This place is a hot mess of nepotism and dysfunction

[AngelRider]

You prevent a story from being published because a teenager is given condoms by his father all the while allowing every disgusting racist rape fantasy that crosses your desk. And if you do manage to prevent any story from submission, I can only imagine the diseased mind that submitted the story.

I will also add the whole pedophile banning is entirely bullshit. Not because sickos are prevented but because so many stories are obvious pedo bait where the author convenient changed the age to 17. How many school bullies rape a mother (who of course always loves it because that's believable) where the son just happens to be 18, weak and small compared to the big bad bully who at least a quarter to half the time is African American and uses racist language. Don't even get me started on the stories where white people drop the N word

So let me get this straight, racism is totally okay but if a writer honestly includes a realistic scenario of an 17 year old male being told to take condoms, that is a violation?

Tell me, if one of your more popular jaggoff adolescent minded writers submitted a story with same, would you send it back? I am guessing not considering how often "18" is carefully placed nor to mention how often a certain well known writer with hundreds of stories has no qualms about demonstrating abject racism within the LW.genre.

Rant off. Ban me. I don't give a fuck.

 

[NotWise]

I'm glad you got that off your chest. Maybe you can think more clearly now.

 

[jaF0]

I'm dysfunctional, but where does the nepotism come in?

 

[KeithD]

Rant off. Ban me. I don't give a fuck.

You're probably safe from banning because the folks you are talking to don't normally read the discussion board. You're just ranting at other writers living with the same submissions guidelines being applied to you.

 

[KeithD]

I'm dysfunctional, but where does the nepotism come in?

Obviously, the OP means that Laurel wouldn't have a job if Manu didn't give it to her. And it would have to be Manu who controlled because, you know, he's the head of the household.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Racism, pedophilia, bullies, and the things you are explaining are facts of life. The rules are the rules, and their plenty of men, not just 18 year old's, that are small, weak, and have bad shit happen to them. I'm not fond of the rules. I don't like women loving rape. I don't mind writing or reading about rape, but any aspect of woman likening it, is an aberration not the norm. However, women do orgasm when they are raped. Even so, it doesn't mean they enjoyed it.

And anything that has a pedophile, jerking off, rather than out hunting a victim is a good thing.

Kids begin to think about sex as the near puberty. Just nature. But we cannot write about it nor can we warn them about certain dangers in stories here.

I don't know who's related to whom on here, so couldn't speak to the nepotism. Dysfunction is an odd chose, the site functions well. You just don't like the rules.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Obviously, the OP means that Laurel wouldn't have a job if Manu didn't give it to her. And it would have to be Manu who controlled because, you know, he's the head of the household.

In modern society, just because Manu is the man, it doesn't necessarily follow he is the head of the household. But you know that it's the other guy that doesn't. LOL

 

[SimonDoom]

This place is a hot mess of nepotism and dysfunction . . .


And yet, somehow, it's the world's most popular site for erotic fiction.

You haven't published anything. Your contributions to the boards have been minimal. I don't understand what the basis for the rant is.


There are all sorts of legitimate gripes about the way this Site does things and people have been griping ever since I joined here four and a half years ago. Sometimes things change. Sometimes they don't. In the end this is a Site that is owned and operated by two people, and there are certain kinds of stories they don't want published here. That's not dysfunctional. It's maybe peculiar. But . . . so?

There are other places to publish stories. You might try one of them instead.

 

[MillieDynamite]

This place is a hot mess of nepotism and dysfunction . . .


And yet, somehow, it's the world's most popular site for erotic fiction.

You haven't published anything. Your contributions to the boards have been minimal. I don't understand what the basis for the rant is.


There are all sorts of legitimate gripes about the way this Site does things and people have been griping ever since I joined here four and a half years ago. Sometimes things change. Sometimes they don't. In the end this is a Site that is owned and operated by two people, and there are certain kinds of stories they don't want published here. That's not dysfunctional. It's maybe peculiar. But . . . so?

There are other places to publish stories. You might try one of them instead.

Well with this insight, I have a few questions for the OP. Are you a writer at other sites? Do you post in the comments after you have read a story? Are you as abusive to the writers that do put themselves out there and publish as you are to the site owners?

Please tell us, our inquiring minds want to know. OH, that may be trade marked.

 

[TadOverdon]

I will also add the whole pedophile banning is entirely bullshit. Not because sickos are prevented but because so many stories are obvious pedo bait where the author convenient changed the age to 17. How many school bullies rape a mother (who of course always loves it because that's believable) where the son just happens to be 18, weak and small compared to the big bad bully who at least a quarter to half the time is African American and uses racist language.

Not a big rmdexter fan, then? LOL

 

[mordbrand]

I think that the OP is saying that the rules are not applied equally.

For example, in my last story Happy wife, happy life, I was flagged twice for underage sex. The first time, the closest thing that remotely resembled anything underaged was a small bit about the MC being 13 when he started to suspect his parents were going to incestuous swinging parties.

Nothing descriptive, just that he had a suspicion. So removed the age and put in the header that all characters were 18 or older. It was rejected again. I finally had to redo two big sections with multiple age drops. I also swapped from spelling the age to just numbers. It was accepted this time, but because it still mentioned the parents incest, it was mistakenly placed in incest/taboo. Now I'm on day 4 of trying to get it deleted.

Conversely, I know of many stories (and I am sure you do too) where characters are hinted at being underaged or just flat out are. There are also stories that contain large parts of other categories in them like incest, rape, or bdsm but they are in the proper categories. I used to report stories that severely break the rules, but depending on the author, little was done.

The system is wonky at best. So, I can sympathize with the OP. I was planning on posting stories again, but after this last experience, I don't know if I will bother.

 

[ElectricBlue]

That one was a bit late for the summer/winter solstice - you can almost set your calendar by what appears to be a random drive-by, but isn't really. These occurrences, odd as they are, happen regularly. I'm guessing the OP didn't get their story published.

 

[SimonDoom]

I think that the OP is saying that the rules are not applied equally.

For example, in my last story Happy wife, happy life, I was flagged twice for underage sex. The first time, the closest thing that remotely resembled anything underaged was a small bit about the MC being 13 when he started to suspect his parents were going to incestuous swinging parties.

Nothing descriptive, just that he had a suspicion. So removed the age and put in the header that all characters were 18 or older. It was rejected again. I finally had to redo two big sections with multiple age drops. I also swapped from spelling the age to just numbers. It was accepted this time, but because it still mentioned the parents incest, it was mistakenly placed in incest/taboo. Now I'm on day 4 of trying to get it deleted.

Conversely, I know of many stories (and I am sure you do too) where characters are hinted at being underaged or just flat out are. There are also stories that contain large parts of other categories in them like incest, rape, or bdsm but they are in the proper categories. I used to report stories that severely break the rules, but depending on the author, little was done.

The system is wonky at best. So, I can sympathize with the OP. I was planning on posting stories again, but after this last experience, I don't know if I will bother.

It deserves repeating:

Two people -- two -- operate this Website. Well over a hundred stories are submitted and published every single day.

It would not be humanly possible to enforce the content guidelines in a perfectly consistent way.

The underage rule is a bit idiosyncratic, in the sense that it forbids content of the type that kids can read by checking books out of the nearby public library. But it's really not that mysterious. It's mysterious to authors who fight it. Just accept it for what it is, get rid of all the borderline content, and move ahead.

Don't worry about what other people do, or what you think they get away with. Worry about what you can control: your own stories.

 

[Nouh_Bdee]

To put it another way.

 

[meddlesome]

You prevent a story from being published because a teenager is given condoms by his father all the while allowing every disgusting racist rape fantasy that crosses your desk. And if you do manage to prevent any story from submission, I can only imagine the diseased mind that submitted the story.

I will also add the whole pedophile banning is entirely bullshit. Not because sickos are prevented but because so many stories are obvious pedo bait where the author convenient changed the age to 17. How many school bullies rape a mother (who of course always loves it because that's believable) where the son just happens to be 18, weak and small compared to the big bad bully who at least a quarter to half the time is African American and uses racist language. Don't even get me started on the stories where white people drop the N word

So let me get this straight, racism is totally okay but if a writer honestly includes a realistic scenario of an 17 year old male being told to take condoms, that is a violation?

Tell me, if one of your more popular jaggoff adolescent minded writers submitted a story with same, would you send it back? I am guessing not considering how often "18" is carefully placed nor to mention how often a certain well known writer with hundreds of stories has no qualms about demonstrating abject racism within the LW.genre.

Rant off. Ban me. I don't give a fuck.

They are understandably uptight about under age stuff. Adapt or post it elsewhere.

 

[GuyandDoll]

The underage rule is a bit idiosyncratic, in the sense that it forbids content of the type that kids can read by checking books out of the nearby public library. But it's really not that mysterious. It's mysterious to authors who fight it. Just accept it for what it is, get rid of all the borderline content, and move ahead.

Right. It's morally understandable to ban underage content and, more to the point, legally understandable. No website will last long if it promotes underage content. Also, it's the site's rule; live with it.

The fact that other questionable or despicable content can be found here (around race, coercion, etc) is a different matter.

What *is* interesting is why so many people want to write about underage fantasies, feel that somehow their integrity is being compromised. Putting aside the pervs, is it the thrill of the "first time"? Coming of age? The American fascination with youth culture? The excitement of breaking the rules?

 

[SimonDoom]

What *is* interesting is why so many people want to write about underage fantasies, feel that somehow their integrity is being compromised. Putting aside the pervs, is it the thrill of the "first time"? Coming of age? The American fascination with youth culture? The excitement of breaking the rules?

It's all those things.

Youth -- I'm talking about post-pubescent, teenage years -- is a fascinating and memorable time of life for people in their sexual development. As a teenager, I wasn't getting sex, but I sure thought about it all the time, and was obsessed with girls, even if they seemed mysterious and sometimes terrifying. In my opinion there's a perfectly healthy and not-at-all creepy interest by adults in stories that depict that time in life and recall those feelings, which I imagine many of us keenly remember to this day. I've read some stories of that sort over the years, though not at Literotica, and I didn't find them offensive or creepy. At the same time I respect Lit's decision not to publish them.

One thing you said is not true. It's not true that underage content is illegal. Generally speaking, it's not, at least not in the USA. There's just a tiny bit of gray area because there have been a smattering of prosecutions here and there over erotic stories with underage content, but there are plenty of websites that publish it, seemingly with legal impunity. The one area that might get one in trouble is violent pedophilia. But most underage content is not going to get you in legal jeopardy.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

I believe that a large number of people complaining here about the age-rule claim that it obstructs their character-building and the realism of their stories. Their characters are unlikely to be still virgins at 18 years old, or events at a young age were important for their development.

Thing is, that's not true either. You can mention facts relating to the experience of under-18s, but not eroticise them. The dividing line between a factual mention and an erotic mention may be blurry but I've not found it hard to stay on the right side.

 

[GuyandDoll]

I believe that a large number of people complaining here about the age-rule claim that it obstructs their character-building and the realism of their stories. Their characters are unlikely to be still virgins at 18 years old, or events at a young age were important for their development.

Yes--and it's true. It's absurd that so many characters undergo a sexual awakening on their 18th birthdays.

I would assume, though, that "realism" necessarily takes a back seat to reality. I can't imagine trying to come up with a set of rules that banned explicit underage content while allowing ... underage desire, biologically appropriate maturation and curiosity, etc. It makes complete sense simply to restrict fiction on the site to adult experiences.

If someone feels that their work is being compromised, they can seek another forum.

"You can mention facts relating to the experience of under-18s, but not eroticise them. The dividing line between a factual mention and an erotic mention may be blurry but I've not found it hard to stay on the right side." This seems right to me.

 

[lovecraft68]

Best post ever. Accurate in everyway right down to the denial of the bootlickers here attacking someone for giving the 100% truth.

Good for you

 

[gordo12]

You prevent a story from being published because a teenager is given condoms by his father all the while allowing every disgusting racist rape fantasy that crosses your desk. And if you do manage to prevent any story from submission, I can only imagine the diseased mind that submitted the story.

I will also add the whole pedophile banning is entirely bullshit. Not because sickos are prevented but because so many stories are obvious pedo bait where the author convenient changed the age to 17. How many school bullies rape a mother (who of course always loves it because that's believable) where the son just happens to be 18, weak and small compared to the big bad bully who at least a quarter to half the time is African American and uses racist language. Don't even get me started on the stories where white people drop the N word

So let me get this straight, racism is totally okay but if a writer honestly includes a realistic scenario of an 17 year old male being told to take condoms, that is a violation?

Tell me, if one of your more popular jaggoff adolescent minded writers submitted a story with same, would you send it back? I am guessing not considering how often "18" is carefully placed nor to mention how often a certain well known writer with hundreds of stories has no qualms about demonstrating abject racism within the LW.genre.

Rant off. Ban me. I don't give a fuck.

That was a hard post to follow! At best, it seemed like you were complaining about a 17-year-old boy getting condoms. And then accused us all of writing...well whatever.

The broader implication of giving a 17-year-old condoms is that he's going to have sex. And that clearly puts you offside for the 18 rule here.

And whatever you think of the stories here. Let's get one thing straight.

All those stories take place in the ADULT WORLD. Not in the world of CHILDREN.

 

[Jake_Raazor]

So, in summary...

“I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries”

Top thread.

 

[ElectricBlue]

So, in summary...

“I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries”

Top thread.

Is that a new forum concept, that after x posts, any rant thread will eventually revert to Monty Python? It's a welcome alternative to the other bloke .

 

[jaF0]

Hey, there's a whole thread on Monty in the GeeBee. Or is it the PeeGee?

 

[jaF0]

It's a welcome alternative to the other bloke .

Don't be dissin' Benny Hill.