"This Was A Train Wreck For The Obama Administration"

[miles]

Mandate in grave trouble

CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin discusses day two of oral arguments at the Supreme Court on President Obama's health care law.

"This was a train wreck for the Obama administration. This law looks like it's going to be struck down. I'm telling you, all of the predictions, including mine, that the justices would not have a problem with this law, were wrong. Justice Kennedy, the swing vote, was enormously skeptical. Justice Alito, Justice Scalia were constantly skeptical. Justice Thomas didn't say anything, but we know his position on the issue. The only conservative justice who looked like he might uphold the law was Chief Justice Roberts, who asked hard questions of both sides."

 

[Disgustipated]

He's still going to win the election, dummy. Have you found another failed candidate to endorse?

 

[koalabear]

*waits for the maggot to post*

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Mandate in grave trouble

CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin discusses day two of oral arguments at the Supreme Court on President Obama's health care law.

"This was a train wreck for the Obama administration. This law looks like it's going to be struck down. I'm telling you, all of the predictions, including mine, that the justices would not have a problem with this law, were wrong. Justice Kennedy, the swing vote, was enormously skeptical. Justice Alito, Justice Scalia were constantly skeptical. Justice Thomas didn't say anything, but we know his position on the issue. The only conservative justice who looked like he might uphold the law was Chief Justice Roberts, who asked hard questions of both sides."

every week is a train wreck with the obama. with obama, "Greed is good"

 

[miles]

*waits for the maggot to post*

As sure as death and taxes.

 

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[miles]

Liberals always fall for the painted railroad tunnel on the big boulder trick.

Best laugh of the day!!!

 

[Wrong Element]

Mandate in grave trouble

CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin discusses day two of oral arguments at the Supreme Court on President Obama's health care law.

"This was a train wreck for the Obama administration. This law looks like it's going to be struck down. I'm telling you, all of the predictions, including mine, that the justices would not have a problem with this law, were wrong. Justice Kennedy, the swing vote, was enormously skeptical. Justice Alito, Justice Scalia were constantly skeptical. Justice Thomas didn't say anything, but we know his position on the issue. The only conservative justice who looked like he might uphold the law was Chief Justice Roberts, who asked hard questions of both sides."

Who made those predictions? If Toobin actually ever believed that, he's an idiot. Everyone knows that Kennedy and Roberts are the only persuadable GOP justices, and Roberts only because he's the Chief and might want to go down in history as something other than a party hack like Rehnquist.

An awful lot of people have assumed they can tell how a justice will vote based on the tenor of their questioning. Their track record of accuracy is mixed, to say the least.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Who made those predictions? If Toobin actually ever believed that, he's an idiot. Everyone knows that Kennedy and Roberts are the only persuadable GOP justices, and Roberts only because he's the Chief and might want to go down in history as something other than a party hack like Rehnquist.

An awful lot of people have assumed they can tell how a justice will vote based on the tenor of their questioning. Their track record of accuracy is mixed, to say the least.

Everyone knows that Kennedy and Roberts are the only persuadable justices

FYP

 

[NeverEndingMe]

As sure as death and taxes.

obama is working on a new tax plan with God, that one can't die till all his or her taxes have been paid.

 

[Wrong Element]

Everyone knows that Kennedy and Roberts are the only persuadable justices

FYP

There would be nothing noteworthy about the other justices upholding several decades' worth of jurisprudence regarding the commerce clause. The question would be what's different about this law, other than it furthering a liberal policy goal. (The correct answer is nothing--it's all about politics.)

 

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[miles]

Originally Posted by Wrong Element View Post
Their track record of accuracy is mixed, to say the least.

Like your assumption that the kid in FL was killed because he was black.

 

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[aqwertyuiop]

He was not killed because he was black. Just like the guy that shot him didnt' do it because he was Hispanic.

Trayvon died because he was culturally and/or genetically stupid enough to assault someone. In the great state of Florida, MANY law abiding people pack knives and guns and they have the absolute right to use them to defend themselves when threatened with great bodily harm. That was probably the very last thing Trayvon learned in his wasted life. (Assuming he was culturally / genetically swift enough to realize it even then.)

Hopefully, other culturally / genetically stupid people of all colors and races will take note of what happened and not make the same mistake of assaulting other citizens.

Now, Trayvon's Momma is a lot culturally and/or genetically smarter. She'll cash in on the trademarks she filed on her son. I guess she watched and learned how the King family has leveraged Martin's tragic death for a generation.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

If the SJC strikes down the Affordable Care Act (or its major provisions including the mandate) it pretty much plays into the hands of the Obama administration and the reelection campaign.

It energizes the liberal base. It makes the conservative court "Them" and puts Ginsberg's retirement in play as a big campaign issue (this plus making a corporation a person does not sit well with liberals). It neutralizes Romney's "I'll repeal on day one" argument for the debates.

And - healthcare is still a huge issue and one that is retarding the recovery. Putting healthcare reform back on the front burner has to make Obama, and his billion dollar war chest, very happy.

 

[RobDownSouth]

As sure as death and taxes.

All you have to do, Miles Ben Zonah, is apologize for posting my family's personal information here on the General Board.

Until then,

YCSDIAF.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Everyone knows that Kennedy and Roberts are the only persuadable justices

FYP

Did you see "Justice" Scalia quoting Fox News to the government attorneys today?

No bias there, nossir.

 

[Dribble]

I hope it does get struck down. The cost of health care, which is going up at a clipping rate, will only double. Until this country hurts enough, change will never happen. Too many stupid people that believes in the GOP philosophy. Give tax breaks to the rich and raise taxes on the middle class too.

 

[ChauvanistPig]

It's really a win-win for the Dems if it's overturned. Seeing a GOP plan rejected by a conservative heavy SCOTUS is a win. Then it becomes evidence that the GOP is and has been nothing but obstructive to moving forward in this country.

 

[mercury14]

If the SJC strikes down the Affordable Care Act (or its major provisions including the mandate) it pretty much plays into the hands of the Obama administration and the reelection campaign.

It energizes the liberal base. It makes the conservative court "Them" and puts Ginsberg's retirement in play as a big campaign issue (this plus making a corporation a person does not sit well with liberals). It neutralizes Romney's "I'll repeal on day one" argument for the debates.

And - healthcare is still a huge issue and one that is retarding the recovery. Putting healthcare reform back on the front burner has to make Obama, and his billion dollar war chest, very happy.

And the GOP would be left with the bitter irony that their candidate is the only one who implemented universal healthcare...

 

[Dribble]

And the GOP would be left with the bitter irony that their candidate is the only one who implemented universal healthcare...

That's rich isn't it?

 

[RobDownSouth]

My favorite exchange of the day:

"Justice" Alito (wringing hands): So in essence, you are asking the vast majority of people who are NOT sick to subsidize the care of those who ARE sick!!

Justice Ginsberg (rolling eyes): That happens to be both the textbook definition and the fundamental principle of "insurance", Sam.

 

[ChauvanistPig]

My favorite exchange of the day:

"Justice" Alito (wringing hands): So in essence, you are asking the vast majority of people who are NOT sick to subsidize the care of those who ARE sick!!

Justice Ginsberg (rolling eyes): That happens to be both the textbook definition and the fundamental principle of "insurance", Sam.

Would this carry over to auto insurance if it's struck down? Should I, a driver with 30+ years of accident and violation free driving be made to subsidize drivers who think they're in the Fast and the Furious on a daily basis?