Trolling?

[Panty Wrangler]

I get the concept as it relates to comments or discussions in general but not so much with 1* bombs. I’ve seen it mentioned that someone can troll you and pull down your story score but I’m a little fuzzy on how they could significantly drag it down.

If I’ve got 100 reviews with enough 4* and 5* that my score is 4.xx and one asshole comes along who decides he wants to change that in some significant way the most he can do is give me a single 1*, which might pull it down or might not depending on rounding and just how many *s the story has accumulated.

Is the concept here that our hypothetical asshole is going to go out and create some number of different accounts just so they can put down multiple 1* ratings?

Just curious how this works since to my naive brain it seems like an awful lot of work on their part just to piss on something.

What am I missing?

 

[KeithD]

It takes eight 5s to bring one 1 back to the 4.5 Hot rating.

 

[LupusDei]

Does it need an account to vote?

If not, then it's very very easy to vote by scripts a whole lot of times. Even if account is required, it's not that hard to create an army using free email providers (etc, if needed). (Such can then be handily reused.) Sure, those votes then should be identified as fraudulent and removed in a sweep, but in meantime the score would be damaged.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Just curious how this works since to my naive brain it seems like an awful lot of work on their part just to piss on something.

What am I missing?

Do some simple maths and you can see the effect of one-bombs. But don't come and talk about it here - the site runs regular sweeps to remove spurious votes, and any speculation how it might work undercuts the effectiveness of the algorithm.

Suffice to say, if a story is being attacked, wait for the next contest, and the more frequent sweeps that go on then will pull out the clutter.

 

[Panty Wrangler]

Thanks,

I don't think it's happened to me, and I suspect whatever the site does to scan would fix it eventually. I'll certainly not loose sleep over it.

I'll speculate no further about it.

Thanks

 

[lovecraft68]

Does it need an account to vote?

If not, then it's very very easy to vote by scripts a whole lot of times. Even if account is required, it's not that hard to create an army using free email providers (etc, if needed). (Such can then be handily reused.) Sure, those votes then should be identified as fraudulent and removed in a sweep, but in meantime the score would be damaged.

When multiple bombs have been placed on a story there sweep at times cuts too deep and will remove some legit votes along with it, so even with the bombs gone, some damage has been done.

The advanced trolls know this.

 

[lovecraft68]

Do some simple maths and you can see the effect of one-bombs. But don't come and talk about it here - the site runs regular sweeps to remove spurious votes, and any speculation how it might work undercuts the effectiveness of the algorithm.

Suffice to say, if a story is being attacked, wait for the next contest, and the more frequent sweeps that go on then will pull out the clutter.

Its been talked about incessantly here for years, stop acting like you know everything.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

Do some simple maths and you can see the effect of one-bombs. But don't come and talk about it here - the site runs regular sweeps to remove spurious votes, and any speculation how it might work undercuts the effectiveness of the algorithm.

Suffice to say, if a story is being attacked, wait for the next contest, and the more frequent sweeps that go on then will pull out the clutter.

This.

If you think you have been one-bombed, you can always report the story and ask for a personal sweep.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Please don't give anyone an idea of how to reduce a score out of spite.

 

[GinnyPPC]

Please don't give anyone an idea of how to reduce a score out of spite.

My secret recipe to lower someone's score:

Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg, and owlet's wing,—
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

But for sure, make sure the eye of newt is fresh. If it's sat around too long, it won't work right.

 

[ManitowocMike]

My secret recipe to lower someone's score:

Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg, and owlet's wing,—
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

But for sure, make sure the eye of newt is fresh. If it's sat around too long, it won't work right.

Eric Idle (Peasant): “Well, she turned me into a newt!
Terry Jones (Sir Bedevere): A newt?”
Eric Idle (Peasant): “… I got better.”

On the old system you had to have an account to vote, I'm not sure now. I know almost nothing about computers but it would be easy to write a sub routine that flags accounts that are only used to register sub-median scores so they could be swept. Mike could even do it-- once someone shows him how to turn the laptop on...

 

[KeithD]

I get the concept as it relates to comments or discussions in general but not so much with 1* bombs. I’ve seen it mentioned that someone can troll you and pull down your story score but I’m a little fuzzy on how they could significantly drag it down.

Apparently folks have found ways to be able to drop a massive number of votes in a short period of time. Doesn't have to be a 1 bomb. 2s will do. And in a contest here 3s will do. And it, indeed, is happening here at Literotica.

I've had a zapper dropping up to 40 votes within an hour on my newly posted stories since last November, to the extent that I turn voting off--not because I need high scores but because readers don't generally read anything in the 2 and 3 level here, and choking off my readership and hopefully forcing me to leave is the obvious goal of my set of trolls here.

My current April Fools Day contest story in my sr71plt name is a good example of this. I won the Valentine's Day Contest, am not eligible to place in this contest, but entered a story anyway just to be involved. Regardless, within an hour on the second day it was posted, the story then having a 4.86 rating with 12 votes, was zapped down to a 2.64, with 32 additional votes in just that hour. It's sitting at 3.1 today. The final sweep will, if what's happened before is an indication, bring it above Hot. But, in the meantime, it sits at a level that discourages readers from opening it and my own set of Literotica trolls can hope I'll just give up and leave.

I see no reason not to point out the reality here. It doesn't stop me from posting at least one story a week. One of my set of trolls will likely be along shortly to say I'm just whining--when I'm just giving an "it is what it is" response to the thread question posed.

LATER: I just now saw that this is an old thread that's been pulled up by someone. That's OK, it still currently applies.

 

[ElectricBlue]

On the old system you had to have an account to vote, I'm not sure now. I know almost nothing about computers but it would be easy to write a sub routine that flags accounts that are only used to register sub-median scores so they could be swept. Mike could even do it-- once someone shows him how to turn the laptop on...

Not true. Anyone can vote, not just account holders.