PacificBlue
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Question for Men: Plus-size or BBW Women
Do men really like plus-size or BBW women, why or why not?
Do men really like plus-size or BBW women, why or why not?
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Thoughts on Big Beautiful Women
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They are
big and they are beautiful, but what is inside. That's what counts.
big and they are beautiful, but what is inside. That's what counts.
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People always say it's what is on the inside that matters but the reality is something different. I agree with you it's what SHOULD matter but it doesn't seem too.
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I notice nobody is replying but people are looking at the post. I can't believe nobody has any feelings on the subject....or is it just to taboo to discuss...issues of weight. I bring this us because I'm overweight and I have two choices...learn to be happy in my own skin or lose the weight. Part of me feels that by losing the weight (I've never been thin) I've given in to what I think society wants of me and I'll never truely know whether somebody loves me for my insides or just my "cover". I think I'm beautiful when I look in the mirror, but I've truthfully had people stop wanting to talk on the computer after they find out I'm not thin...that's crappy and hurtful.
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It is crappy and it is hurtful. If you toodle through the personals at anyplace you'll often see this tagline added to any ads for guys. "No BBWs please."
Perhaps the question should be, "What can be done about the problem?"
Perhaps the question should be, "What can be done about the problem?"
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I love and find attractive.....
all women.
And I have had very good experiences with this wonderful classification of woman.
Juicy springs to my mind. Big and juicy.
I had a BAM once (Broad Ass Marine) once - and she was - in every sense of the phrase. And in the back of a Ford Pinto too. Man! It was great.
Pussy lips - so deep and wide - fist fucking time!!!!!
She went nuts!
all women.
And I have had very good experiences with this wonderful classification of woman.
Juicy springs to my mind. Big and juicy.
I had a BAM once (Broad Ass Marine) once - and she was - in every sense of the phrase. And in the back of a Ford Pinto too. Man! It was great.
Pussy lips - so deep and wide - fist fucking time!!!!!
She went nuts!
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I like big beautiful women. I want some meat on them! Though I've never claimed to be bisexual, I will admit to admiring women that aren't skinny. I would want to make sure I wouldn't break her, I don't want some sickly-looking female. Of course... this is only if I professed to being bi. Unfortunately the appeal just isn't there.
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PacificBlue said:
I think that discussions about the difference between BBW and "fat ladies" is hard for most people to put into words. There are indeed some women who are big and beautiful, but there are also a lot of women who claim to be a BBW who are just plain fat. The difference is the attitude and the way they present themselves.
PacificBlue said:
There is a third option: Lose the weight that is "excess" and learn to be happy with a healthy, if large, body.
You don't give any particulars, but you give the impression that you're heavier than is really healthy for you. Let your health determine what the "right" weight is, and then work to get to and stay at that weight.
You really do sound as if you are rationalizing a few excess pounds with the BBW label.
PacificBlue said:I think I'm beautiful when I look in the mirror, but I've truthfully had people stop wanting to talk on the computer after they find out I'm not thin...that's crappy and hurtful.
People are shallow and cruel, especially when they can be casually insensitive and anonymous on the web.
Breaking the condidtioning that society expects and wants only "perfect people" (as defined by fashion magazines and Playboy) isn't easy. If you feel good about yourself, your weight will just cease to be an issue.
While I don't follw BBW around drooling, most of my sexual experience has been with "plus size" women. That's because the women I droll over as they pass by on the street are often too concerned about their looks to have much personality when I get to know one of them.
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I Prefer Some Curves
I prefer some curves on my women.
I actually don't care for extremes in either direction....TOO anorexic nor TOO obese either.
Pleasingly plump is fine. I'm a firm believer in its what's inside that counts. Attitude, baby, attitude.
I have had good and bad lovers. I've had some *VERY* good lovers who were BBW's....along with some BBW's who were not what I would call very good lovers.
Same applies for thinner women.
Be yourself. Enjoy.
MrB
I prefer some curves on my women.
I actually don't care for extremes in either direction....TOO anorexic nor TOO obese either.
Pleasingly plump is fine. I'm a firm believer in its what's inside that counts. Attitude, baby, attitude.
I have had good and bad lovers. I've had some *VERY* good lovers who were BBW's....along with some BBW's who were not what I would call very good lovers.
Same applies for thinner women.
Be yourself. Enjoy.
MrB
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There is a Robert Heinlein short story, in which the main character is a somewhat overweight teenage girl. Her major problem was that she was seriously jealous of the 'beautiful' girls that her boyfriend knew. He settled her mind by taking her to a museum which had an exhibition by Ruben, an artist famed for his paintings of BBW.
I agree wholeheartedly with the fictional boyfriend. The current mania for anorexic women in our culture is a crime. It isn't healthy at all. Certainly, you should try to maintain a weight that is good for you, health-wise, but trying to get to that 'model' size is insane. Not to mention rather unattractive, imho.
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Thank you for all your comments...all are very helpful.
I guess I've just had some bad experiences with people over the net...I figured people here were more interested in your "insides" than your "outsides" but just like in life you run into both. I guess the trick is not to let it get you down and move on and figure it was their loss. (easier said than done) I wish I could say I'm not nervous at the prospect of sending my picture to anyone in the future, nobody likes to be rejected like that.
In response to the comment: "hiding behind the BBW title" I'm not even sure I like that title. I don't like titles in general, they are confining but it was the best word I could think of to start this string and gather opinions. But I do see your point about the difference between being "fat" or a "BBW". Do I have a few pounds I could lose, yes I do...who doesn't. Do I think I'm at the "extreme" edge? No, I don't. It's just that I've been described as being a great girl, very sweet, good company, smart, funny, etc...so how come I'm single? I come up with only one answer.
I guess I've just had some bad experiences with people over the net...I figured people here were more interested in your "insides" than your "outsides" but just like in life you run into both. I guess the trick is not to let it get you down and move on and figure it was their loss. (easier said than done) I wish I could say I'm not nervous at the prospect of sending my picture to anyone in the future, nobody likes to be rejected like that.
In response to the comment: "hiding behind the BBW title" I'm not even sure I like that title. I don't like titles in general, they are confining but it was the best word I could think of to start this string and gather opinions. But I do see your point about the difference between being "fat" or a "BBW". Do I have a few pounds I could lose, yes I do...who doesn't. Do I think I'm at the "extreme" edge? No, I don't. It's just that I've been described as being a great girl, very sweet, good company, smart, funny, etc...so how come I'm single? I come up with only one answer.
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People who set limits......
People who keep check lists. People who "except only a limited vision of life,"..........
Miss much it.
Life, most of it wonderful - will go unseen.
Roses will go unsmelled. (Unsmelled? What the hell kind of word is that?)
Words will go unmangled.
I have no sympathy for those......
Assholes.
But unfortunately they do exist. And lately it seems they may be prevalent.
So what.
As long as you know who you are - and you know what you want out of life - and strive toward that - open life experience - than that's all that really matters.
People who keep check lists. People who "except only a limited vision of life,"..........
Miss much it.
Life, most of it wonderful - will go unseen.
Roses will go unsmelled. (Unsmelled? What the hell kind of word is that?)
Words will go unmangled.
I have no sympathy for those......
Assholes.
But unfortunately they do exist. And lately it seems they may be prevalent.
So what.
As long as you know who you are - and you know what you want out of life - and strive toward that - open life experience - than that's all that really matters.
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One example of Peter Paul Reubens' work
http://sunsite.dk/cgfa/rubens/p-rubens3.htm
http://sunsite.dk/cgfa/rubens/p-rubens3.htm
http://sunsite.dk/cgfa/rubens/p-rubens3.htm
http://sunsite.dk/cgfa/rubens/p-rubens3.htm
Neale
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Neale
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he and his wife and son
http://sunsite.dk/cgfa/rubens/p-rubens23.htm
http://sunsite.dk/cgfa/rubens/p-rubens23.htm
http://sunsite.dk/cgfa/rubens/p-rubens23.htm
http://sunsite.dk/cgfa/rubens/p-rubens23.htm
PB, I am not able to read everything here, and I apologise for any redundancies in advance.
I am not a tiny girl.. I have a butt, big tits, and a my waist to hip ratio is drasticaly curved. I am short to boot, so that really helps..
I have porportion going for me, but I am not a lightweight...
Funny thing is, someone may see me as fat, and others may see me as average, because they are looking at it from a holistic perspective. I call myself average, because it makes me feel better
and because it is true. I look around me and see more extreams in either direction, than from what I am so I figure I am somewhere in the middle, maybe leaning toward the heavy end, because I put on some winter fat, from quitting smoking. I am certainly not obease, but I not thin by anymeans and never have been. I am what I call subsantially voluptuous.
Regardless, I am happy, because I am loved by my family and friends. I don't really give a rat's ass anymore, but for my health.
And that is exactly what you need to think about here....
What is more important, fitting into a social fallacy of a norm, or being healthy...
If it is in a persons genetics to be thin, than it wouldn't be healthy for them to try to put on weight. Their body isn't adept to it. You may be on the other end, but the problem is more in the way of extreams being a health problem..
I am not condoning obeasity here. Obeasity is very dangerous, and has killed many people prematurely.
Consider your health, more than your appeal..
Find a confidance that you appearantly don't have right now, in that you are not just a peice of meat.
I hope you understand, that men (the good ones) really dont' care about that shit, when it comes to real love.
We all get old and wrinkly, and what is important in the end is love, not sex appeal.
Those who think that that is the most important, over someones feelings, doesn't deserve that person to begin with.
I know it is a long, lonely road, if the people around you are assholes, but you should do whatever you decide FOR YOU AND NO ONE ELSE.
I have lost 10 pounds this month, because I want to be more healthy, not so I get more sex, or have men gwak at me.
I hope you feel stronger about this really soon.
*hugs*
I am not a tiny girl.. I have a butt, big tits, and a my waist to hip ratio is drasticaly curved. I am short to boot, so that really helps..
I have porportion going for me, but I am not a lightweight...
Funny thing is, someone may see me as fat, and others may see me as average, because they are looking at it from a holistic perspective. I call myself average, because it makes me feel better
and because it is true. I look around me and see more extreams in either direction, than from what I am so I figure I am somewhere in the middle, maybe leaning toward the heavy end, because I put on some winter fat, from quitting smoking. I am certainly not obease, but I not thin by anymeans and never have been. I am what I call subsantially voluptuous. Regardless, I am happy, because I am loved by my family and friends. I don't really give a rat's ass anymore, but for my health.
And that is exactly what you need to think about here....
What is more important, fitting into a social fallacy of a norm, or being healthy...
If it is in a persons genetics to be thin, than it wouldn't be healthy for them to try to put on weight. Their body isn't adept to it. You may be on the other end, but the problem is more in the way of extreams being a health problem..
I am not condoning obeasity here. Obeasity is very dangerous, and has killed many people prematurely.
Consider your health, more than your appeal..
Find a confidance that you appearantly don't have right now, in that you are not just a peice of meat.
I hope you understand, that men (the good ones) really dont' care about that shit, when it comes to real love.
We all get old and wrinkly, and what is important in the end is love, not sex appeal.
Those who think that that is the most important, over someones feelings, doesn't deserve that person to begin with.
I know it is a long, lonely road, if the people around you are assholes, but you should do whatever you decide FOR YOU AND NO ONE ELSE.
I have lost 10 pounds this month, because I want to be more healthy, not so I get more sex, or have men gwak at me.
I hope you feel stronger about this really soon.
*hugs*
Neale
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and my personal favorite: "The Three Graces"
http://sunsite.dk/cgfa/rubens/p-rubens43.htm
http://sunsite.dk/cgfa/rubens/p-rubens43.htm
http://sunsite.dk/cgfa/rubens/p-rubens43.htm
http://sunsite.dk/cgfa/rubens/p-rubens43.htm
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Thank you Neale...those are BEAUTIFUL!!!
I forgot to add something....
This kind of thinking about society is what causes anorexia..
In my family, I am not 'allowed' to become thin, and as weird as that sounds, it is because my Aunt died at the age of 42 from anorexia, weighing 82 lbs. It is so sad, and my parents always worried about me.
When I was sixteen they put me in a metal hospital, because I had lost 25 lbs, and weighed 105 lbs. because I was sick, but they thought I was sick in the head... Boy where they sorry when they found out I had mono. Nice huh?
Well, I just want you to know not to get to bent out of shape over your weight..
A. It will either make you starve yourself unhealthily or it will B. hold you back from getting to a healthy weight. (both depending on your minds set.)
~Starfish
This kind of thinking about society is what causes anorexia..
In my family, I am not 'allowed' to become thin, and as weird as that sounds, it is because my Aunt died at the age of 42 from anorexia, weighing 82 lbs. It is so sad, and my parents always worried about me.
When I was sixteen they put me in a metal hospital, because I had lost 25 lbs, and weighed 105 lbs. because I was sick, but they thought I was sick in the head... Boy where they sorry when they found out I had mono. Nice huh?
Well, I just want you to know not to get to bent out of shape over your weight..
A. It will either make you starve yourself unhealthily or it will B. hold you back from getting to a healthy weight. (both depending on your minds set.)
~Starfish
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Starfish is right. Health and personal happiness is the most important issue. I went from a happy 130 to 170 post pregnancy weight. In an effort to Please my ex I lost the weight (using drastic measures) and got down to 104. I felt better at 170 than at 104. I had more energy, was happier, my skin and hair were healthier. When the issue of how stupid I was to do this just to make one asshole happy was brought to my attention, I re-gained some weight, and am now at a happy medium. At 104 I was unattractive, depressed and angry. Not only have I lost the need to change my appearance to make others happy, I ditched the asshole too.
It's sad that these body issues are being introduced at such young ages too. My daughter, 7, has gained some weight from a medication she is on for epilepsy. Go to the stores though, and look at some of the clothes they are selling for 7 yr olds. Hip-hugger jeans, halters, mini t-shirts. While her friends are trying to imitate Britney, Christina and Mandy, I insist she wear sensible clothes, loose-fitting and age-appropriate. Do her friends understand? No.
It's sad that these body issues are being introduced at such young ages too. My daughter, 7, has gained some weight from a medication she is on for epilepsy. Go to the stores though, and look at some of the clothes they are selling for 7 yr olds. Hip-hugger jeans, halters, mini t-shirts. While her friends are trying to imitate Britney, Christina and Mandy, I insist she wear sensible clothes, loose-fitting and age-appropriate. Do her friends understand? No.
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As someone who has been severely overweight and fought long and hard to get to a healthy weight, I empathize with you PB. I no longer weigh myself, I'm content knowing that I'm healthy and fairly fit. I don't mind that I have a little pot belly, or that my breasts and hips are "too big" by fashion industry standards. I'm happy with who I am now.
I have to agree with Weird Harold on all of his points...damn that is one smart guy
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I am obviously (look at my name!) a BBW. I have had numerous people stop talking to me online after then find out I'm not thin. That is why I put BBW in my title, so that I could weed out the bad ones right away.
It sucks when people judge you by your weight! But it's fun when you prove them wrong.
I am big, but healthy. I work out 3 times a week (2 hours at tae kwon do, twice a week, plus a weekend workout) occasion even more than that. When I go to the doctor they are suprised to find that I have a very healthy heart, great blood pressure, etc.
I cannot lose weight though. I eat pretty healthy, lots of chicken, veggies! I sometimes sneak in some chocolate too, but not alot. But I was meant to be fat! No matter how hard I try, I never lose weight. I've even been bulimic, I used to throw up every night, I don't recomend it! And I didn't lose one pound! I stopped when one night I burst most of the blood vessels in my face, and looked like i had chicken pox for a week. I accept my weight even if I would prefer to lose 100lbs.
And other people will just have to accept it too!
So those rude people can kiss my ass!! (and wonder in the big beauty of it!)
It sucks when people judge you by your weight! But it's fun when you prove them wrong.
I am big, but healthy. I work out 3 times a week (2 hours at tae kwon do, twice a week, plus a weekend workout) occasion even more than that. When I go to the doctor they are suprised to find that I have a very healthy heart, great blood pressure, etc.
I cannot lose weight though. I eat pretty healthy, lots of chicken, veggies! I sometimes sneak in some chocolate too, but not alot. But I was meant to be fat! No matter how hard I try, I never lose weight. I've even been bulimic, I used to throw up every night, I don't recomend it! And I didn't lose one pound! I stopped when one night I burst most of the blood vessels in my face, and looked like i had chicken pox for a week. I accept my weight even if I would prefer to lose 100lbs.
And other people will just have to accept it too!
So those rude people can kiss my ass!! (and wonder in the big beauty of it!)
i post to this thread very, very tentatively, but nonetheless......
i really dont have a problem with anyone make any sort of aesthetic choice when determining a mate. wether they like short, tall, thin, big, miniscule, whatever, its their tastes. If it weren't for aesthetics, what would we have in this world. I happen to like hippy (with hips, no flowers in their hair) and busty brunettes, thats my gig. I dont feel as if I'm missing out on tall thin girls or large women, or blondes, or whatever... I've got my thing, it works, I'm sticking to it.
I guess the point this that I would hate to hate anyone for not dating some one based on aesthetics, its their choice, thats life.
i really dont have a problem with anyone make any sort of aesthetic choice when determining a mate. wether they like short, tall, thin, big, miniscule, whatever, its their tastes. If it weren't for aesthetics, what would we have in this world. I happen to like hippy (with hips, no flowers in their hair) and busty brunettes, thats my gig. I dont feel as if I'm missing out on tall thin girls or large women, or blondes, or whatever... I've got my thing, it works, I'm sticking to it.
I guess the point this that I would hate to hate anyone for not dating some one based on aesthetics, its their choice, thats life.
