Those low lifed Weasel Dicked,,,,,,,,,

[SeaCat]

Well I got home today after a long day of work, but I was in a great mood because I'm off tomorrow and the day after. (Hell yeah I'm in a good mood about it, the sun is supposed to be shining upon South Florida for the next couple of days.) I get home and there is a note upon the door from the property manager, the sale we have all been awaiting with bated breath has gone through to the previously un-named parties. Our building has been sold and the tentative date for the closing is the end of July. No big deal really except for one minor thing. The company the building has been sold to is well known for buying a property and converting it to high end Condos. Say $200K for a one bedroom like the one I live in now.

The note went on to say the leases most likely wont b extended after the closing, which means I'll be out of a place to live at the end of July. (Right in the middle of Hurricane Season mind you.) Now that kind of sorta sucks the big one, bu wait it gets better.

Added to the bottom of the note is a question from the property manager. It seems the new owners had heard about me getting my unit ready for the season, ie. hurricane shutters, mounting hardware, etc. and wanted to see the plans I had drawn up not only for my unit but the rest of the building as well. These plans are complete with price lists and materials needed. The request was not a nice one either. "The new owners expect to see the plans you have drawn up for the building no later than one week before closing."

Hmmmmm, they are going to boot my ass out of the place I have lived in for the past year. The place I have fixed up with my own effort and money. Plus they "expect" to see the plans I drew up with no help from anyone else on my own time and with no compensation of any kind. (Oh the property manager found out about them from my wife after I was done drawing them up.) Somehow I think not, I shall as the saying goes, take my toys and go play elsewhere. (In this case I will be taking my plans, as well as my tools and other supplies with me when I leave.)

Ah well, life is interesting even if it isn't always fun.

Anyone else ever have to deal with B.S. like this?

Cat

 

[cantdog]

The house we had an apartment in was lost to a slumlord in a poker game, at the Tarratine Club, where they play, evidently, for high stakes. That was odd. He sold it shortly afterward. It was "every day, new rules," there, for a few months. I love the arrogance of the fellow about your plans, though. If his car window is open, piss in it for me.

 

[Weird Harold]

Hmmmmm, they are going to boot my ass out of the place I have lived in for the past year. The place I have fixed up with my own effort and money. Plus they "expect" to see the plans I drew up with no help from anyone else on my own time and with no compensation of any kind.

I think talking a lawyer might be well worth your time to at least get some compensation for your time and effort. Those plans are your intellectual property and if the new owners want them they should pay for them. (and since they appear to be assholes, they should pay through the nose for them.)

 

[Wildcard Ky]

I agree with Harold. Those plans are your intellectual property. I would let it be known that they may be for sale, or bartered for in some way, but they are not to be given for free.

 

[SeaCat]

Oh believe me the plans are not going to be given to the new owners for free. If they ever receive them then they will be paying for them.

It started last summer after the storms. Our building being an older one, and having been purchased prior to the laws now in effect was grandfathered so it didn't have to have window protection. I looked my place over and came up with a fairly cheap easy way to cover the windows. When I had finished that I was curious about the other units in the building and started looking them over. (62 units in a six story building.) I came up with plans for each unit, as well as all public areas. No one asked me to do this, I just did it for curiosities sake.

Now because the building has been sold, the new owners have to show either plans and supplies set aside to cover the windows in case of a storm, or they must have shutters installed before they can either rent or sell units. My plans would run them considerably less than if they had shutters installed. Too bad they decided to act like idiots.

Cat

 

[R. Richard]

Oh believe me the plans are not going to be given to the new owners for free. If they ever receive them then they will be paying for them.

It started last summer after the storms. Our building being an older one, and having been purchased prior to the laws now in effect was grandfathered so it didn't have to have window protection. I looked my place over and came up with a fairly cheap easy way to cover the windows. When I had finished that I was curious about the other units in the building and started looking them over. (62 units in a six story building.) I came up with plans for each unit, as well as all public areas. No one asked me to do this, I just did it for curiosities sake.

Now because the building has been sold, the new owners have to show either plans and supplies set aside to cover the windows in case of a storm, or they must have shutters installed before they can either rent or sell units. My plans would run them considerably less than if they had shutters installed. Too bad they decided to act like idiots.

Cat

I hope that this is not a stupid question SeaCat. If you have developed a storm protection system that is good enough that the new owners of your building are willing to try to bluff you out of it [DON'T DO IT!], why not show the system to some of the locals? If the locals like it, you are in what should be a highly profitable BUSINESS!

JMHO.

 

[Softouch911]

"Dear Apartment Management Company Asshole:

"Thank you for your interest in Seacat's Amazing Hurricane Protection System (tm). We currently offer several versions of the system and, because of my familiarity with this fucking dump, can offer them, installed, for only $1000000 per apartment.

"since I make a signifiant portion of my living from the Seacat Amazing Hurricane Protection System, I cannot currently offer the plans for your use without considerable consideration .... if you catch my drift. I would be interested, for example, in one of the new condos at my current prices. What are you willing to offer?

"If indeed you are interested in pursuing an equitable sharing of our mutual concern for the citizens of the future MegaFuck CondoComplex and the properties you wish to sell for princely sums, please contact my agent insert name of attorney here I will be happy to work with you toward our mutual benefit.

"Sincerely yours,

Seacat
Owner and Prop., Seacat Amazing Hurricane Protection System, Ltd."

 

[Awful Arthur]

Best check your lease, SC. Some have a clause stating that any changes to the property, etc. have to be approved by the management, etc. If you have begun any work, even a pencil mark or drill hole, they may have you in a bind.

Good luck. Those guys can be and usually are real bastards.

AA

 

[BlackShanglan]

Hmmm. But if the plans had to be approved by the owner, that's the guy you already have. The new guys don't get to hold you up for approval because it's already done. And the old guy is on tenuous ground because it's already done. He can probably take some kind of action to fine you if you've damaged the property, but he can't force you to draft him plans for your unit or all of the others. If the stuff is removable, you should just be able to remove it and show (take photographs) that no damage has been done.

Don't let them bluff you. If they want you to design storm protection, they should mind their manners and pay you as well.

Shanglan

 

[SeaCat]

Thanks for the advice all,
Crim I like the idea.

As for damage or changes to the building there has been none. Not even a test hole to check the cement. (Oops maybe I shouldn't have cleaned the cement.) Even so it would take me roughly half an hour to cover two 8 foot tall twelve foot long windows. I haven't heard anything from them today, then again it isn't the apointed time for me to drop off the plans. We shall see what happens, it should be amusing.

Cat

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

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[Hulder]

http://witchcraft.net/html/emoticons/huggies.gif

 

[Guest]

They look like balls.

 

[Hulder]

Must be why i like them.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

You know, SeaCat, IF they'd try to take you to court to get your plans for free... well, accidents happen, don't they? Papers... are very fragile.

If you catch my snitch...

 

[BlackShanglan]

You know, SeaCat, IF they'd try to take you to court to get your plans for free... well, accidents happen, don't they? Papers... are very fragile.

If you catch my snitch...

*chuckle*

Sorry, I'm trying to imagine "Nice set of plans you got there. Be a shame if sumpin' was to happen to 'em." in a Swedish accent.

Shanglan

 

[impressive]

If his car window is open, piss in it for me.

It's at times like this ... when it becomes desireable to piss into a car through the window ... that I wish I were a bloke.

 

[cantdog]

That and winter conditions at the outhouse are the sole occasions of genuine penis envy, imp. It is a handy nozzle!

 

[Guest]

That and winter conditions at the outhouse are the sole occasions of genuine penis envy, imp. It is a handy nozzle!

*snicker*

Cant said - nozzle.

 

[Guest]

. . . Added to the bottom of the note is a question from the property manager. It seems the new owners had heard about me getting my unit ready for the season, ie. hurricane shutters, mounting hardware, etc. and wanted to see the plans I had drawn up not only for my unit but the rest of the building as well. These plans are complete with price lists and materials needed. The request was not a nice one either. "The new owners expect to see the plans you have drawn up for the building no later than one week before closing." . . .
Cat

I wonder if the "sellers" tossed in your plans as part of the buying agreement.

And the buyers, not knowing the details (that you've done this on your own, that you've received no money for your time, and that the sellers have no legal claim to your work) are requesting your plans in what would be the normal course of property transfer.

If so, the sellers are about to get a rude awakening. Unless you've promised them a product and received payment for services rendered (some sort of contract, anyway) you don't owe them dick.

I would call a lawyer, though, just so you can toss in a name if anyone asks. I would also type up a nice letter to the new owners stating the exact situation. Give it to them in lieu of the plans they are expecting.

Good luck - let us know what happens!

 

[Svenskaflicka]

*chuckle*

Sorry, I'm trying to imagine "Nice set of plans you got there. Be a shame if sumpin' was to happen to 'em." in a Swedish accent.

Shanglan

Shang, don't tease the Swedish mafia - we're even worse than the Russians! We won't shoot you or stab you or anything lame like that. No, no, no. We'll FUCK you to death!

With a limp dick!!!






(Seriously, what I meant was that SeaCat could destroy them and say it was an accident - or even better, PRETEND to destroy them and say it was an accident, and then sell them anonymousloy!)

 

[Hulder]

Update?

 

[SensualCealy]

Hey SeaCat,

It wouldnt hurt contacting the people that regulate buildings for hurricanes as well, having the info you need to spout off at the drop of a hat will show the new owners you know what you are talking about. Even if you know this info, having the names of the people that gave it to you is a must have. "Joseph Blow from Hurricane standards informed me ......so you see, my plans are worth of your use on OUR building for a small fee!"
If the idea you have for the building is a good one, what about getting it looked at by the said Hurricane people and maybe look at pattening it. That way they HAVE to pay for it one way or another!
Would hate for the plans to be caught up in patten limbo until the sale is complete!
C

 

[BlackShanglan]

What an awful lot of sense Cealy talks. Wonderful suggestions.

 

[SensualCealy]

Any news yet?
C