To Kill the King.

[Chobham]

History has shown time and time again that if you're out to kill the king you'd better make damn sure he's dead.

In that regard I think the democrats have made a serious miscalculation. (Does anyone dispute that they aren't trying to put a stake through Trump's heart?) Their problem is almost Shakespearean in nature. "To indict or not to indict, that is the question."

If they indict the underlying affidavit becomes public. And if they don't have an iron clad affidavit and an irrefutable chain of evidence they will ignite a firestorm. If they don't indict then there will also be a firestorm. They have indeed painted themselves into a corner. For those of you that have taken Game Theory courses and bother to map the decision tree out, they have less than a 50% chance of prevailing, actually more on the order of 25%.

In the event they prevail, and there is that possibility, they will attempt to continue on the same path. But what happens if they don't?

It's fairly certain that they are going to lose the House this fall. But they'll still have the Administrative branch and all of it's tools to continue the effort, and that most likely means they'll double down. Given that they've virtually declared nearly half of the population "Enemies of the State" it is certain that others not in their definition will be swept up. Governments are not surgeons, they are clumsy and ham fisted.

I know that many of you here are quite celebratory over the recent turn of events. Fine, that is your choice. But I would caution you to forget your partisan leanings and consider that ALL actions have consequences, often not foreseen.

If you're going to kill the king you better make damn sure he's dead.

 

[ll74]

I'll vote against any race he runs and advise others to do the same. He might win, he might not.

I think he's a piece of shit..maybe hes a king piece of shit

 

[LukSkyFokker]

The drunk looks at 45 as a king.

What percentage of Trumplitards would blow numbers at any given time?

 

[KeithD]

They have several iron-clad cases. Trump continually feeds them proof of that. We all know it. The board Trumpettes know it too. But they'll just continue their nonsense. It's getting so silly that it's becoming fun to watch both Trump and his Trumpettes spin in the wind. it would be great at this point that he just keep taking slicing from all sides and the board Trumpettes keep looking silly through the November elections.

 

[Chobham]

They have several iron-clad cases. Trump continually feeds them proof of that. We all know it. The board Trumpettes know it too. But they'll just continue their nonsense. It's getting so silly that it's becoming fun to watch both Trump and his Trumpettes spin in the wind. it would be great at this point that he just keep taking slicing from all sides and the board Trumpettes keep looking silly through the November elections.

You don't know shit. You believe, but you don't KNOW.

 

[phrodeau]

Trump has been given every benefit of the doubt, and due process all the way.

Your assassination rhetoric is really uncalled for and dangerous. What country do you think this is?

 

[Chobham]

Trump has been given every benefit of the doubt, and due process all the way.

Your assassination rhetoric is really uncalled for and dangerous. What country do you think this is?

Assassination? You pulled that one out of your ass, right?

The democrats goal is political assassination, not dictionary literal. Of course that is the goal in any political contest, eliminate your opponent. What is at issue is how far you'll go to achieve those ends and what are the possible consequences of your actions?

American politics is rife with such attempted "assassinations" and the consequences thereof. Take a look at the presidential campaigns of 1824, the consequences of which became manifest in 1828. Or the campaigns of 1860.

Further, there is nothing new in the weaponization of the US justice system. What is new is the severity and blatancy. Previous efforts were subtle, this is blunt force.

 

[KeithD]

I'm guessing no one pointed out to you what a really, really rotten day Trump World had today--and all because of their own stupidity. Let's see how badly they can shot themselves in the keister tomorrow. And a really fun thing about that is there's not a damn thing you board Trumpettes can do to cover that up with your lies and attempts at distraction.

 

[iso36]

The good news is that only about half of voting aged americans vote, so most of the country simply doesnt care about the sliver that are armchair political quarterbacks.

 

[EmptyTank]

Trump has been given every benefit of the doubt, and due process all the way.

Your assassination rhetoric is really uncalled for and dangerous. What country do you think this is?

He has yet to get the full Clinton.

 

[zipman]

History has shown time and time again that if you're out to kill the king you'd better make damn sure he's dead.

In that regard I think the democrats have made a serious miscalculation. (Does anyone dispute that they aren't trying to put a stake through Trump's heart?) Their problem is almost Shakespearean in nature. "To indict or not to indict, that is the question."

If they indict the underlying affidavit becomes public. And if they don't have an iron clad affidavit and an irrefutable chain of evidence they will ignite a firestorm. If they don't indict then there will also be a firestorm. They have indeed painted themselves into a corner. For those of you that have taken Game Theory courses and bother to map the decision tree out, they have less than a 50% chance of prevailing, actually more on the order of 25%.

In the event they prevail, and there is that possibility, they will attempt to continue on the same path. But what happens if they don't?

It's fairly certain that they are going to lose the House this fall. But they'll still have the Administrative branch and all of it's tools to continue the effort, and that most likely means they'll double down. Given that they've virtually declared nearly half of the population "Enemies of the State" it is certain that others not in their definition will be swept up. Governments are not surgeons, they are clumsy and ham fisted.

I know that many of you here are quite celebratory over the recent turn of events. Fine, that is your choice. But I would caution you to forget your partisan leanings and consider that ALL actions have consequences, often not foreseen.

If you're going to kill the king you better make damn sure he's dead.

Wow, that's a lot of stupid in one post. First off, you start with a horribly flawed premise, because Trump is not a king, just a former president.

Couple that with the fact that he is the most corrupt president we have ever had and it becomes clear that democrats aren't trying to assassinate him (either literally or figuratively), just hold him accountable for the illegal actions he has done.

In fact, maybe if you have the hysteria and hyperbole a break, you would see that. Actually, you might see a lot of things if you weren't so desperately clinging to your right wing philosophies which have been proven wrong and the lies you tell yourself to feel better.

You have to be blind to not see that Trump and Republicans want a conservative authoritarian dictatorship which is why they are trying to tear down American institutions. You're not the party of ideas, you're the party of lies and conspiracy theories.

You have become an enemy to this country and our constitution. But I understand that it's painful for you to admit that you and everything you believed in were wrong. That's why you're doubling down on stupidity like this.

In the end, it doesn't matter. You're irrelevant.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

History has shown time and time again that if you're out to kill the king you'd better make damn sure he's dead.

For those of you that have taken Game Theory courses and bother to map the decision tree out, they have less than a 50% chance of prevailing, actually more on the order of 25%.

Your analysis is shit. Sleep it off.

 

[Rightguide]

History has shown time and time again that if you're out to kill the king you'd better make damn sure he's dead.

In that regard I think the democrats have made a serious miscalculation. (Does anyone dispute that they aren't trying to put a stake through Trump's heart?) Their problem is almost Shakespearean in nature. "To indict or not to indict, that is the question."

If they indict the underlying affidavit becomes public. And if they don't have an iron clad affidavit and an irrefutable chain of evidence they will ignite a firestorm. If they don't indict then there will also be a firestorm. They have indeed painted themselves into a corner. For those of you that have taken Game Theory courses and bother to map the decision tree out, they have less than a 50% chance of prevailing, actually more on the order of 25%.

In the event they prevail, and there is that possibility, they will attempt to continue on the same path. But what happens if they don't?

It's fairly certain that they are going to lose the House this fall. But they'll still have the Administrative branch and all of it's tools to continue the effort, and that most likely means they'll double down. Given that they've virtually declared nearly half of the population "Enemies of the State" it is certain that others not in their definition will be swept up. Governments are not surgeons, they are clumsy and ham fisted.

I know that many of you here are quite celebratory over the recent turn of events. Fine, that is your choice. But I would caution you to forget your partisan leanings and consider that ALL actions have consequences, often not foreseen.

If you're going to kill the king you better make damn sure he's dead.

Here's a possible example of their detailed but failed efforts to do so:

Jan 6 Pipe Bomber’s Mechanical Timer Detonates Fedsurrection Lie​

August 15, 2022 (22h ago)

It’s been fully 19 months since the events of January 6, and the FBI’s explanation for the January 6 pipe bombs is in fundamental conflict with a growing body of widely available facts. Revolver has chronicled the chasm between the official story and the mounting inconsistencies here, here and here.

But five facts about the pipe bombs are particularly strange, and their significance has never been fully explicated or connected. We will attempt to do so here.

Those five facts are:

1. The pipe bombs — according to the Capitol Police Chief Stephen Sund and Inspector General — were planted as a “diversion” to distract law enforcement shortly before 1 p.m., when the breach of the Capitol’s perimeter was just getting started. According to the official timeline, the breach started just one minute after Capitol Police were informed about the pipe bombs just two to three city blocks away.
2. The pipe bomber used an old-fashioned mechanical timer with a one hour max time setting, but planted the bombs at roughly 8 p.m. the night before January 6 — 17 hours before they were found.
3. The pipe bombs were constructed with no remote detonation ability, meaning their purpose as a diversion relied solely on the “luck” of being found at the right time, between noon and 1 p.m., to match the one-hour timer appearing to target the 1 p.m. Congressional certification vote.
4. The first pipe bomb was found at 12:40 p.m., with 20 minutes left on the timer, perfectly matching the exact timing needed both to “divert” police as the breach began at 12:50 p.m., and to convince police the bomb was timed to the 1 p.m. Congressional vote.
5. The timer didn’t just have 20 minutes left. It was left stuck on the 20 minute dial.

Much more here: https://www.revolver.news/2022/08/jan-6-pipe-bombers-mechanical-timer-detonates-fedsurrection-lie/

 

[Rightguide]

Wow, that's a lot of stupid in one post. First off, you start with a horribly flawed premise, because Trump is not a king, just a former president.

Couple that with the fact that he is the most corrupt president we have ever had and it becomes clear that democrats aren't trying to assassinate him (either literally or figuratively), just hold him accountable for the illegal actions he has done.

Except you can't produce credible evidence of any such presidential corruption.

 

[ll74]

Lmao

We know this because of a simple Google Earth walkthrough

True detectives! Case closed!

 

[ll74]

Here's a possible example of their detailed but failed efforts to do so:

Jan 6 Pipe Bomber’s Mechanical Timer Detonates Fedsurrection Lie​

August 15, 2022 (22h ago)

It’s been fully 19 months since the events of January 6, and the FBI’s explanation for the January 6 pipe bombs is in fundamental conflict with a growing body of widely available facts. Revolver has chronicled the chasm between the official story and the mounting inconsistencies here, here and here.

But five facts about the pipe bombs are particularly strange, and their significance has never been fully explicated or connected. We will attempt to do so here.

Those five facts are:

1. The pipe bombs — according to the Capitol Police Chief Stephen Sund and Inspector General — were planted as a “diversion” to distract law enforcement shortly before 1 p.m., when the breach of the Capitol’s perimeter was just getting started. According to the official timeline, the breach started just one minute after Capitol Police were informed about the pipe bombs just two to three city blocks away.
2. The pipe bomber used an old-fashioned mechanical timer with a one hour max time setting, but planted the bombs at roughly 8 p.m. the night before January 6 — 17 hours before they were found.
3. The pipe bombs were constructed with no remote detonation ability, meaning their purpose as a diversion relied solely on the “luck” of being found at the right time, between noon and 1 p.m., to match the one-hour timer appearing to target the 1 p.m. Congressional certification vote.
4. The first pipe bomb was found at 12:40 p.m., with 20 minutes left on the timer, perfectly matching the exact timing needed both to “divert” police as the breach began at 12:50 p.m., and to convince police the bomb was timed to the 1 p.m. Congressional vote.
5. The timer didn’t just have 20 minutes left. It was left stuck on the 20 minute dial.

Much more here: https://www.revolver.news/2022/08/jan-6-pipe-bombers-mechanical-timer-detonates-fedsurrection-lie/

Good non sequitur though

 

[JohnnySavage]

The King has been dead 45 years. Longer than he was alive.

 

[Chobham]

Wow, that's a lot of stupid in one post. First off, you start with a horribly flawed premise, because Trump is not a king, just a former president.

Couple that with the fact that he is the most corrupt president we have ever had and it becomes clear that democrats aren't trying to assassinate him (either literally or figuratively), just hold him accountable for the illegal actions he has done.

In fact, maybe if you have the hysteria and hyperbole a break, you would see that. Actually, you might see a lot of things if you weren't so desperately clinging to your right wing philosophies which have been proven wrong and the lies you tell yourself to feel better.

You have to be blind to not see that Trump and Republicans want a conservative authoritarian dictatorship which is why they are trying to tear down American institutions. You're not the party of ideas, you're the party of lies and conspiracy theories.

You have become an enemy to this country and our constitution. But I understand that it's painful for you to admit that you and everything you believed in were wrong. That's why you're doubling down on stupidity like this.

In the end, it doesn't matter. You're irrelevant.

That seems to be the case according to the current administration. Me and tens of millions of others. <shrug>

 

[phrodeau]

Good non sequitur though

Not really a good one. It starts with a lie, then drives that lie all over town.
Nobody testified that the bombs were a diversion. It’s put in quotes, but the word wasn’t actually used. Witnesses only said that they had suspicions.

 

[HisArpy]

That seems to be the case according to the current administration. Me and tens of millions of others. <shrug>

You have to forgive him, he don't know what no allegory is.

 

[icanhelp1]

Assassination? You pulled that one out of your ass, right?

The democrats goal is political assassination, not dictionary literal. Of course that is the goal in any political contest, eliminate your opponent. What is at issue is how far you'll go to achieve those ends and what are the possible consequences of your actions?

American politics is rife with such attempted "assassinations" and the consequences thereof. Take a look at the presidential campaigns of 1824, the consequences of which became manifest in 1828. Or the campaigns of 1860.

Further, there is nothing new in the weaponization of the US justice system. What is new is the severity and blatancy. Previous efforts were subtle, this is blunt force.

With the attempted assassination of a supreme court justice, the political climate that exist and should Trump get a positive push forward legally and politically I would not leave assassination out of the realm of possibility. Remember the Kennedys, Reagan.

 

[ll74]

With the attempted assassination of a supreme court justice, the political climate that exist and should Trump get a positive push forward legally and politically I would not leave assassination out of the realm of possibility. Remember the Kennedys, Reagan.

Gabby Giffords even

But yah....of course you'd go there.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

History has shown time and time again that if you're out to kill the king you'd better make damn sure he's dead.

In that regard I think the democrats have made a serious miscalculation. (Does anyone dispute that they aren't trying to put a stake through Trump's heart?) Their problem is almost Shakespearean in nature. "To indict or not to indict, that is the question."

If they indict the underlying affidavit becomes public. And if they don't have an iron clad affidavit and an irrefutable chain of evidence they will ignite a firestorm. If they don't indict then there will also be a firestorm. They have indeed painted themselves into a corner. For those of you that have taken Game Theory courses and bother to map the decision tree out, they have less than a 50% chance of prevailing, actually more on the order of 25%.

In the event they prevail, and there is that possibility, they will attempt to continue on the same path. But what happens if they don't?

It's fairly certain that they are going to lose the House this fall. But they'll still have the Administrative branch and all of it's tools to continue the effort, and that most likely means they'll double down. Given that they've virtually declared nearly half of the population "Enemies of the State" it is certain that others not in their definition will be swept up. Governments are not surgeons, they are clumsy and ham fisted.

I know that many of you here are quite celebratory over the recent turn of events. Fine, that is your choice. But I would caution you to forget your partisan leanings and consider that ALL actions have consequences, often not foreseen.

If you're going to kill the king you better make damn sure he's dead.

He's not a king, he's a queen, A Big Fat Drama Queen

 

[LukSkyFokker]

He's not a king, he's a queen, A Big Fat Drama Queen

But enough about vetteman.

 

[icanhelp1]

Gabby Giffords even

But yah....of course you'd go there.

I really liked Gabby, I was tremendously saddened by that event. Any violence is unacceptable but with the political climate being white hot I half expect something tragic pretty much every day.