Those who do not learn from history...

[LukkyKnight]

Originally said by Abraham Lincoln:

"With malice toward none, with charity for all, ...let us strive on to finish the work we are in, ...to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations."

Excerpted with respect from his Second Inaugural Address, Mar. 4, 1865

 

[sweet soft kiss]

sounds like a sweet dream right about now.

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

"With malice toward none, with charity for all, ...let us strive on to finish the work we are in, ...to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations."

Excellent goal.

The question, of course, is what's the best way to do that? Not so easy to answer.

 

[LukkyKnight]

Go, I dare you, go walk the battlefields of Bull Run, Manassas, Chicamaugua... walk any of them, and even those of you who do not consider yourselves particularly spiritual will feel the shiver which reminds visitors of all who died there so horribly, so young, so certain they fought for a right and just cause. Walk Chicamaugua, where brother fought brother right in the middle of Georgia, and tell me what parent could wish for their child take up arms. Walk Manassas, feel Manassas, and know why the ground is perserved. See the monuments and realize they are not there as tributes to war, but as reminders to those who come afterwards of the unholy horrors men inflicted willingly upon each other.

Perhaps it was, indeed, inevitable. Given all the posturing and investment, I suspect strongly no alternative course was going to emerge. I do not fault the brave people who serve in Bush's Military, or Blair's, or Hussein's. I wish them all the very best - may no more suffer.

Said long ago by Croesus of Lydia:

No one would be foolish enough to choose war over peace--in peace sons bury their fathers, but in war fathers bury their sons.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

It's a nice dream Lukky, but unfortunately, extremists of all religions and political beliefs will prevent this from happening.

 

[LukkyKnight]

Not a dream - a goal; in that case articulated by a man who had seen, smelled, tasted, and felt the so-called Civil War. Giving up hope is not a viable strategy.

 

[sweet soft kiss]

So dreams are to be discounted? Where would the world be without the dreamer and the visionary?

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

Not a dream - a goal; in that case articulated by a man who had seen, smelled, tasted, and felt the so-called Civil War. Giving up hope is not a viable strategy.

I agree that it would be a nice goal. But unfortunately, it would take a great number of people to accept the religions and politics of others. Hell, that can't even happen in the US, so for it to happen worldwide seems like a pipe dream.

 

[Svedeesh_cheff]

thuse-a vhu du nut leern frum heestury

pereesh frum ieteeng looteffeesh

 

[celiaKitten]

Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so, whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose -- and you allow him to make war at pleasure. If today, he should choose to say he thinks it necessary to invade Canada, to prevent the British from invading us, how could you stop him? You may say to him, 'I see no probability of the British invading us' but he will say to you, 'Be silent; I see it, if you don't.'" -

- Abraham Lincoln

 

[LukkyKnight]

I agree that it would be a nice goal. But unfortunately, it would take a great number of people to accept the religions and politics of others. Hell, that can't even happen in the US, so for it to happen worldwide seems like a pipe dream.

"...would...would..." it *is* a goal, just apparently not yours. Saying a thing can't happen convinces some people not to try, and justifies not pursuing it for others. They said you couldn't sail around the planet. They said you couldn't fly. They said you couldn't exceed the speed of sound. They said you couldn't split an atom. They said you couldn't climb Everest. They said you couldn't end slavery. They said you couldn't go to the moon...

Some of us are inspired to choose to do these things not because they are easy.

 

[Silverluna]

Lukky you have a good point...

 

[fasique]