Too Much?

[StolenTurtle]

I have an ongoing story that will soon involve physical, emotional and sexual abuse along with a murder in the story line.

Is this too over the top for Literotica?

I read the guidelines and I couldn't find anything on these topics, so should I assume it's okay?

I've not read a story on this site that involved a murder, but of course that's not to say that they are not out there. I wonder if too much graphic violence would result in my story getting rejected.

Any experiences or ideas out there?

Thanks in advance!

-StolenTurtle

 

[Guest]

I have an ongoing story that will soon involve physical, emotional and sexual abuse along with a murder in the story line.

Is this too over the top for Literotica?

I read the guidelines and I couldn't find anything on these topics, so should I assume it's okay?

I've not read a story on this site that involved a murder, but of course that's not to say that they are not out there. I wonder if too much graphic violence would result in my story getting rejected.

Any experiences or ideas out there?

Thanks in advance!

-StolenTurtle

Check out my series, Saint's Quest. A Sadistic Serial Killer stalks girls, keeping them for a month to play with in his little under ground cell before killing them and dumping them in abandoned farm houses. I've also got Red Ribbons In Her Hair, a sadistic serial rapist turns killer and falls in love with one of his victims.

It all depends upon how you write the killing and the sadistic stuff. If I can be of any help, give me a shout. Good luck!

 

[sr71plt]

I have an ongoing story that will soon involve physical, emotional and sexual abuse along with a murder in the story line.

Is this too over the top for Literotica?

I read the guidelines and I couldn't find anything on these topics, so should I assume it's okay?

I've not read a story on this site that involved a murder, but of course that's not to say that they are not out there. I wonder if too much graphic violence would result in my story getting rejected.

Any experiences or ideas out there?

Thanks in advance!

-StolenTurtle

If either the abuse or the murder are graphically described "on camera," you might have trouble. If not, it may fly OK. I've got a murder mystery novel here with something like four or five murders in it, and they weren't pleasant ways to go, but I either came in after the murder or pulled away while it was happening--and they went through without question.

 

[StolenTurtle]

Check out my series, Saint's Quest. A Sadistic Serial Killer stalks girls, keeping them for a month to play with in his little under ground cell before killing them and dumping them in abandoned farm houses. I've also got Red Ribbons In Her Hair, a sadistic serial rapist turns killer and falls in love with one of his victims.

It all depends upon how you write the killing and the sadistic stuff. If I can be of any help, give me a shout. Good luck!

Thanks Danielle. Just from reading your descriptions I feel MUCH better about my story. Good, God woman.

I can't believe I was worried about one little murder and here you have serial killers out there.

Thanks for the advice!

Be well.

-StolenTurtle

 

[Darkniciad]

It's hard to say where the line is. One thing you'll certainly want to be careful of is casting any sort of sexual violence in a light that could be considered even remotely positive.

Beyond that, you have to ask yourself - is there a reason for the scene to have all the graphic detail? Do you need to delve into the pain to illustrate something important to the larger story?

Here's a scene from Ebon Genesis that passed muster without a hitch. It's fairly dark and disturbing. I was going through a comma crazy phase at this point, so try to ignore that *laugh*

"Mother!" Tharsas heard from behind him, and he spun on Lavina, who stared wide-eyed into the room.

Tharsas erupted in a growling scream, and charged toward his hated half-sister. She screamed in terror – seeing his twisted expression, and blackened hand – and tried to back away, but tripped over her own feet.

As she tried to scramble away, Tharsas leapt upon her, screaming in rage and pain, as the magic of her ring ripped through him. As he had with Peronelle, he ignored the pain, and tore the ring from Lavina's finger.

The smoke, stinking of burnt flesh and hair, hung heavily in the room, mixed with the faintly sweet smell of ozone, caused by all the electricity that had been unleashed. Lavina stared in mute terror at her brother's ravaged face, unable to even think – let alone move, or scream.

"How many times have you demanded I eat you – devour you? I will obey those commands one last time," Tharsas croaked.

Gritting his teeth against the pain, Tharsas formed the gestures of a spell with his horribly burned hands. He forced the words past his dry, smoke stung throat, and the magic came into being.

Lavina began to convulse beneath him, as his magic sucked her life from her, and transferred it to him. His blackened flesh turned pink, wounds sealed, and he felt his strength returning, as he sucked his hated sister dry.

When the spell's magic faded away, Tharsas was sitting upon a dry husk, which was crumbling beneath his weight. He heard the sound of terrified screaming coming from behind him.

Peronelle screamed, "What have you done? My darling! What have you done to my darling Lavina?"

"I have taken her, as she has taken me all these years," Tharsas replied, and laughed as he stood, turning to face her.

Peronelle started to edge away from him, but the magic of the cage forced her back to its center almost immediately.

Restored to full vitality by the life he had drained from Lavina, Tharsas walked toward his stepmother – still laughing – and staring hard at her. He stopped before her cage, and spoke the words of a spell.

As he completed the casting, he banished the magical cage around Peronelle with a thought. The huge, disembodied hand he had conjured scooped her up, and slammed her against the unyielding stone wall.

Peronelle screamed in pain as her head cracked against the wall, then gasped and screamed again, as the hand continued to apply pressure.

Tharsas tilted his head, and his lip twitched in a half smile, as he listened to Peronelle's scream trail off into a wheeze, the air being pushed from her lungs. He chuckled as he heard the cracks of her ribs breaking, and burst into gales of laughter as he heard the louder cracks of her other bones snapping, and her skull bursting.

Waving his hand in a flourish, Tharsas banished the magic. His stepmother's corpse collapsed into a broken, twisted heap on the floor, at the foot of the wall.

"You are avenged, Father," Tharsas whispered, as he stared at the pulped remains of Peronelle.

The scene is important to illustrate just how far the (until this point) tragic and sympathetic Tharsas falls into madness and sadism.

Home by the Sea is another of mine that is jam-packed full of darkness ( and in desperate need of a re-edit )

Might give you an idea of where the boundaries lie.

 

[StolenTurtle]

If either the abuse or the murder are graphically described "on camera," you might have trouble. If not, it may fly OK. I've got a murder mystery novel here with something like four or five murders in it, and they weren't pleasant ways to go, but I either came in after the murder or pulled away while it was happening--and they went through without question.

The murder in my story happens at knife point in a parking lot. I tried to leave out as much graphic detail of the act as I could, but I still have to construe what is happening to the character in no uncertain terms. I don't think it's as gory as a Stephen King novel, but I did have reservations about Literotica's violence threshold.

I think DanielleKitten has softened my fears, though. If she can do a serial rapist/killer series I should be fine.

Thanks!

-StolenTurtle

 

[sr71plt]

The murder in my story happens at knife point in a parking lot. I tried to leave out as much graphic detail of the act as I could, but I still have to construe what is happening to the character in no uncertain terms. I don't think it's as gory as a Stephen King novel, but I did have reservations about Literotica's violence threshold.

I think DanielleKitten has softened my fears, though. If she can do a serial rapist/killer series I should be fine.

Thanks!

-StolenTurtle

Yeah, what DK describes bogles my mind, so I've probably been too conservative in my approach. If I were you (and since she offered) I'd run the scene by her for her take on how it flies.

 

[StolenTurtle]

It's hard to say where the line is. One thing you'll certainly want to be careful of is casting any sort of sexual violence in a light that could be considered even remotely positive.

Beyond that, you have to ask yourself - is there a reason for the scene to have all the graphic detail? Do you need to delve into the pain to illustrate something important to the larger story?

Here's a scene from Ebon Genesis that passed muster without a hitch. It's fairly dark and disturbing. I was going through a comma crazy phase at this point, so try to ignore that *laugh*



The scene is important to illustrate just how far the (until this point) tragic and sympathetic Tharsas falls into madness and sadism.

Home by the Sea is another of mine that is jam-packed full of darkness ( and in desperate need of a re-edit )

Might give you an idea of where the boundaries lie.

I agree. Great description.

Yes, the entire rape scene is CRITICAL to the emotional duress under which one of my main characters succumbs. It helps to explain her withdrawal from love and her lack of trust in men in general. The scene was not placed in the story for the arousal factor, but for character development.

I submitted the story three days ago and I hope that the reviewers see that scene as such.

The murder scene has its own entire chapter in the series. I go into much detail about the victim, some of her past, present and her hopes for the future. I'm hoping that the surrounding story will help the reviewers and readers understand the importance of the scene.

Thanks for all the great advice everyone!

-StolenTurtle

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Here are two examples of mine. The first from a novel in progress -

Concentrating as he was, Carlos did not hear the soft whisper of the footsteps on the dirt as a dark figure entered his tent. When he did, it was too late. Carlos started to say something just as the blade of the machete struck the side of his neck, nearly decapitating him. His body gave a single spasmodic twitch then slumped over the table and did not move again.

The second is from a story, Delicious, posted her on Lit -

I sunk my teeth into his cock, snipping it off at the root. I spit his cock out then dove back down to lap the blood that spewed from the wound. Robert tried to scream but there was no sound. He body became first rigid with the pain and shock then he slid into unconsciousness.

I lapped all the blood I could then began sucking furiously on the stump. Robert's blood filled my mouth again and again. Each beat of his dying heart pumped the blood that ran down my throat. I could feel the power of it, invigorating me, renewing my life with the death-blood of another.

You can really get away with almost anything as long as there is no sexual gratification involved in the context.

JJ

 

[sr71plt]

You can really get away with almost anything as long as there is no sexual gratification involved in the context.

Oh, nuts. I was about to consider posting my vampire novel here. And then you went and said there shouldn't be any sexual gratification in the taking/snuffing out.

 

[Guest]

Oh, nuts. I was about to consider posting my vampire novel here. And then you went and said there shouldn't be any sexual gratification in the taking/snuffing out.

Post it anyway. I love a good vampire novel...

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Oh, nuts. I was about to consider posting my vampire novel here. And then you went and said there shouldn't be any sexual gratification in the taking/snuffing out.

It's my understanding that the site owners define "snuff" as murder with a sexual content. Snuff is not allowed. Simple murder is. Go figure.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Post it anyway. I love a good vampire novel...

Actually, if I recall Bram Stoker's Dracula correctly, some of the scenes in that novel are highly sexual in nature. Even the hundreds of Vampire films from the 60's were sexual in nature - The beautiful young woman stalked by the vampire up to the point where he bites their neck, while their overly endowed chests are heaving in extacy.

It's a very confusing line, in my opinion.

 

[StolenTurtle]

It's my understanding that the site owners define "snuff" as murder with a sexual content. Snuff is not allowed. Simple murder is. Go figure.

Jenny,

Doesn't the passage you just posted for your title "Delicious" fall under this category?

-StolenTurtle

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Jenny,

Doesn't the passage you just posted for your title "Delicious" fall under this category?

-StolenTurtle

No. This is a vampire (non-human) feeding. There is a sex scene that immediatly preceeds this, but the murder itself is boarder line. If you read the story, the victim believes he is going to receive a blow job, but it turns out to be something different.

Non-human and Erotic Horror are the two catagories that seem to have a lot more freedom in this area.

By the way, a lot of guys read that story with the legs crossed

 

[sr71plt]

Post it anyway. I love a good vampire novel...

Thanks, but no can do. Eroticdreamspublishing has bought it now just like that, and I exclusive anything that sells before it is posted. Have no idea when they'll run it or as complete or serialized. (I go under the name "habu" everywhere but here.)

Actually, if I recall Bram Stoker's Dracula correctly, some of the scenes in that novel are highly sexual in nature.

Right. I can't imagine why people ever were blind to the sexual nature of the vampire story--and now, after Anne Rice has gotten hold of it, how could you miss?

 

[sr71plt]

Post it anyway. I love a good vampire novel...

The publisher I'd sold this GM vampire novel to just went out of business--before publishing the book, so, in case you are interested, it's started run here on lit: "Vampire LaCour's 2nd Coming." In keeping with what this thread is discussing, the body count in this one gets pretty high--so be forewarned.