This Is News!

[R. Richard]

They say when dog bites man, that's not news. When man bites dog, that's news! This definitely qualifies as news. You do have to wonder why the man was not charged with animal cruelty for biting the bow-wow.


Man Allegedly Bites Officer, Police Dog

KANSAS CITY, Missouri - Police say a man bit an officer and his dog Friday after trying to stiff a cab driver on an early morning fare.

Mark. A McClarty, 28, of Kansas City, Kansas, was charged Friday with assaulting a police officer, resisting arrest and stealing.

Capt. Rich Lockhart said the suspect broke the skin on an officer's hand when he bit him. The man then nearly bit the ear off the police dog.

Lockhart said a cab driver told a police officer at 2:15 a.m. that someone had refused to pay a fare. When the officer found the man nearby and got out of his car to stop him, Lockhart said, but the man spun around and punched the officer.

Lockhart said the officer used a remote control to release his police dog from the patrol car, and the dog joined the fight. After the dog bit the suspect, the man bit back and nearly took off the dog's ear.

The suspect also bit the policeman's hand before other officers arrived and used a Taser stun gun to subdue him.

The officer was treated at a hospital, while the dog's ear was reattached by a veterinarian.

 

[Guest]

So that's what happened to Mike Tyson.

What a nasty man, I would've got my revenge by biting something entirely different.

Lou

 

[R. Richard]

So that's what happened to Mike Tyson.

What a nasty man, I would've got my revenge by biting something entirely different.

Lou

Tatelou:
If I had been the bow-wow, I would've got my revenge by biting somewhere. entirely different The guy would have had to plead in a soprano voice in court.

 

[Guest]

Tatelou:
If I had been the bow-wow, I would've got my revenge by biting somewhere. entirely different The guy would have had to plead in a soprano voice in court.

Precisely.

And the dog might have got a little snack to boot.

 

[JRaven]

You do have to wonder why the man was not charged with animal cruelty for biting the bow-wow.

It was a police dog. The charge of assaulting a police officer was probably for the dog. It happened once on my side of the state. During a drug bust, a guy shot at the police dog. He was charged for assaulting a police officer for wounding the dog.

Jenny

 

[Guest]

You do have to wonder why the man was not charged with animal cruelty for biting the bow-wow.

Assaulting a police officer is a felony offense, animal cruelty is not. Hope the dumb shit get ass fucked in prison. No doubt, he;ll try to bite someone there and he'll get shanked for it.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Hope the louse gets a judge who's a member of PETA.

 

[Guest]

Precisely.

And the dog might have got a little snack to boot.

Probably very little.

 

[Liar]

Re: Re: This Is News!

Ok, this guy is obviously a dumbfuck who attacked the police first, and then went on a rampage.

But really, if a big, agressive dog comes along and bites me, regardless of the situation, if I deserved it or not, police dog or no police dog, I would kick it in the ribs until I hear something snap. It's not a question of cruelty to animals, or assaulting a police officer. It's a question of making sure I don't have dog teeth in me.

#L

 

[cantdog]

Precisely, Liar. Training a dog to attack people begs for it to be exposed to self-defense on the part of the people.

I walk the streets for exercise, because my back is shot. I do a lot of foot travel, although it's un-American, I know, not to be in a car. Before that, as a kid, I used to bicycle a lot and walk to school. Dogs attack, and dogs threaten to attack. They do it because their owners have tied them out for days on end, hour upon hour, and made them obnoxious and dangerous, or they do it because someone has expressly trained, as here, their dog to break the social contract.

I decided at the age of eight that I wasn't going to be bitten by a fuckin dog ever again. No one better sic one on me, or they'll get it the fuck hurt. That's my take on attack dogs and guard dogs. They can snarl and bark and act like shitheads, but if they get within their springing distance, I'm ready, and if they actually come for me, they go down.

cantdog

 

[Guest]

Precisely, Liar. Training a dog to attack people begs for it to be exposed to self-defense on the part of the people.

I walk the streets for exercise, because my back is shot. I do a lot of foot travel, although it's un-American, I know, not to be in a car. Before that, as a kid, I used to bicycle a lot and walk to school. Dogs attack, and dogs threaten to attack. They do it because their owners have tied them out for days on end, hour upon hour, and made them obnoxious and dangerous, or they do it because someone has expressly trained, as here, their dog to break the social contract.

I decided at the age of eight that I wasn't going to be bitten by a fuckin dog ever again. No one better sic one on me, or they'll get it the fuck hurt. That's my take on attack dogs and guard dogs. They can snarl and bark and act like shitheads, but if they get within their springing distance, I'm ready, and if they actually come for me, they go down.

cantdog

OK, but I have a pretty serious question for you, cant.



How did you hurt your back?
(Too many nubile young lovelies walking all over it?)

 

[R. Richard]

Precisely, Liar. Training a dog to attack people begs for it to be exposed to self-defense on the part of the people.

I walk the streets for exercise, because my back is shot. I do a lot of foot travel, although it's un-American, I know, not to be in a car. Before that, as a kid, I used to bicycle a lot and walk to school. Dogs attack, and dogs threaten to attack. They do it because their owners have tied them out for days on end, hour upon hour, and made them obnoxious and dangerous, or they do it because someone has expressly trained, as here, their dog to break the social contract.

I decided at the age of eight that I wasn't going to be bitten by a fuckin dog ever again. No one better sic one on me, or they'll get it the fuck hurt. That's my take on attack dogs and guard dogs. They can snarl and bark and act like shitheads, but if they get within their springing distance, I'm ready, and if they actually come for me, they go down.

cantdog

Cantdog:
I understand your point of view. However, you are making a serious error.

A police dog is trained to go for the legs to stop and immobilize a person the police are after. The training is based upon the theory of as little damage to the taget as practical.

An attack dog is trained to go for the throat. If you ever try conclusions with an attack dog, chances are it will kill you. I am not trying to be a smartass, I am trying to save your life.

I used to be a runner. I am familiar with the problem of big dogs that are so frustrated at being penned up in little tiny yards that they will attack anything that runs. The problem is with the owners, not the dogs.

JMHO.

 

[cantdog]

Cantdog:
I understand your point of view. However, you are making a serious error.

A police dog is trained to go for the legs to stop and immobilize a person the police are after. The training is based upon the theory of as little damage to the taget as practical.

An attack dog is trained to go for the throat. If you ever try conclusions with an attack dog, chances are it will kill you. I am not trying to be a smartass, I am trying to save your life.

I used to be a runner. I am familiar with the problem of big dogs that are so frustrated at being penned up in little tiny yards that they will attack anything that runs. The problem is with the owners, not the dogs.

JMHO.

My realization that the dog is less to blame than its owner does not allow me to supinely accept attack without defending myself.

If the owner jumps me, I will defend myself then, too.

My position is consistent.

So much for that. Who EVER is to blame, no fuckin dog or anybody fuckin else will ever attack me or mine without provoking a defense.

I prevailed over a merely nasty dog at eight. I didn't kill him, but the owners fuckin well had to when I got home with dog blood all over me. Fuckin thing went for my little sister and I broke its jaw for it.

I know a little more about combat now than I did at eight. Let the saving of my life with attack dogs begin before the dogs are sent to attack and the bastards will live longer.

 

[Liar]

My position is consistent.

And I agree. A police dog may bite me in the leg, as opposed to the face or throat. But it's still one dog too many attached to my body, and I will in that situation do what it takes to make sure it lets go, and that it doesn't try again any time soon.

I wouldn't bite it's ear off though. Sounds both highly ineffective and unhygienic.

#L

 

[cantdog]

I don't rule it out, though. No holds barred is a good goddam rule when your life is threatened.

My back... Well, I don't know. It happened before I was five. I have a pair of vertebrae which are misshapen and knobby. They are only held in place by the action of my muscles, else they would slip along their natural slope and transect the cord. I would then be wheelchair bound and incontinent, a step down from my present mode of life, as I see the problem. My x-rays have caused a licensed masseur to refuse to touch me for fear of actually managing to relax those muscles.

Could have been congenital, could have been an injury. I have memeories which still leave me wondering which it was.

I don't run unless it is bloody necessary, though; it compresses the spine. I do walk, lots, especially up and down hills. And I stretch and whatnot. Inactivity leaves me aching for a couple of days until I stretch and walk the stiffness out.

Life leaves scars. You do what you need to.

 

[SeaCat]

Hey Cant,

Check out some of the online stores in Alaska or Canada for the Pepper Spray made for defense from bears. It's a bit strongewr than that normaly found here in the states and has a marker dye in it. This will stop any dog in it's tracks. (They make a spray device for defense against Grizzlies which shoots over fifty feet, unfortunately it's the size of a small fire extinguisher.)

As an aside, when my father was in Alaska the last time he read an acount of a group rafting in one of the rivers. When they stopped one night they were concerned the bears would attack and damage one of their rafts so they sprayed the rafts down with pepper spray before going to bed. The next morning they found the rafts shredded. It turns out a direct spraying of the bear will stop them, but if you spray something it just acts like Tabasco does for some of us.

Another good defense, especialy in winter is to take apart a stun gun. Mount the battery pack on the cuff of a glove and the electrodes on the fingers. (One on the thumb.)(Wear a rubber glove inside the glove.) Turn it on and anything you grab gets a jolt.

Cat

 

[R. Richard]

A simple defense against a dog is to carry an umbrella. If a dog runs at or menaces you, point the umbrella towards the dog and open it. It will scare the dog off. (Postal carriers sometimes use this, which is where I found out about it.) I think the point here is that the dog possibly thinks of a very large bird swooping on it and reacts with fear.

 

[cantdog]

I like that one. Its easier than breaking the shepherd's jaw by hand. I'd read of it as a defense against geese and swans, but it never occurred to me to transfer it to a dog.

The police dogs in this tradition, wherever they train them for central Maine, go for the forearm, which people generally obligingly raise in its face anyway, and which might have been useful for defense if it wasn't for the dog's jaws sunk in it. They do tackle the legs if the subject is fleeing, but I don't run so good.

True attack dogs, besides being an abominable idea, are trained to the throat, so far as I understand it. They are NFA-- No Fuckin Around-- kinda dogs.

The entire custom of training attack dogs violates for me the Laws of Robotics, which I see as the only basis to keep the animals amongst our offspring. Those guys do know how to defeat their creations, though. So do I. The dog will have to be quick.

I don't let cats scratch my children, either. I like the things well enough, but there are lines they don't cross with me.

 

[Boxlicker101]

In this case, the cop may have been justified in calling for his dog but there is a long history of cops siccing vicious brutes on those they don't like, just out of meanness. You have probably all seen them being used against peaceful demonstrators in the southern USA but they have also been used against harmless vagrants and others. Never against me but I have known others who were attacked like that and had the scars to prove it.

Viscious dogs should be killed. I know it is the fault of the owner but once a dog becomes a menace, kill it.