This is so sad and outrageous

ABSTRUSE

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(6/23/07 - LOS ANGELES, CA) - When Edith Isabel Rodriguez showed up in the emergency room of an inner-city hospital complaining of severe stomach pain, the staff was already familiar with her.

It was at least her third visit to Los Angeles County's public Martin Luther King Jr.-Harbor Hospital in as many days. "You have already been seen, and there is nothing we can do," a nurse told her.

Minutes later, the 43-year-old mother of three collapsed on the floor screaming in pain and began vomiting blood. Employees ignored her, and she was soon dead.

Now state and federal regulators are threatening to close the hospital or pull its funding unless it can be improved, and Rodriguez has become a symbol of everything wrong with the facility derisively known as "Killer King."

After she collapsed, surveillance cameras show that Rodriguez was left for dead on the floor.

Nurses walked past her. A janitor cleaned up around her. No one did anything until police were called to cart her away. They didn't get far before she went into cardiac arrest and died.

"This needs to stop," state Health Services Director Sandra Shewry said Thursday as the agency moved to revoke the hospital's license. "We're doing this in response to the egregious incidents that have come to light in the last six weeks."

The hospital, formerly known as Martin Luther King Jr.-Drew Medical Center, was built after the 1965 Watts riot to bring health care to poor, minority communities in south Los Angeles.

But it had been plagued by patient deaths blamed on sloppy nursing care, among other things. The county attempted over the last few years to correct the problems with a multimillion dollar rescue effort, disciplining workers, reorganizing management, closing the trauma unit and reducing the number of beds from 200 to 48.

After Rodriguez's death, federal reports showed those efforts were failing and patients were in "immediate jeopardy." Of the 60 cases reviewed between February and June, more than a quarter received substandard care, according to the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

In February, a brain tumor patient languished in the emergency room for four days before his family drove him to another hospital for emergency surgery. A pregnant woman who complained of bleeding was given a pregnancy test and left, only to return three days later and have a miscarriage after waiting more than four hours to see a doctor.

The findings have sent county officials scrambling to improve care before a federal inspection due by Aug. 15 that could determine whether the hospital keeps its federal funding. The county might close the facility without that money. The hospital, meanwhile, could contest the state allegations in a hearing before a Department of Health Services administrative law judge.

"I'm losing hope," Zev Yaroslavsky, member of the county Board of Supervisors that oversees King-Harbor, told hospital managers earlier this week. "We need to be prepared for the worst-case scenario."

On Friday, the county's Department of Health Services released a contingency plan to deal with closing hospital departments and relocating patients if they must. The plan, which also lays out how the hospital could eventually be reopened if a private partner is found, will be presented to the Board of Supervisors on Tuesday, said Bruce Chernof, director of the department.

Even though hospitals nationwide struggle with too many patients and not enough staff, the scope and severity of King-Harbor's problems are rare.

"Most hospitals in America have long waits, they have crowded ERs," said Dr. Bruce Siegel, former chief of New York City's public hospitals and a George Washington University professor. "But they don't let people die in the waiting room after they call 911. This is a whole new level here."

Rodriguez, who struggled with drug addiction over the years, had visited King-Harbor several times for stomach pain in the days before she died. Each time, she was sent home, in some cases with pain medication, after doctors said she suffered from gallstones.

"They discharged me, but I don't feel good. I feel sick," she told her sister, Marcela Sanchez.

At the urging of her sister, Rodriguez returned to the hospital.

Early on May 9, she was wheeled into the ER by county police officers.

"Thanks a lot, officers, she's a regular here," a nurse said. "She has already been seen and was discharged."

After the nurse again refused to help, Rodriguez slid off her wheelchair and onto her knees in a fetal position, screaming in pain, according to a federal report based in part on surveillance videotape.

Over the next half hour, hospital staff walked past her. Soon, her boyfriend, Jose Prado, who had left for about an hour, returned to the hospital.

"When I came back, I found her lying on the floor with blood coming out of her mouth," Prado said. "She said, 'Honey, help me! Nobody will help me here!"'

He pleaded with medical staff and then a county police sergeant to intervene, but no one did.

"I told him she had blood in her mouth," Prado says he told the sergeant. "But he told me, 'Don't worry, she just has chocolate in her mouth."

Then he called 911.

"My wife is dying and the nurses don't want to help her out," he said in Spanish through an interpreter

"What's wrong with her?" a dispatcher asked.

"She's vomiting blood," Prado said.

When the dispatcher refused assistance, he hung up and frantically ran back to Rodriguez.

"I just hugged her. I didn't know what else to do. I couldn't think of anything else," he said.

Eventually, officers arrested her on a parole violation.

Police wheeled her out of the ER, then returned minutes later after Rodriguez's heart had stopped. Autopsy results revealed she died of a perforated bowel that probably developed in the previous 24 hours, a condition that is often treatable if caught early enough.

"They took her outside to die like an animal," Prado said.

After her death, a triage nurse was put on leave, resigned and was reported to the state Nursing Board for investigation. Six others -- a nurse, two nursing assistants, and three hospital finance workers -- were disciplined. Sheriff's detectives, meanwhile, have opened a homicide investigation.

Rodriguez's family said little will ease their grief. They plan to sue and are seeking copies of the video surveillance tapes, which are being held as part of a criminal investigation.

"They took my sister," Sanchez said. "It wasn't time for her to go."
 
*sigh*

The janitors even cleaned around her? What, were they made of stone? :(
 
ABSTRUSE said:
it sickens me.
Not enough staff to take care of the patients is one thing, but letting someone die in front of your eyes while you can still save them is just plain cruel.
 
FatDino said:
Not enough staff to take care of the patients is one thing, but letting someone die in front of your eyes while you can still save them is just plain cruel.
apparently you can't visit more than once a month. :rolleyes:
 
ABSTRUSE said:
apparently you can't visit more than once a month. :rolleyes:
You know what they say, "don't get sick if you don't have money." :rolleyes:
 
Shrugs. Doesn't surprise me. Sickens me but doesn't surprise me.

In a system where you're only as important as your economic worth, why should I be surprised?
 
I remember seeing this in the news a week or so ago. There was a recording of a woman (who was witnessing all this in the waiting room) also calling 911 and being told "she's in an emergency room. They're experts. They know what they're doing." Then you also hear the operator chastising her because "911 is for emergencies. This is NOT an emergency."
 
I watched this on CNN..
It was horrifying to watch. They played the tapes of her boyfriend/husband calling 9-11. It was so sad.
I can't believe that this happened. We just keep sinking lower and lower.
 
CeriseNoire said:
I remember seeing this in the news a week or so ago. There was a recording of a woman (who was witnessing all this in the waiting room) also calling 911 and being told "she's in an emergency room. They're experts. They know what they're doing." Then you also hear the operator chastising her because "911 is for emergencies. This is NOT an emergency."


I haven't found a link for the calls yet, and now I'm not sure I could take listening to them; but I found this which notes details from both the boyfriend/husband's call as well as the bystander's.

I think there was a failure on more levels than just the hospital's.
 
Bastards!!! :mad:
It seems like there is no limit to how shameless and cruel people can become.
 
Her husband called 9-11 from the waiting room of the ER to get an ambulance to take her to a different hospital and they told him that they were only around for emergencies and that that since she was already at a hospital, it wasn't an emergency. They told him this even after he told the dispatcher she wasn't recieveing care and that she was vomiting blood.
 
Dar~ said:
Her husband called 9-11 from the waiting room of the ER to get an ambulance to take her to a different hospital and they told him that they were only around for emergencies and that that since she was already at a hospital, it wasn't an emergency. They told him this even after he told the dispatcher she wasn't recieveing care and that she was vomiting blood.

People have forgotten the meaning of the word 'decency'
At least let the person die in peace.
Maybe the nurses would find it amusing if their loved one had to die this way. With others telling "She's a regular here"
If I were in her husbands place I would have set each one straight and I wouldn't mind going to jail for that.
 
Remec said:
I haven't found a link for the calls yet, and now I'm not sure I could take listening to them; but I found this which notes details from both the boyfriend/husband's call as well as the bystander's.

I think there was a failure on more levels than just the hospital's.

Those calls were really creepy. The bystander kept saying "But they're not doing anything. They're letting her die", and the dispatcher just kept on chastising her about it not being an emergency. Hearing it gave me chills.
 
Ah, yes. :( The Rodriguez's case. You have to understand, King-Harbor Hospital is notorious and has been in the local news for months now with arguments going back and forth over whether it should be closed. There have been scandals before, but they never closed the place because, frankly, the community they take care of has no where else. As you can probably tell, this is where you get emergencies like gang members with gunshot wounds, etc.

I'm not the least surprised that the hospital has the most jaded, least caring, and most incompetent staff.

Every time King-Harbor is in the news with stories about the most appalling mistakes and neglect, about nurses failing tests, etc., everyone wonders if the city will finally close it; it stays open and everyone wonders what will have to happen for them to close it....

And now there's this. It might be the final nail in the coffin. What isn't mentioned in this article is that a lot of the people directly involved with letting her die have just gotten "written" reprimands for ignoring this woman. The hospital is frantically trying to cover its ass and, once again, stay open.

Really, more and more, and this is from the top down in almost every respect, this world seems to be less about those in charge taking care of the people who *are* their charges than taking care of themselves.....
 
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There is more to this case than you are seeing in the article. The Rodriguez woman was a wanted drug dealer, under arrest. The hospital was waiting for the police to release her so they could treat her.

That does not relieve the hospital from the responsibility of providing some amount of first aid while they were waiting. However, emergency rooms are not like ER. They are staffed by tired, overworked people who make mistakes. Should they have administered first aid? If they were unable to get to her, should they have transferred her to another facility? Yes to both questions.

If you hear the tape of the 911 call, you would have heard the woman's son arguing with the 911 operator. He didn't sound "frantic" as you would expect. He sounded more pissed off that they didn't take her first.

Personally, I'm offended by the characterization of the woman in the article. "...the 43-year-old mother..." There is a part left out. As the first paragraph says, the hospital knew this woman. She had been there before with the same complaint due to smuggling drugs that she'd swallowed in condoms.

Is this hospital a poor example? Yes. But I really think they should tell the whole story rather than play on the emotions of the public with the rhetoric the news paper trys to pass off as "News".
 
3113 said:
Ah, yes. :( The Rodriguez's case. You have to understand, King-Harbor Hospital is notorious and has been in the local news for months now with arguments going back and forth over whether it should be closed. There have been scandals before, but they never closed the place because, frankly, the community they take care of has no where else. As you can probably tell, this is where you get emergencies like gang members with gunshot wounds, etc.

The hospital is South of where I used to live in the South Central. It is located in a nasty, violent area and, if things have not changed all that much since I left, they probably get an avalanch of shooting, stabbings, beatings, etc. each night. I don't attempt to justify letting the woman die, bit death is never very far away in the area.

As you point out, if they close the hospital, where then will the people who live in the area go for ER care?

Most of the people of Los Amgeles are ready to criticize things in the South Central area, but few are willing to do much about the problems there. I myself made perhaps a major increase in the safety of the general area. [I left.]
 
If they had driven 40 minutes south to Harbor Medical, she would have been seen. That place gets as many patients as either King, or L.A. County, and manages to process every one of them in a reasonable amount of time.

Jenny, are you saying that the woman didn't deserve to be taken seriously because she was a drug-dealing asshole? That's not a distinction a hospital is supposed to make.
 
Stella_Omega said:
If they had driven 40 minutes south to Harbor Medical, she would have been seen. That place gets as many patients as either King, or L.A. County, and manages to process every one of them in a reasonable amount of time.

Jenny, are you saying that the woman didn't deserve to be taken seriously because she was a drug-dealing asshole? That's not a distinction a hospital is supposed to make.
I am going to give you a standing O on that. (interpret that as you will....;) )
 
Dar~ said:
I am going to give you a standing O on that. (interpret that as you will....;) )
can I at least sit down? ;)

In fact, now that I come back to this thread--
he Rodriguez woman was a wanted drug dealer, under arrest. The hospital was waiting for the police to release her so they could treat her.
No, she went in there as a patient first. The cops-- who came finally in response to the second 911 call-- arrested her while she was lying on the floor in a pool of her own blood.
 
neonurotic said:
As a medical professional and a human being, that is so appalling and totally unacceptable. Instead of handing down disciplinary actions that haven't done a lick of good against the hospital, the state of California needs to take control of that hospital and fire all the employees and hire a whole new competent, compassionate staff.

I applaud your statement. However, you probably are not familiar with the area. A lot of people don't want to even drive through the area at night. A hospital has to be open 24/7. Finding a new competent, compassionate staff is a VERY tall order.
 
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