This is a growth budget that will restore Clinton-Gingrich welfare reforms

[james_1957]

When OMB (Office of Management and Budget) Director Mick Mulvaney unveiled the new budget, he used language that is so important -- although we haven't heard it in so many years.

To paraphrase Mulvaney, the measure of budget success for the President Donald Trump administration is not how much federal assistance is given out, but how many people leave government dependency and join the private labor force as fully-fledged workers.

The last time I heard a talk like this was over 20 years ago when President Bill Clinton teamed with Speaker Newt Gingrich to pass welfare reform. They argued that tighter eligibility, time limits, work-search mandates, and better training programs would move people from welfare to workfare.

Critics said wait, no — tougher welfare requirements will throw millions onto the streets with no federal assistance. Turns out they were wrong. Millions moved into the labor force to work productively, grow the economy, and provide themselves with new self-esteem and happiness.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/27/this...restore-clinton-gingrich-welfare-reforms.html

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Once again, patiently...,





The CBO applies static modeling to a dynamic system, which by its very nature is impossible to model without subjective guessing. The CBO is an virtual anachronism based upon the fallacies of the Historical School of Economics. It was a political solution without a real problem to solve.

 

[james_1957]

Once again, patiently...

So now, over 20 years later, Mick Mulvaney is talking workfare over welfare. And, of course, the left-wing screaming has begun.

But something must be done. Almost eight years after the recession trough, government benefits for welfare, food stamps (44 million people receive food-stamp benefits today, compared with 14 million in December 2007), Medicaid, and Social Security Disability Insurance are still exploding.

The expansion of food stamps, welfare, health-insurance subsidies, unemployment assistance, and disability assistance have led to unintended consequences and perverse after-tax incentives, such that it pays more to stay on assistance than to go to work. At the working-poor margin, taking a job may rob you of Obamacare subsidies. So better off not to work.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/27/this...restore-clinton-gingrich-welfare-reforms.html

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You are falling into the same fallacy.


When we did this 20 years ago, we were told it would not work.

IT WORKED! Now 20 years later, the conditions are all identical and it will work.


But the Social and Cultural inputs are most certainly not the same anymore than the technology. There is no way...

~*~ patiently ~*~

... that you can say the same thing will happen. Since this is a political solution, all that you can do is pass it and then observe what will actually transpire. And even then fail, succeed, push, you can never fully attribute the legislation to that which occurs.

 

[james_1957]

You are falling into the same fallacy.


When we did this 20 years ago, we were told it would not work.

IT WORKED! Now 20 years later, the conditions are all identical and it will work.


But the Social and Cultural inputs are most certainly not the same anymore than the technology. There is no way...

~*~ patiently ~*~

... that you can say the same thing will happen. Since this is a political solution, all that you can do is pass it and then observe what will actually transpire. And even then fail, succeed, push, you can never fully attribute the legislation to that which occurs.

And there's no way you can say it won't happen.

I'm willing to fight for welfare reform.

It's a shame you're only willing to waive a white flag & surrender.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I didn't say, or imply that I could.


Just the opposite, in fact.


But I do know this, all government intervention in an economy always have unintended consequences that have to be addressed later. Political Economy is nothing more than a study in Bastiat's Broken Window fallacy; it focuses upon an immediate solution to an imagined problem but cannot possibly anticipate the long-term effects of hiring the glazier...

Don't get mad bro!
I don't like bad news!
Bearing it is worse!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

In the last "victory" over welfare reform...



How long before your fighters for it started pulling on its Irish Pennants to do things such as win elections and win the right to put the whole damned thing back in place?

He's right bro!
You're the new
face of evil!
You hate the poor!