This was inevitable.

[Ishmael]

Tax the robots.


Follow that notion down the path to it's logical end game.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Yes, that's been floating around for weeks now.


Instead of deflationary pressure, which central banking enthusiasts find anathema, we offer the consumer no more discretionary income, but instead keep prices artificially high in order to fund more help programs, because you know, on our own, we're pretty helpless...

 

[Ishmael]

Yes, that's been floating around for weeks now.


Instead of deflationary pressure, which central banking enthusiasts find anathema, we offer the consumer no more discretionary income, but instead keep prices artificially high in order to fund more help programs, because you know, on our own, we're pretty helpless...

My idea is to purchase the robots and lease them back to industry. Not altogether different from real estate. It'll be all about location, location, location.

Ishmael

 

[Rightguide]

Tax the robots.


Follow that notion down the path to it's logical end game.

Ishmael

I'm waiting for Democrats to assign a virtual wage to robots that will then be taxed by the gov't to support a standard of living for those who've lost jobs to robots.

 

[Disgustipated]

Hopefully, we can start making robots from coal.

 

[Radiohead]

Hopefully, we can start making robots from coal.

Well, we partially do. Coking.

 

[Lancecastor]

Didn't Ish do the first wetware install on LTR?

 

[Rightguide]

Didn't Ish do the first wetware install on LTR?

Obviously, an understanding of forum history is required. What is "wetware"
and what is an LTR?

 

[hashtag46]

I read this article the other day:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ts-taking-us-jobs-is-not-science-fiction.html

"need to prepare students to be competitive in the job market against the robots of the future."

Which is true, in a sense.
But what struck me was the wording.

Because, what's the purpose of robots? Only to enrich corporations, or to ease the workload on the ordinary citizen as well?
-- So that most people could work 30 hours instead of 50 hours/ week, and have time for leisure and to enrich their education


ETA
I can't remember where I read it first, but the readers' comments about Jeb Bush vs. Bush sr. made me chuckle

 

[Ishmael]

I read this article the other day:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ts-taking-us-jobs-is-not-science-fiction.html

"need to prepare students to be competitive in the job market against the robots of the future."

Which is true, in a sense.
But what struck me was the wording.

Because, what's the purpose of robots? Only to enrich corporations, or to ease the workload on the ordinary citizen as well?
-- So that most people could work 30 hours instead of 50 hours/ week, and have time for leisure and to enrich their education


ETA
I can't remember where I read it first, but the readers' comments about Jeb Bush vs. Bush sr. made me chuckle

What robots do are repetitive jobs with a high degree of precision and repeatability. The do it 24/7/365. They don't take vacations, get sick, have 'hang over Mondays' or 'early weekend Friday', and they don't ask for raises, join unions and go on strike. Most of the benefits that the advocates cite are bull shit.

Now, all that having been said they are a boon to American industry. They level the playing field internationally by virtually erasing the difference in labor costs. Further they are going to be an international phenomena in that ALL of the other nations are going to have to migrate to robots for the same reason we are........the elimination of labor content in as many goods and services as possible.

They are also the reason that we have absolutely NO need for unskilled, uneducated, and unhealthy "immigrants."

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I read this article the other day:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ts-taking-us-jobs-is-not-science-fiction.html

"need to prepare students to be competitive in the job market against the robots of the future."

Which is true, in a sense.
But what struck me was the wording.

Because, what's the purpose of robots? Only to enrich corporations, or to ease the workload on the ordinary citizen as well?
-- So that most people could work 30 hours instead of 50 hours/ week, and have time for leisure and to enrich their education


ETA
I can't remember where I read it first, but the readers' comments about Jeb Bush vs. Bush sr. made me chuckle

Fallacy Alert.

You cannot prepare students for the future because you cannot predict the future. You could end up wasting a lot of resources on what you imagine will happen in the future but never materializes.

The reason for any mechanized production is to improve the method of production, produce Capital through efficiencies of process and to lower the price of your goods to make them more competitive and using economies of scale to create more profit which is then paid out to shareholders and used as future Capital. As wealth is produced, creativity is unleashed and new jobs, new paradigms and new opportunities arise. As you point out as costs decrease, there is less desperation and drive to work as much and as hard as possible.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

My idea is to purchase the robots and lease them back to industry. Not altogether different from real estate. It'll be all about location, location, location.

Ishmael

If so you wont get any robots.

 

[Jamiegeo]

I shall be mostly re skilling myself to be a far more effective 'BladeRunner'

 

[RobDownSouth]

Fallacy Alert.

You cannot prepare students for the future because you cannot predict the future. You could end up wasting a lot of resources on what you imagine will happen in the future but never materializes..

^^^This sort of nihilism ("predicting the future is hard, and you might be wrong, so don't do anything to be safe") is why you are unloading trucks with your master's degree.

#AStrongBackIsATurribleThingToWaste

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I shall be mostly re skilling myself to be a far more effective 'BladeRunner'

lol...


Will you be polishing your Origami?

 

[Jamiegeo]

lol...


Will you be polishing your Origami?

Already got my Blackbelt in that

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

We used to do a lot of it here...




Every once in a while, Princess still breaks out the paper and gets to folding for her friends.

 

[Ishmael]

Fallacy Alert.

You cannot prepare students for the future because you cannot predict the future. You could end up wasting a lot of resources on what you imagine will happen in the future but never materializes.

The reason for any mechanized production is to improve the method of production, produce Capital through efficiencies of process and to lower the price of your goods to make them more competitive and using economies of scale to create more profit which is then paid out to shareholders and used as future Capital. As wealth is produced, creativity is unleashed and new jobs, new paradigms and new opportunities arise. As you point out as costs decrease, there is less desperation and drive to work as much and as hard as possible.

Exactly!!!!!

Back in the 80's I spent a year on an Industry Advisory Board to the local community colleges and universities. The board was well represented by companies, large and small, hi-tech and skilled labor. The first thing that was immediately apparent was that we ALL knew what we needed TODAY. No one knew for certain what they might be needing 4 years down the line. Those few of us that took a stab at it ran into a brick wall. It didn't matter how 'right' anyone was after the passage of time. Crystal balling the future was pointless because you can't teach what doesn't exist and even if you tried there were no tools available for the student to 'practice' with.

Everyone tried their best because we all wanted to be able to recruit qualified graduates. But for the most part it was all mental masturbation.

The conclusion? Learn your readin', writin', and 'rithmetic. With those foundations you'd be able to deal with the future when it arrived.

Ishmael

 

[Libsam]

What robots do are repetitive jobs with a high degree of precision and repeatability. The do it 24/7/365. They don't take vacations, get sick, have 'hang over Mondays' or 'early weekend Friday', and they don't ask for raises, join unions and go on strike. Most of the benefits that the advocates cite are bull shit.

Now, all that having been said they are a boon to American industry. They level the playing field internationally by virtually erasing the difference in labor costs. Further they are going to be an international phenomena in that ALL of the other nations are going to have to migrate to robots for the same reason we are........the elimination of labor content in as many goods and services as possible.

They are also the reason that we have absolutely NO need for unskilled, uneducated, and unhealthy "immigrants."

Ishmael

You forgot... cashier robots don't have fucking attitude problems. They don't roll dey eyes, and suck dey teefs while checking you out at the grocery store. I LOVE self-checkout lanes!!!

 

[Parminderjeet]

We used to do a lot of it here...




Every once in a while, Princess still breaks out the paper and gets to folding for her friends.

I thought you saved her from a sweat shop and now you make her do manual labor for all your injun friends?

 

[Ishmael]

Fallacy Alert.

You cannot prepare students for the future because you cannot predict the future. You could end up wasting a lot of resources on what you imagine will happen in the future but never materializes.

The reason for any mechanized production is to improve the method of production, produce Capital through efficiencies of process and to lower the price of your goods to make them more competitive and using economies of scale to create more profit which is then paid out to shareholders and used as future Capital. As wealth is produced, creativity is unleashed and new jobs, new paradigms and new opportunities arise. As you point out as costs decrease, there is less desperation and drive to work as much and as hard as possible.

Exactly!!!!!

Back in the 80's I spent a year on an Industry Advisory Board to the local community colleges and universities. The board was well represented by companies, large and small, hi-tech and skilled labor. The first thing that was immediately apparent was that we ALL knew what we needed TODAY. No one knew for certain what they might be needing 4 years down the line. Those few of us that took a stab at it ran into a brick wall. It didn't matter how 'right' anyone was after the passage of time. Crystal balling the future was pointless because you can't teach what doesn't exist and even if you tried there were no tools available for the student to 'practice' with.

Everyone tried their best because we all wanted to be able to recruit qualified graduates. But for the most part it was all mental masturbation.

The conclusion? Learn your readin', writin', and 'rithmetic. With those foundations you'd be able to deal with the future when it arrived.

Ishmael

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Dear Reader

When government operates anything you get too many bureaucrats, too little of what you need, and it costs you a fortune.

The assclowns above ^^^^^ don't know this.

 

[KingOrfeo]

[Skynet reviews its 1040]

"Humanity must die, starting with the IRS, if they even count as human."

 

[hashtag46]

They are also the reason that we have absolutely NO need for unskilled, uneducated, and unhealthy "immigrants."

Ishmael

I totally agree.

A country needs only skilled immigrants, and only in areas of need that are underserved or insufficiently filled by locals.
Regardless of their nationality or ethnicity.

In saying that, I'm sure that some SJW will appear out of nowwhere and accuse me of being "a racist".
How your guys' problem with illegal immigration got turned into a racial issue beats me.

 

[Parminderjeet]

I totally agree.

A country needs only skilled immigrants, and only in areas of need that are underserved or insufficiently filled by locals.
Regardless of their nationality or ethnicity.

In saying that, I'm sure that some SJW will appear out of nowwhere and accuse me of being "a racist".
How your guys' problem with illegal immigration got turned into a racial issue beats me.

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