Tis the season: right-wing slime thread

[Pure]

mr. ailes, chairman of Fox news

And it is true that Barack Obama is on the move. I don't know if it's true that President Bush called Musharraf and said, 'Why can't we catch this guy?'

all contributions welcome. shall we have a pool: from now till Nov election day, how many times with a right wing commentator or candidate make the link Obama=Osama?

1) 0-99
2 ) 100-199
3) 200-299
4) 300-499
5) 500+

 

[elsol]

With a middle name of Hussein?

Come on man... that's like asking how many times a drug addict will say yes to free dope.

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

The really vicious and effective sliming will come from the Hillary camp. We've already seen some of that, haven't we?

 

[elsol]

The really vicious and effective sliming will come from the Hillary camp. We've already seen some of that, haven't we?

Oh hell no! Imagine Barack winning the nomination. My god, I would love to get that just to see how far the far right would go.

Although in that vein, Hillary getting nod might actually be more fun.

Edited to Add: Or the female faggot Edwards.

 

[Pure]

Published: March 05, 2007 11:00 AM ET

NEW YORK Ann Coulter, fresh from implying that John Edwards is a "faggot," now has a statement on her Web site saying Edwards campaign manager David Bonior "is fronting for Arab terrorists."

//Coulter made the homophobic slur about Edwards, a Democratic presidential candidate, during a Friday speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference.

Soon after, Bonior announced he was sending out a fund-raising letter seeking "Coulter Cash" to "show every would-be Republican mouthpiece that their bigoted attacks will not intimidate this campaign."

A copy of Bonior's letter was posted on Coulter's Web site, with this note underneath: "It's always good to divert Bonior from his principal pastime which is fronting for Arab terrorists." //

 

[Pure]

yes, if hillary runs,

we'll be hearing about H the dyke every day

 

[sophia jane]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/02/22/fox-news-repeated-attemp_n_41841.html

A little video about Fox "news" attacks on Obama.

 

[shereads]

mr. ailes, chairman of Fox news

And it is true that Barack Obama is on the move. I don't know if it's true that President Bush called Musharraf and said, 'Why can't we catch this guy?'

all contributions welcome. shall we have a pool: from now till Nov election day, how many times with a right wing commentator or candidate make the link Obama=Osama?

1) 0-99
2 ) 100-199
3) 200-299
4) 300-499
5) 500+

Oh, man. This is a tough call, Pure. On the one hand, I'd love to participte. On the other, it would mean paying rapt attention to Bill O'Reilly and his ilk.

Eww.

 

[shereads]

Does it have to be a wordplay on Osama-Obama? Or can we count veiled allegations that Obama is a closet jihadist because he once attended a Muslim school?

Dammit, why didn't he change his name before becoming famous?

Bob O. Bama.

Bubba Alabama

Bill O'Bama.

Those are all good, solid, beer-drinking, football-watching, non-threatening, domestically bred American names without a shred of controversy, with the possible exception of "Bubba." Depending on how the names polled, Bubba could have become Buddy before the first bumper stickers rolled off the presses.

 

[elsol]

Does it have to be a wordplay on Osama-Obama? Or can we count veiled allegations that Obama is a closet jihadist because he once attended a Muslim school?

Dammit, why didn't he change his name before becoming famous?

Bob O. Bama.

Bubba Alabama

Bill O'Bama.

Those are all good, solid, beer-drinking, football-watching, non-threatening, domestically bred American names without a shred of controversy, with the possible exception of "Bubba." Depending on how the names polled, Bubba could have become Buddy before the first bumper stickers rolled off the presses.

Braddock Huse Bobubba

But that's three names, and remember all serial killers and assassins have three names.

 

[rgraham666]

Damn it elsol. Stop giving Fox ideas.

 

[Boxlicker101]

mr. ailes, chairman of Fox news

And it is true that Barack Obama is on the move. I don't know if it's true that President Bush called Musharraf and said, 'Why can't we catch this guy?'

all contributions welcome. shall we have a pool: from now till Nov election day, how many times with a right wing commentator or candidate make the link Obama=Osama?

1) 0-99
2 ) 100-199
3) 200-299
4) 300-499
5) 500+

Personally, I think we will hear or read more left-wing types, like yourself, making the connection, such as you just did here.

 

[shereads]

Braddock Huse Bobubba

But that's three names, and remember all serial killers and assassins have three names.

Miss American contestants also have three names: Barbara Lynn Manson, Heather Anne Bundy...

Coincidence? I don't think so...



The ideal political name lends itself to a bumper sticker with no more than three syllables. This counts whether the bumper sticker is for a single candidate or a president/veep ticket. Clinton/Gore. Bush/Cheney. Bill Clinton. Three syllables.

Gore/Lieberman had too many syllables by one. They might have salvaged their candidacy if they had used Al and Joe, but no one listened until it was too late.

Barach Obama has one syllable too many, in addition to looking suspiciously foreign. They can't use just the last name because of the Obama-Osama problem. Depending on who else is on the ticket, he may have to go with a nickname, like the 'O' Man, or 'Bama.

 

[sophia jane]

Personally, I think we will hear or read more left-wing types, like yourself, making the connection, such as you just did here.

Pure wasn't making the connection; he was quoting the chairman of Fox news who made the connection last night.
(the upshot of those comments, tho, is that the fox news broadcast of the Nevada debates has been cancelled.)

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

Does it have to be a wordplay on Osama-Obama? Or can we count veiled allegations that Obama is a closet jihadist because he once attended a Muslim school?

Dammit, why didn't he change his name before becoming famous?

Bob O. Bama.

Bubba Alabama

Bill O'Bama.

Those are all good, solid, beer-drinking, football-watching, non-threatening, domestically bred American names without a shred of controversy, with the possible exception of "Bubba." Depending on how the names polled, Bubba could have become Buddy before the first bumper stickers rolled off the presses.

Fee-fi-fo-fam, banana-rama-Obama - Bar-ach.

 

[Huckleman2000]

The really vicious and effective sliming will come from the Hillary camp. We've already seen some of that, haven't we?

Excuse me? From the Hillary camp?

Surely, you must mean towards?

Hillary or Bill could go on 60 Minutes and claim Karl Rove is a card-carrying member of NAMBLA, and Ken Starr was his sponsor, and Richard Mellon Scaife bankrolls the whole organization, and I'd still consider her the more legitimate source.

 

[S-Des]

Excuse me? From the Hillary camp?

Surely, you must mean towards?

Hillary or Bill could go on 60 Minutes and claim Karl Rove is a card-carrying member of NAMBLA, and Ken Starr was his sponsor, and Richard Mellon Scaife bankrolls the whole organization, and I'd still consider her the more legitimate source.

No, she means from. Most insiders I listen to (Democrat and Republican) consider the Clinton machine to be the most vicious and effective when it comes to attacking their opponents (although Rove has set the bar very high). In the last two weeks, Obama was attacked publicly by them for not rebuking Geffen and a story about him not paying parking tickets from college was leaked to the press. It was theorized on one show that it was because the internal polling numbers were showing Obama pulling closer (the national polls this week have him far closer to Clinton than anyone expected...at least this early).

The Republicans might slime him if he makes it to the general election, but most of the negative stuff you hear until then will be coming from one place. It will be interesting because he's never been through a real fight before. How he handles it will definitely show what kind of candidate he'll make later.

 

[Huckleman2000]

No, she means from. Most insiders I listen to (Democrat and Republican) consider the Clinton machine to be the most vicious and effective when it comes to attacking their opponents (although Rove has set the bar very high). In the last two weeks, Obama was attacked publicly by them for not rebuking Geffen and a story about him not paying parking tickets from college was leaked to the press. It was theorized on one show that it was because the internal polling numbers were showing Obama pulling closer (the national polls this week have him far closer to Clinton than anyone expected...at least this early).

The Republicans might slime him if he makes it to the general election, but most of the negative stuff you hear until then will be coming from one place. It will be interesting because he's never been through a real fight before. How he handles it will definitely show what kind of candidate he'll make later.

I don't believe it, at least not totally.
Look at the "Obama at Madrassas" story - the Right pushed that story and said that the Clinton camp leaked it. Not only was it not true (factually), the Clinton camp didn't have anything to do with it! The Right news organ was trying to get a two-fer! NEITHER PART OF WHICH WAS TRUE! They slime Obama, and blame it on Clinton, and NONE OF IT IS TRUE, NEITHER THE SOURCE NOR THE CONTENT. THEY JUST MAKE SHIT UP!

We need to realize: FOX NEWS, RUSH LIMBAUGH, SEAN HANNITY, ETC. DO NOT REPORT FACTUAL NEWS! The mere fact that it's coming out of their mouth renders whatever they say as bullshit. They will take a tiny grain of truth, and explode it into the most outrageous accusations they can imagine.

 

[S-Des]

I don't believe it, at least not totally.
Look at the "Obama at Madrassas" story - the Right pushed that story and said that the Clinton camp leaked it. Not only was it not true (factually), the Clinton camp didn't have anything to do with it! The Right news organ was trying to get a two-fer! NEITHER PART OF WHICH WAS TRUE! They slime Obama, and blame it on Clinton, and NONE OF IT IS TRUE, NEITHER THE SOURCE NOR THE CONTENT. THEY JUST MAKE SHIT UP!

We need to realize: FOX NEWS, RUSH LIMBAUGH, SEAN HANNITY, ETC. DO NOT REPORT FACTUAL NEWS! The mere fact that it's coming out of their mouth renders whatever they say as bullshit. They will take a tiny grain of truth, and explode it into the most outrageous accusations they can imagine.

I love Gretta Van Sustern. She has the most interesting show of any when there's a legal situation. Her panel of experts is wonderful and crosses the lines of liberals/conservatives. She also allows them to talk, rather than shouting them down. But that's not where I get my info from anyway. Listen to Beyond The Beltway or the Bruce Dewmont show. Joe Scarborough or Chris Matthews. There are interesting sources on any of the shows if you watch them (I have to exclude Hannity & Colmes because they both just shout down guests who disagree). Even O'Reilly has interesting conversations with guests (it's when he's by himself that it gets scary).

You never know for sure where leaks come from so I can't prove I'm right about it, but if you doubt the Clinton's are the all-time champs of slime, go back over the things leaked about Paula Jones, Kathleen Willie, or any of the other women he was accused of impropriaties with. I've heard a lot of Democrats slam the Clintons (did you hear what Geffen said about them???), so to attribute it to Rush Limbaugh or the other right-wing clowns is just a straw man argument. The Republicans have no reason to attack Obama at this time...they want him to beat Hillary. They can attack him for his inexperience during the general election and not look slimey (and if it's McCain who wins, you can bet there will be less garbage than there was with Bush/Cheney/Rove). They're far more frightened of Hillary, both because she can win, and because her politics are terrifying to someone with a Conservative philosophy. Personally, I think they're making a mistake if they don't fear Obama. Up to now he's shown no weaknesses.

 

[Pure]

note to roxanne and s-des,

i realize the 'right' has a LONG memory and will be discussing Flowers and Blue Dresses with the grandkids as reasons to vote
Republican. but let's try to keep this thread current and relevant.

as for the ONLY current example about Obama, the one alleged to come from Hillary. as Huck pointed out, that's pretty much an obvious fabrication. OTOH, i believe Coulter likes to call Obama,
"B. Hussein Obama," a typical (for her and Rush) innuendo

so *even if* this thread were about sliming in general--which it isn't--you have no current cases from the Dems.

 

[Boxlicker101]

i realize the 'right' has a LONG memory and will be discussing Flowers and Blue Dresses with the grandkids as reasons to vote
Republican. but let's try to keep this thread current and relevant.

as for the ONLY current example about Obama, the one alleged to come from Hillary. as Huck pointed out, that's pretty much an obvious fabrication. OTOH, i believe Coulter likes to call Obama,
"B. Hussein Obama," a typical (for her and Rush) innuendo

so *even if* this thread were about sliming in general--which it isn't--you have no current cases from the Dems.

It is a common practice for political activists of all kinds to make fun of the names of those they consider their enemies. For instance, there is the Texas columnist who always refers to "President Shrub".

Incidentally, that actually is the man's name. His initial is "B"; his middle name is Hussein and his last name is spelled correctly.

 

[S-Des]

i realize the 'right' has a LONG memory and will be discussing Flowers and Blue Dresses with the grandkids as reasons to vote
Republican. but let's try to keep this thread current and relevant.

as for the ONLY current example about Obama, the one alleged to come from Hillary. as Huck pointed out, that's pretty much an obvious fabrication. OTOH, i believe Coulter likes to call Obama,
"B. Hussein Obama," a typical (for her and Rush) innuendo

so *even if* this thread were about sliming in general--which it isn't--you have no current cases from the Dems.

Huh??? I cited two examples of public attacks on Obama by the Clinton camp in the last two weeks, and you say there are none. These were both very public things and drew criticism from Democratic startegists. One was done as a direct attack from her campaign, the other was mysteriously "leaked" to a newspaper. This is the earliest that campaigns have ever started for a Presidential election. It's just going to get worse from here.

 

[Huckleman2000]

Huh??? I cited two examples of public attacks on Obama by the Clinton camp in the last two weeks, and you say there are none. These were both very public things and drew criticism from Democratic startegists. One was done as a direct attack from her campaign, the other was mysteriously "leaked" to a newspaper. This is the earliest that campaigns have ever started for a Presidential election. It's just going to get worse from here.

The Geffen thing was hardly an attack by Hillary. More like taking a flop to try and get a foul (sorry, b-ball tournament time...) - Geffen said some things about her at an Obama fundraiser that she took offense to, and her camp wanted him to apologize for it.

The parking-ticket thing is a pretty lame attack - the wingnuts will probably try to pin the 'mysterious' leak on Clinton's camp, just to reinforce their portrayal of her as such a calculating and fake bitch. I expect to see a lot of that sort of thing, using the same MO as that stupid 'madrassahs' story. Ask yourself - if she's so vicious and calculating, would she be wasting time with petty nonsense like paid parking tickets, especially when that just plays into her known negatives? Whatever you think of the woman, she's not stupid.

 

[S-Des]

The Geffen thing was hardly an attack by Hillary. More like taking a flop to try and get a foul (sorry, b-ball tournament time...) - Geffen said some things about her at an Obama fundraiser that she took offense to, and her camp wanted him to apologize for it.

The parking-ticket thing is a pretty lame attack - the wingnuts will probably try to pin the 'mysterious' leak on Clinton's camp, just to reinforce their portrayal of her as such a calculating and fake bitch. I expect to see a lot of that sort of thing, using the same MO as that stupid 'madrassahs' story. Ask yourself - if she's so vicious and calculating, would she be wasting time with petty nonsense like paid parking tickets, especially when that just plays into her known negatives? Whatever you think of the woman, she's not stupid.

The parking ticket thing is pathetic, but came out at the exact same time as the polls that showed him pulling into a dead heat with her. It was dug up by someone, so if not her then who? The Geffen thing was most definitely an attack (her people said Obama had to denounce Geffen or refuse his money, or it showed he wasn't the "clean" politician he portrayed himself to be). The democratic strategists I listened to thought it was pathetic on her behalf, as was the lame attempt to steal Obama's spotlight in Alabama (loved the accent). Whether she's stupid or not, she's making mistakes and it's making her look very foolish. If you want to believe she's so brilliant she's infallible, that's your choice. I don't think you'll find yourself in the majority.

 

[Huckleman2000]

[snip] If you want to believe she's so brilliant she's infallible, that's your choice. I don't think you'll find yourself in the majority.

I didn't say that - you did. Right here: "Most insiders I listen to (Democrat and Republican) consider the Clinton machine to be the most vicious and effective when it comes to attacking their opponents (although Rove has set the bar very high)."


My point was that the parking ticket thing was really pathetic, which (if you subscribed to the theory that the Clinton machine is effective) doesn't sound like the work of professionals. Rather, it sounds like Rove, who once bugged his own office so that he could 'discover' it and blame it on his opponent.