (possibly emphasised by the filter bubble) where one political viewpoint dominates and scrutiny of claims fails, allowing a parallel media ecosystem of websites, publishers and news channels to develop which can repeat post-truth claims without rebuttal. In this environment, post-truth campaigns can ignore fact checks or dismiss them as being motivated by bias.

Although the consensus among scientists is that the Earth's climate is warming due to human activities, several political parties around the world have made climate change denial a basis of their policies. These parties have been accused of using post-truth techniques to attack environmental measures meant to combat climate changes to benefit industry donors. In Australia, the repeal of carbon pricing by the government of Tony Abbott was described as "the nadir of post-truth politics" by The Age.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-truth_politics

 

[sr71plt]

I think the key word of the Trump campaign and thus far of the preparation to enter office is "deflection." It's been highly successful with the brain dead.

 

[JackLuis]

I think the key word of the Trump campaign and thus far of the preparation to enter office is "deflection." It's been highly successful with the brain dead.

Dismiss, distract, distort, and dismay. Classic propaganda techniques work on the uncritical thinkers, AKA Stupid people.

 

[Hypoxia]

Dismiss, distract, distort, and dismay. Classic propaganda techniques work on the uncritical thinkers, AKA Stupid people.

We know the pattern. Something embarrassing pops up. Tromp tweets something totally irrelevant to shift attention. It used to be called Wag The Dog.

 

[JackLuis]

ABC host hammers Pence over voter fraud claim: ‘Why is it refreshing to make false statements?’

Vice president-elect Mike Pence asserted on Sunday that Donald Trump was “entitled” to say that millions of Americans voted illegally — even if the claim was false.

During an interview on ABC’s This Week, host George Stephanopoulos reminded the future vice president of a recent tweet in which Trump declared that he lost the popular vote because of the “millions of people who voted illegally.”

“That claim is groundless,” Stephanopoulos pointed out. “There’s no evidence to back it up. Is it responsible for a president elect to make false statements like that?”

Pence defended himself by pointing to an unrelated 2012 Pew Center study on outdated voter registrations. However, the study’s author has said that he found no evidence of voter fraud. Politifact recently gave Trump’s team a “Pants of Fire” rating for linking the Pew Study to voter fraud.

“That statement is false,” the ABC host pressed.

“I think the president-elect just wants to call to attention the fact that there has been evidence over many years,” Pence stuttered. “It’s certainly his right.”
“I think one of the things that’s refreshing about our president-elect,” Pence replied, “I think he made such an incredible connection with people all across this country because he tells you what’s on his mind.”

Oh Yes! It is 'refreshing' to have a mentally disconnected Tweeter about to gain control over the American War Machine.