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Trump issue Executive Order rebranding "Secretary of Defense" to "Secretary of War"

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Hoping to distract from China's very successful military parade last week (featuring guest stars Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un), President Trump has issued yet another of his royal decrees (aka "executive orders") rebranding the Secretary of Defense to Secretary of War.

Warlord Pete Kegsbreath unavailable for comment.

Fascism, it's not just for Nazi Germany and present day Israel anymore!
 
RobDownSouth said:
Hoping to distract from China's very successful military parade last week (featuring guest stars Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un), President Trump has issued yet another of his royal decrees (aka "executive orders") rebranding the Secretary of Defense to Secretary of War.

Warlord Pete Kegsbreath unavailable for comment.

Fascism, it's not just for Nazi Germany and present day Israel anymore!
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The United States had a Secretary of War from 1789 to 1947, a span of 158 years. Notably, the last war we decisively won was under a Secretary of War. During a Republican-controlled Congress, the War Department was renamed the National Military Establishment, and under a Democratic majority in 1949, it became the Department of Defense, signed into law by President Harry Truman. Since adopting the “defense” posture, the U.S. has struggled to achieve clear, decisive victories.

Returning to the historic title of Secretary of War isn’t about nostalgia; it’s about clarity, focus, and accountability. Today’s Department of Defense is vast, bureaucratic, and often reactive; reclaiming the original name would signal a renewed commitment to mission-first military readiness, decisive action, and clear civilian oversight. “War Department” carries weight, reminding both the American people and our adversaries that our armed forces exist to win conflicts, not merely manage them. Paired with reforms to streamline bureaucracy and sharpen strategy, this symbolic reset could put the department, and the nation’s defense posture, back on a winning track. It sends a clear message to our adversaries: if America is threatened, we will act with offensive resolve, not passive defense.
 
Rightguide said:
The United States had a Secretary of War from 1789 to 1947, a span of 158 years. Notably, the last war we decisively won was under a Secretary of War. During a Republican-controlled Congress, the War Department was renamed the National Military Establishment, and under a Democratic majority in 1949, it became the Department of Defense, signed into law by President Harry Truman. Since adopting the “defense” posture, the U.S. has struggled to achieve clear, decisive victories.

Returning to the historic title of Secretary of War isn’t about nostalgia; it’s about clarity, focus, and accountability. Today’s Department of Defense is vast, bureaucratic, and often reactive; reclaiming the original name would signal a renewed commitment to mission-first military readiness, decisive action, and clear civilian oversight. “War Department” carries weight, reminding both the American people and our adversaries that our armed forces exist to win conflicts, not merely manage them. Paired with reforms to streamline bureaucracy and sharpen strategy, this symbolic reset could put the department, and the nation’s defense posture, back on a winning track. It sends a clear message to our adversaries: if America is threatened, we will act with offensive resolve, not passive defense.
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We aren't at war.
 
RobDownSouth said:
Hoping to distract from China's very successful military parade last week (featuring guest stars Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un), President Trump has issued yet another of his royal decrees (aka "executive orders") rebranding the Secretary of Defense to Secretary of War.

Warlord Pete Kegsbreath unavailable for comment.

Fascism, it's not just for Nazi Germany and present day Israel anymore!
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The Hollywood-type weapons props were pretty impressive as well to your eye, right?
 
Well, all the congressional appropriations thus far were made for the Department of Defense, and as far as I know none were made for the Department of War. Does this mean financial problems for the military?
 
ll74 said:
War has nothing to do with the department of war?

Interesting take
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We don't have to be at war in order to have a War Department. As I said, we weren't at war in 1789 when George Washington formed the War Department. The Revolutionary War ended in 1783 with the Treaty of Paris.
 
UsuallyPresent said:
Well, all the congressional appropriations thus far were made for the Department of Defense, and as far as I know none were made for the Department of War. Does this mean financial problems for the military?
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No. The Pentagon’s budget comes from the annual National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and corresponding appropriations bills passed by Congress. The name of the agency shouldn't make any practical difference.
 
How soon before the Department of War manages to get the war with Venezuela started ?

Oil companies want that oil !!

Looking up where our ships were that has F16s near them

Shitty Reporting. Was it NEAR or OVER
Were they maybe over their own territorial water ?

Everyone is reading “buzzed” like the low passes that Tom Cruise finds amusing in “Top Gun”

Look up “Yellow Journalism”. Or how many wars have started with questionable news. This shit is driven by the military and the White House.

“A pair of Venezuelan fighter jets made an aggressive low pass over a US Navy (USN) destroyer in the Caribbean Sea on 4 September, inflaming an already tense situation in the region.

The US Department of Defense says two Venezuelan military aircraft “flew near” a USN ship in international waters.

The Pentagon did not immediately provide details about the incident, such as the type of aircraft involved or the name of the vessel, but describes the act as a “provocative move”.
 
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Rightguide said:
We don't have to be at war in order to have a War Department. As I said, we weren't at war in 1789 when George Washington formed the War Department. The Revolutionary War ended in 1783 with the Treaty of Paris.
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Neat. It's dumb. Defense department made more sense.
 
Rightguide said:
No. The Pentagon’s budget comes from the annual National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and corresponding appropriations bills passed by Congress. The name of the agency shouldn't make any practical difference.
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You sure? The 2024 NDAA starts "To authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2024 for military activities of the Department of Defense" - not the Department of War.

Has congress started to amend this yet for the draft for FY2025? I didn’t see anything on the website about it.
 
Obviously the USA wont be going after the Source of the Cocaine, Columbia.

No oil there.

Lol
 
It was the Department of War until a couple of years after World War II when the Department of teh Navy was merged into the War Department and it became the Department of Defense.

But Trump doesn't have the power to do this unilaterally.
 
SkyBubble said:
It was the Department of War until a couple of years after World War II when the Department of teh Navy was merged into the War Department and it became the Department of Defense.

But Trump doesn't have the power to do this unilaterally.
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dear leader's minions of congress will advance his demands forthwith
 
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