Trolls Who Lie in Wait

[Boxlicker101]

I believe some trolls are lying in wait for my new stories. On the last two, one of them had two one-bombs out of the first four votes. On the newest one, the sccond vote was a one-bomb. The rest, so far at least, have been fives.

 

[rgraham666]

I believe some trolls are lying in wait for my new stories. On the last two, one of them had two one-bombs out of the first four votes. On the newest one, the sccond vote was a one-bomb. The rest, so far at least, have been fives.

I think he's//she's doing it to everybody. First vote on my latest was a troll vote.

 

[PAUL C]

they are not new

i was getting them in 2001 and still get them.

i suppose some do it for some sort of perverted gratification. whilst some do it to take down stories that appear in the lists above them.

i'll admit i do not post as many stories as i once did because of it.

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

i was getting them in 2001 and still get them.

i suppose some do it for some sort of perverted gratification. whilst some do it to take down stories that appear in the lists above them.

i'll admit i do not post as many stories as i once did because of it.

Hi, Paul. Long time, no see.

Those early one-bombs hurt because they often keep a story from earning an H while on the first page of the new list. That can cut down on views.

Rumple Foreskin

 

[starrkers]

My last story (before the how to contest) scored a troll 1 for its first vote. It has finally clawed its way to H status. But it took quite a while, thanks to that one vote.

 

[only_more_so]

I believe some trolls are lying in wait for my new stories. On the last two, one of them had two one-bombs out of the first four votes. On the newest one, the sccond vote was a one-bomb. The rest, so far at least, have been fives.

My latest story got a 1-bomb for the first vote! Really pisses me off since the story is hypnosis/mind control which doesn't get a lot of votes to begin with, meaning it will take forever to overcome the vote.

Maybe we should start an anti-troll voting. If you have a story that got one bombed, ask other people to 5-bomb it, to even the score out

 

[curiositykitten]

i suppose some do it for some sort of perverted gratification. whilst some do it to take down stories that appear in the lists above them.

What a shame! Don't let them limit you! I am so NAIVE - had no idea of this underhanded strategy just to get rated higher on a list. This is why I have not been able to submit to contests yet, although i've had good material, I actually thought people wrote for the enjoyment of it - and the rewards of hearing from my readers way surpass any scores I could ever receive. I need to listen to my own advice, though, and get my work out there again - just for the pure pleasure of writing it and sharing it with the ones who DO want to read. Whatever happened to that simple Kindergarten rule to "play nice and play fair?"

 

[only_more_so]

My last story (before the how to contest) scored a troll 1 for its first vote. It has finally clawed its way to H status. But it took quite a while, thanks to that one vote.

Next time that happens, let me know and I'll stop by your story, even if it's in a category I wouldn't normally read.

 

[gauchecritic]

Casting no aspersions but a one 'bomb' is only a bomb if the rest of your votes are fives. Getting a 5 bomb from friendly fire doesn't serve any particularly useful purpose either.

It could be, however unlikely, that these trolls actually do believe the stories they read deserve a 1.

There are very, very few stories at Lit that I would honestly say deserve a five (definitely including most of my own in there) on various grounds, but there are a great many that do deserve an average of 4.5 (the H number) which is why, when I do vote I round up to 5 rather than down to 4.

 

[starrkers]

I don't look at a 5 as perfection (god, if it was, I can't think of anything I've ever written anywhere that would deserve it). The voting system doesn't offer 0. Therefore the votes offer 20% blocks. 5 = to 20%, 4 = next 20% etc down to 1 = bottom 20%.
I'd like to think most of the people who post in the AH rate 4 or 5, unless on a very bad day

 

[Boxlicker101]

Casting no aspersions but a one 'bomb' is only a bomb if the rest of your votes are fives. Getting a 5 bomb from friendly fire doesn't serve any particularly useful purpose either.

It could be, however unlikely, that these trolls actually do believe the stories they read deserve a 1.

There are very, very few stories at Lit that I would honestly say deserve a five (definitely including most of my own in there) on various grounds, but there are a great many that do deserve an average of 4.5 (the H number) which is why, when I do vote I round up to 5 rather than down to 4.

I am inclined to agree with you and Starkers. If a story or poem has received ten or more votes, and its average is about 2.00, some of those votes were ones, and they were not out of line. I have read some crap on the site, and it takes real rubbbish to rate a one from me. I doubt if I have cast more than three, total.

A five doesn't mean a story is perfect. What you can think of is that on a scale of one through 100, it rates a 90 or more. That would be 4.5 on a scale of 1 to 5, but we can't do that either.

Sometimes a troll will give a reason for a one-bomb, such as they don't like anal sex, (in a group sex story) or they don't like lesbians, or other such reasons. I don't consider those to be valid reasons, but the trolls apparently do.

 

[only_more_so]

Casting no aspersions but a one 'bomb' is only a bomb if the rest of your votes are fives. Getting a 5 bomb from friendly fire doesn't serve any particularly useful purpose either.

It could be, however unlikely, that these trolls actually do believe the stories they read deserve a 1.

There are very, very few stories at Lit that I would honestly say deserve a five (definitely including most of my own in there) on various grounds, but there are a great many that do deserve an average of 4.5 (the H number) which is why, when I do vote I round up to 5 rather than down to 4.

I wasn't actually suggesting a 5-bomb, but rather getting a lot of authors to look at the story and rate it as they feel appropriate. 10 honest votes can mask a 1-bomb.

 

[gauchecritic]

I wasn't actually suggesting a 5-bomb, but rather getting a lot of authors to look at the story and rate it as they feel appropriate. 10 honest votes can mask a 1-bomb.

I wasn't taking you seriously on that suggestion either. But the question is; Is soliciting 'friendly fire' any better an indicator of merit than a 1 bomb is of ...erm .. non-merit?

 

[only_more_so]

I wasn't taking you seriously on that suggestion either. But the question is; Is soliciting 'friendly fire' any better an indicator of merit than a 1 bomb is of ...erm .. non-merit?

The only reason I think it is appropriate is that there are so many stories that many readers flock to the stories with the "H". Since authors write (at least those who post) do so to be read, a 1-bomb can severely impact the number or reads. Also, if the friendly fire doesn't bring the story up to a good rating, then an author can assume that he/she is doing something wrong and can work on it.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I wasn't taking you seriously on that suggestion either. But the question is; Is soliciting 'friendly fire' any better an indicator of merit than a 1 bomb is of ...erm .. non-merit?

The only time I would solicit "friendly fire" would be if I had a story that was in the running for a prize of some sort, such as in a theme contest, or was a contender for a monthly nomination. All of my stories now end in a paragraph to the effect that I hope the readers have enjoyed the story, and inviting them to vote and leave public comments or email them to me. Obviously, I prefer compliments, but I read everything. I only delete those that are personally insulting or serve no purpose. Even then, I leave those comments that I find amusing.

As for a group of "5" votes overwhelming a one bomb, it might never happen. On occasion, the first ten votes on something I wrote have been "5". That puts it at the top of its category. Within a few hours of its appearance there, a one-bomb will be launched. The average will never again be 5.00.

In a more realistic scenario, suppose a story has received twenty votes, all of "5" except one "4". The average will be 4.95. Suppose also, it gets hit with a one-bomb. The average will drop to 4.76, which is not bad, but no prize-winner either. Furthermore, in order to get the average back up to 4.95, it would take 79 votes of "5", with no other lower votes. Figure it out:

4.95 X 20 = 99
99 + 1 = 100
100/21 = 4.76
79 X 5 =395
395+100 =495
495/100 = 49.5

 

[WRJames]

I had the same thing happen to me with one story recently -- it started with a five, then two ones, then a five -- I started a thread a couple of days ago on it.

I thought maybe it was too offensive -- is that possible? But now it has had three "4" votes in addition. So maybe it was trolls.

 

[rgraham666]

I take it as a given that I will receive a number of one votes on any new story. As I said earlier there is at least one person who I believe goes into every new story, skips right to the voting and votes '1'. Probably more than one.

They or someone similar also goes into stories in the top lists and votes '1'. If a story is really popular you can count on getting a one vote at least once every couple of weeks.

Shrugs. Just the things work here.

On the other hand, Lit makes an effort to sweep dishonest votes. They won't tell us how they do it, because if the trolls knew, they'd figure out a way to get around it. But generally if a vote is dishonest, it will be removed sooner or later.

 

[starrkers]

Well I've managed to stir one up. Sometime today he's gone through my entire list and voted 1 on every story.
I didn't think they were ALL that bad

 

[wishfulthinking]

The Dummies Guide to Trolling

or in plain english, I found this: http://www.literotica.com/stories/category_toplist.php?type=story

It lists the top scoring stories as soon as they hit 10, which is usually when stories are on the new list. I had to laugh when I saw it. I always wondered how they did it when it wasn't just a hate vote.

Everyone gets trolled. It balances out the dedicated fans.

 

[gauchecritic]

The Dummies Guide to Trolling

or in plain english, I found this: http://www.literotica.com/stories/category_toplist.php?type=story

It lists the top scoring stories as soon as they hit 10, which is usually when stories are on the new list. I had to laugh when I saw it. I always wondered how they did it when it wasn't just a hate vote.

Everyone gets trolled. It balances out the dedicated fans.

Methinks I'll have to write a novel/novella if I want a sustained top tenner.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by wishfulthinking
The Dummies Guide to Trolling

or in plain english, I found this: http://www.literotica.com/stories/c....php?type=story

It lists the top scoring stories as soon as they hit 10, which is usually when stories are on the new list. I had to laugh when I saw it. I always wondered how they did it when it wasn't just a hate vote.

Everyone gets trolled. It balances out the dedicated fans.

Methinks I'll have to write a novel/novella if I want a sustained top tenner.

That would work. The problem is, Novels and Novellas get so few votes that would take a long time to get the necessary ten to break into the list. The highest ranked story was posted almost seven months ago, and has only 17 votes.

 

[only_more_so]

So maybe the trick is to have one 4 vote if you have a story that is getting all 5-votes. That way you only lose 1 point instead of 4 points.

 

[mikey2much]

I got trolled this last week

I am afraid that I lost two 'H's this week. The only two that I had. It seems that my story 'Glory Hole Blues' set some nut off and he thought that he should hit back at me for spreading unsafe sex stories.
He sent me a comment, in which he asked me if it was based on a true event. He then went on to tell me that glory holes are unsafe.

The way Literotica ranks it stories makes us all sitting ducks for anybody who wants to hit us. I try to tell myself that I don't care, but I do.

I have always thought that "I don't care" is the battle cry of losers.

Darkside of the moon, told me that he always turns off his votes for a few minutes to take away any reasons for caring about the score. Myself, I like to be able to see how people are taking my stories.

mikey

 

[Boxlicker101]

So maybe the trick is to have one 4 vote if you have a story that is getting all 5-votes. That way you only lose 1 point instead of 4 points.

That might deter some trolls. However, if the story ranks at the top of some category, a troll will come along and shoot it down anyhow. If a story has ten votes, and nine of them are "5" and one is a "4", it will stand at 4.90, good enough to be in first place in Anal, LW, and probably some others. That would be enough to attract trolls and their one-bombs.