Timeline of Bush's service in the Air National Guard

[ruminator]

*July 1973 “Inner-City Poverty Program” is revealed to be “Sam’s Quick Stop” package store, and program is repeated beer runs.

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Timeline of Bush's service in the Air National Guard
Thursday, September 9, 2004
(09-09) 16:12 PDT (AP) --
Major events in President Bush's Vietnam-era military service with the Air National Guard:

* Jan. 19, 1968: Bush completes Air Force officer qualifications test in New Haven, Conn., while attending Yale University.

* Jan. 20, 1968. Bush passes test with minimum score of “At least one parent on social register.”

* July 14, 1968: Bush attends basic military training in San Antonio.

*Nov15, 1968. Bush selects flight school as advanced training option because of the “bitchin’ flight suits.”

* Nov. 26, 1968-Dec. 2, 1969: Bush attends undergraduate pilot training with the 3559th Student Squadron, Moody Air Force Base, Ga. He is trained to fly standard Air Force aircraft, including the T-31, T-37, and T-39.

*Jan 2, 1970. Training delayed due to “excessive nosebleeds, often occurring on Mondays.”

* Jan. 11, 1970: Bush is assigned flying duty as a pilot of F-102 fighter interceptors, 111th Squadron at Ellington.

*Jan 12, 1970. Ellington base commander reports Bush reported for duty at main gate at 2:00 a.m., repeatedly slurring word “Ellington.”

*Jan-Jun 1970. Bush continues flight training, and is eventually allowed to taxi to the end of the runway and back on his own.

*July 31, 1970. Bush told that upcoming physical will include drug screen of blood sample.

* Aug. 1, 1972: Memo from Killian states Bush is ordered suspended from flight status "due to failure to perform to USAF/TexANG standards and failure to meet annual physical examination (flight) as ordered. ... Officer has made no attempt to meet his training certification or flight physical." Killian requests formal inquiry into the suspension.

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Full timeline linked above

 

[Guru]

He should have had his Daddy buy him a bronze star.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

*July 30, 1970. Bush does three lines of coke at a classmate's party.

 

[TheCleaningLady]

Bush served honorably
Kerry served honorably

Let's move on.

Allah = Satan

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

Allah = Satan

Ishua=ruse

 

[gypsywitch]

As much as I hate political threads...

I like the people here.


Hello.

 

[ruminator]

Bush served honorably
Kerry served honorably

Let's move on.

Allah = Satan

Evidently you take their more seriously than most people do.

I'm making up for 3 weeks of unchallenged SBVfT claims.

 

[ruminator]

As much as I hate political threads...

I like the people here.


Hello.

Hey there

That was a wonderful picture you posted of the 'toe'

 

[Daedalus77]

Evidently you take their more seriously than most people do.

I'm making up for 3 weeks of unchallenged SBVfT claims.

You do know that this was brought up when Bush first ran in Texas for Governor and when he ran for President in 2000. It was also brought up last February. When the right questioned Kerry's medal the left responded that the military gave him those medals so it proves it's true.

Well GW was given an honorable discharge by the military so that makes it true.

It's really sad that we are stuck debating what happened 30 years ago. I think most of us would agree that what we would have done 30 years ago is what we would do now.

 

[ruminator]

You do know that this was brought up when Bush first ran in Texas for Governor and when he ran for President in 2000. It was also brought up last February. When the right questioned Kerry's medal the left responded that the military gave him those medals so it proves it's true.

Well GW was given an honorable discharge by the military so that makes it true.

It's really sad that we are stuck debating what happened 30 years ago. I think most of us would agree that what we would have done 30 years ago is what we would do now.

Of course.

Calhoun's claims were contradicted in several ways by the documents released by the WH. last Feb. The claims have never been disproven only "rationalized" and repeated by the right wing and media. Honestly, the left just lets it ride and used to accept that he had some favors but was otherwise fairly compliant.

Barnes has been honest and consistent in his testimony.

It's the way the argument is framed by the right that lets him keep getting off the hook for responsibility.



Well GW was given an honorable discharge by the military so that makes it true.
Now, I surely hope you will discount the SBVfT that make all these claims against official, 'must be true' long standing documents.

 

[TirelessTongue]

Am I not the only one tired of all this prattle about Bush and Kerry's service records?

Who gives a rats ass ??? Seriously.

 

[lavender]

Am I not the only one tired of all this prattle about Bush and Kerry's service records?

Who gives a rats ass ??? Seriously.

It's now more than just their records with respect to Bush. He has been lying to us about this through 1 state campaign, 2 national campaigns and as President of the United States.

That's one reason it's important.

Another reason is this:

Bush seems very willing to send off the sons and daughters of those not in his economic bracket to do this nation's dirty work.

But, when he was called to serve his country - he used his economic status as being a member of the privileged class to shirk his duties.

Just shows you that he won't truly put his money where his mouth is. As always, he counts on the "minions" to do his dirty work.

 

[Guru]

I hope my kids, one will be 17 in a month, don't become "minions."

 

[ruminator]

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Yes we are tired of the prattle on the records of both candidates but the old story of GWB's service record have never been disproven.

It goes to the heart of his (impaired)credibility and (lack of)understanding of the sacrifice required to pursue actions that could have been avoided.

He's had the luxury of not being held responsible for his actions for much of his life. There are no signs of this changing.

 

[SINthysist]

In each of his years in the Guard, Bush needed 50 points to fulfill his obligations. It was only in his LAST year that he managed to squeak by with just 50-some odd points.

In all the other years he had FOUR TIMES the required points.

All the gaps and finger-pointing occur during a time when pilots were being stood down as there was a glut of pilots.

The continual hammering of the topic also shows how weak the Democrat Presidential Campaign is and is actually observably begining to back-fire as more and more Americans realize that this one charge is reall all John Forbes Kerry has to offer them and that Bush has done a bang-up job with these last three years of his miltary service as CIC.

 

[SINthysist]

In short, John Forbes Kerry has proven he cannot run an effective campaign so that offers little hope that he can run ANYTHING effectively, let alone the war against Wahhabi-ism or the economy...

Just the fact that he missed so much time from his intelligence committee responsibilities demonstrates his lack of fitness to lead.

 

[miles]

It really doesn't matter anymore, does it?

Kerry for dog catcher.

 

[SINthysist]

lavy one could easily say the same things of Boston Brahaim John Forbes Kerry who is from the Kennedy Social Circle and has lived a life of affluence and did get some string pulled to get that faked first Purple Heart which his commanding officer turned him down on because tere was no enemy fire (and yes, the guy was there, on another boat, during that TRAINING mission).

 

[SINthysist]

No miles, I think you are correct.

Thanks for your bingo yesterday to my Rove remarks.

 

[ruminator]

In each of his years in the Guard, Bush needed 50 points to fulfill his obligations. It was only in his LAST year that he managed to squeak by with just 50-some odd points.

In all the other years he had FOUR TIMES the required points.

All the gaps and finger-pointing occur during a time when pilots were being stood down as there was a glut of pilots.

The continual hammering of the topic also shows how weak the Democrat Presidential Campaign is and is actually observably begining to back-fire as more and more Americans realize that this one charge is reall all John Forbes Kerry has to offer them and that Bush has done a bang-up job with these last three years of his miltary service as CIC.

The continual denials prove how effective his supporters are at enabling his irresponsible behavior.

He did not live up to his commitments.

He did not report to assigned duties.

He refused to submit to a required physical and was stripped of his flight priveledges.

 

[miles]

It's now more than just their records with respect to Bush. He has been lying to us about this through 1 state campaign, 2 national campaigns and as President of the United States.

That's one reason it's important.

Another reason is this:

Bush seems very willing to send off the sons and daughters of those not in his economic bracket to do this nation's dirty work.

But, when he was called to serve his country - he used his economic status as being a member of the privileged class to shirk his duties.

Just shows you that he won't truly put his money where his mouth is. As always, he counts on the "minions" to do his dirty work.

More class warfare bullshit.

"yawn"

 

[miles]

The continual denials prove how effective his supporters are at enabling his irresponsible behavior.

He did not live up to his commitments.

He did not report to assigned duties.

He refused to submit to a required physical and was stripped of his flight priveledges.

Rum, this is the fourth time this has come up. First when he ran for guv, again in 2000, and twice this year, and nobody has proven a damn thing.

He was honorably discharged. Do you know what that means?

The story has no legs, It's over, dude.
Deal with it.

 

[SINthysist]

It was John Forbes Kerry himself who said what a man did in Vietnam didn't mean a thing when the draft-dodger Clinton ran against the war-hero Bush I.

You guys have killed your chance of getting Bush out of office with your myopic moronic attacks. Meanwhile, no matter how devastating the attacks on Kerry's shameless behaviour, George W. Bush has praised the Senator's service. He took the high road while John Forbes Kerry took the low road and simply decided to stay quiet and take cheap shots at Bush's service.

People can see that and will not vote for someone that two-faced. I think you should go back and read WeirdHarold's post form yesterday as to why he, an undecided, has been convinced by Kerry to vote for Bush. I know my experiences with the military post Vietnam precludes me from putting THAT loathsome Fucktard into office.

HAVE YOU READ HIS BOOK?

If he has fucked up his Presidential Campaign this badly, how can he be trusted to run anything short of a cluster-fuck?

 

[SINthysist]

It was only three weeks ago when ABC's The Voice was proclaiming, this race is all but over, it's Kerry's to lose and DAMNED if he just didn't go out there and do just that!

 

[ruminator]

Rum, this is the fourth time this has come up. First when he ran for guv, again in 2000, and twice this year, and nobody has proven a damn thing.

He was honorably discharged. Do you know what that means?

The story has no legs, It's over, dude.
Deal with it.

You're right in that it isn't any more of a big deal than it has been every other time it has been rationalized as acceptable.

The WH admits he shirked his duty, did not report as ordered, had his flight priveledges stripped for refusing to take a physical and then jam a bunch of service time in to meet requirements.

They don't dispute those facts.