TIED TO A CHAIR!

[Paul Vickers]

Do they have an equivalent of Brownies and Cubs in America - a sort of summer camp for young ones in uniform, with rules? Just wondering.

I want to see if anyone has the same bad memories I have, which involve being tied to a chair, blind-folded, heavily mocked and jeered at while desperately trying to complete a simple assault course.

I cried my eyes out and said to my Dad I was never going back. Sadly he forced me to return on several occasions, where as usual me and other young lads were humiliated in front of a gaggle of middle-aged men.

Any further comments?

 

[KillerMuffin]

Yes, they're called the Brownies and later for older girls Girl Scouts and the Cub scouts, later for older boys the Boy Scouts. Didn't they start here? Or am I being an arrogant american assuming that?

 

[Naked Hunny]

I dont know where Boy Scouts started but Girl Scouts were started by a mother living in North Carolina who had two young children a boy and a girl. Her son attended boy scouts and she felt bad that her daughter couldnt have that kind of experience so she formed the girl scouts.

 

[Paul Vickers]

I'm not sure of the origin of the organisations in question. I was more disturbed by the training practices they impose on young people.

(My associate Mr Simian wonders "Lord Baden Powell: American?")

 

[Womanlover]

Boy Scouts started in Africa under Lord Baden Powell for English boys during the Boer war

 

[Gus]

Dib Dib Dib

I dont know where Boy Scouts started ...

The scouting movement was started by one Baden-Powell shortly after his return from the Boer War.

 

[KillerMuffin]

Okay. Factoid stored for future use.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Paul, WTF are you talking about? You were tied to a chair and then had to complete an assault course? I picture you bound to a bar stool and rolling through an obstacle coure...huh?

Not a chance will the Boy Scouts or Cub Scouts do that. Not in America, anyway, and I seriously doubt anywhere else.

Are you sure you weren't a Hitler Youth?

 

[Isabella Thorne]

Wanna buy some girl guide cookies?

ummm well Paul dear ... I do dress up sometimes in a girl guide uniform ... and I have to admit sometimes I do get blind-folded and ummmm well yes sometimes I do get tied up too ...

but geez never in front of a gaggle of middle age men ... hmmmm ... I will have to ponder that a bit more I think ..
_______________
I promise
to do my best
to do my duty
to help other people at all times
and to obey the Guide law.
~Girl Guides of Canada Promise~
*said while holding up my right hand with only my 3 middle fingers showing*

 

[Gingersnap]

GIve me some compazine or did we just bury lunch

I went to Girl Scout Camp and it was the most frightening experience of my life. They were totally sucessful at creating a life long loathing of the word camping in me. Our Girlscout leader was a cross between cheetah and MiMi on Drew Carey. She undressed in front of me and I still quail at the memory. She had long black hair and I do not mean on her head. When she saw us frozen in in terror she decided that it was time for this group of ten year olds to see what a "grown up lady looked like". I think she had read too many copies of Our Bodies Ourselves or something. I had nightmares for weeks after that trip. The older girls (the thirteen year olds) told us to come with them one night and we watched through their cabin windows as they (two scout leaders} used their umm fingers and other things on each other much to our amazement. I do not believe I ever heard a word she said after that all I could do is stare at her. After the third day I got a gastroenteritis from the poorly cooked hotdogs and got to home. I never went to another Scout meeting again.

 

[Paul Vickers]

Dear, Dixon,

Whether anyone believes me or not is not the issue. I have memories of a brutal experience in total darkness - being attacked from all corners by damp broom-ends, as laughter echoed manically through the room. I am actually looking for sympathy and am also hunting for info from tormented souls with similar experiences.

I'm not a Fascist, and do not believe such broom-poking mischief was at the root of the bahavioral patterns of Hitler's so-called master race.

Do you have any bad Scouting memories to bring to the debate?

 

[Womanlover]

Nice fresh virgin to attack eh, DCL? Don't worry about DIXON CAWTAH LEE, Paul......he wants to rename this site

DIXON CAWTAH LEEROTICA.COM



[Edited by Womanlover on 09-27-2000 at 04:46 PM]

 

[Always]

I was a Girl Scout, a Cadette, I think. nothing like that ever happened in the Chicago 'burbs where I used to live.

I'm STILL a member of the Boy Scouts. never go to the meetings, just have the little card somewhere...

 

[Adoratrice]

I dont know where Boy Scouts started but Girl Scouts were started by a mother living in North Carolina who had two young children a boy and a girl. Her son attended boy scouts and she felt bad that her daughter couldnt have that kind of experience so she formed the girl scouts.

UMMM NOPE.....the Girl Scouts were formed by Juliette Gordon Low who was from Savannah Georgia. In 1912 she traveled to England where she became friends with Lord Baden-Powell, the founder of Boy Scouts. His sister was in charge of the girls called "girl guides", Juliette wanted to form the same type of group for american girls...so she did...Her neice Daisy Gordon was the first girl scout.
more useless info: 5-6= Daisy
6-7-8= Brownie
8-9-10-11=Junior
11-12-13-14=Cadette
14-15-16-17=Senior
I knew all that 8 years of monthly leader meetings would pay off someday!! *YES*

Oh and by the way EWWWWW! we have not ,do not and will never (nor do we want to) undress in front of the girls at camp!! Nor do we tie them to chairs...we have be known to torture them with repetitive singing but thats about it....

I said boom-chicka-boom!
I said booma-chicka-rocka-chicka-rocka-chicka-boom!....

 

[Paul Vickers]

You're dangerous Isabella, hot stuff. I bet you took on the assault course with the zest and speed of a restless cheetah.

Incidentally, I sometimes wear a lady's dress BUT ONLY EVER AT PUBLIC EVENTS where showing off is encouraged. In a funny way, it's a uniform for me that say's loudly, "I'M HERE TO ENTERTAIN - jump on my wagon and chew some straw!"

Gingersnap - just as I suspected. The Brownies is a smoke-screen for blatant nudism, lesbian floor-shows and undercooked meet products.

 

[Naked Hunny]

Ok maybe i was confusing girlscouts with campfire girls so sue me.


And Hey!!

Make new friends and keep the old
One is silver and the other gold!!

 

[minx]

Make new friends and keep the old
One is silver and the other gold!!

How about:

I've got something in my pocket,
it belongs across my face.
I keep it very close to me,
in a most convinient place.
I'm sure you couldn't guess it,
if you guessed a long, long while.
So I'll take it out and put it on,
It's a great big Brownie smile.

I love that one! Unfortunately, our troop prefers "God bless my underwear."

 

[Always]

5-6= Daisy

now they call 'em Pixies.

 

[minx]

5-6= Daisy

now they call 'em Pixies.

No, they don't.

 

[Always]

yes, they do, minx, because my best friend's oldest child is a Pixie.

when I say shit like this, you can bet I know what i'm talking about.

 

[Bobtoad777]

http://www.girlguides.ca/about/about-who.htm

5-7 Sparks

7-9 Brownies

9-12 Guides

12-15 PathFinders

15-17 Cadets and Junior Leaders

 

[Always]

that's not Girl Scouts, that's girlguides. big difference!

 

[minx]

yes, they do, minx, because my best friend's oldest child is a Pixie.

when I say shit like this, you can bet I know what i'm talking about.

Obviously not, I have been a Girl Scout leader for 7 years, and active in my service unit and council.

Also, for the record, Girl Scouts and Girl Guides are the same thing. Just different names in different countries.

 

[Always]

what state are you in? cause in illinois, they changed it to Pixie a year or so ago.

 

[Paul Vickers]

YAY, YAY, BROWNIES and SCOUTS
Marshmallow mem'ries and teapot spouts

Dibs and Dobs and Cats and Dogs
Tipsy Tots and Forget-Me-Nots

Gypsy toast and fat cherry roast
Bits and bobs and duffle-coat togs

Hot lorry socks and cheerful tops
They tie you to a chair and brutalise you with mops