They will never give up their guns.

[neci]

How do We keep our Children safe?

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

How do We keep our Children safe?

Don't have any.

 

[phrodeau]

Arm them.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

If you live in Chicago, move.

 

[neci]

you want bullet proof walls.

 

[OjosMojo]

Pimp them your unicorn farts.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

It's doable. Guns are just a tiny part of it tho. Got Drano under your sink?

 

[HerPuppy]

Growing up in a culture where there were strict gun laws and very few guns I can safely say not having guns is safer than having everyone armed with firearms. Using guns to defend yourself and your family is a bad idea because you have guns that anyone can access, and if you say I keep mine in a safe then it's not for defence at all. Unless you partake in a shooting sport or hunting then clearly there is no need for guns.

Now in saying this I am also following it up with this statement. This is my opinion, it is based on logic and the care for human life. No one person should choose who lives and who dies. And that's just what using guns for defence is.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Growing up in a culture where there were strict gun laws and very few guns I can safely say not having guns is safer than having everyone armed with firearms. Using guns to defend yourself and your family is a bad idea because you have guns that anyone can access, and if you say I keep mine in a safe then it's not for defence at all. Unless you partake in a shooting sport or hunting then clearly there is no need for guns.

Now in saying this I am also following it up with this statement. This is my opinion, it is based on logic and the care for human life. No one person should choose who lives and who dies. And that's just what using guns for defence is.

How about a single judge bench trial in a capital crime?

 

[FGB]

How do We keep our Children safe?

I read a lot of things including history,prehistory& just such a large amount of publications to be unnamble and watch all kinds of documentaries about our world and what goes on in it.

I also read the "Bible" and it's interpretations.

I can tell you that there is not now, never has been,and never will be a way to keep your children completely safe.

That is a delusion put forth by people in complete denial or who are just plain Ignorant.

If there was no a gun on earth as in the past there was not, you still could not keep them completely safe.

One protects them as best as one can.

 

[HerPuppy]

How about a single judge bench trial in a capital crime?

A judge has been qualified to trial their peers and other humans, clearly i see your point in the argument but due to that being their Job its not really the same.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

A judge has been qualified to trial their peers and other humans, clearly i see your point in the argument but due to that being their Job its not really the same.

You said:

No one person should choose who lives and who dies.

So, some people can decide who lives and dies?

You also said:

Unless you partake in a shooting sport or hunting then clearly there is no need for guns

You contradicted your own statement. Either there is a use for guns, or there isn't. It can't be both.

 

[HerPuppy]

So, some people can decide who lives and dies?

What backwards ass country lets a judge choose a life? and i forgot how anal people can be about this gun bullshit. and i still stand by " No one should decide who lives and dies"

You contradicted your own statement. Either there is a use for guns, or there isn't. It can't be both.

How is that contradicting? I'm stating that having guns for DEFENCE is stupid as shit, but if a person owns a gun and DOESN'T use it for defence but uses it for hunting then fair enough as long as they are declared competent in using, storing and handling firearms.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

What backwards ass country lets a judge choose a life? and i forgot how anal people can be about this gun bullshit. and i still stand by " No one should decide who lives and dies"




How is that contradicting? I'm stating that having guns for DEFENCE is stupid as shit, but if a person owns a gun and DOESN'T use it for defence but uses it for hunting then fair enough as long as they are declared competent in using, storing and handling firearms.

Are you spelling it wrong or are you another fucking Brit?

 

[neci]

pew! pew!

the plastic guns and kids running across lawns freaks me out the most.

that could become duck hunt.

 

[HerPuppy]

Are you spelling it wrong or are you another fucking Brit?

Haha no spelling mistakes there Hun. you must be a yank. yet i am no brit.

 

[richard_daily]

Cry about it.

 

[richard_daily]

Now in saying this I am also following it up with this statement. This is my opinion, it is based on logic and the care for human life. No one person should choose who lives and who dies. And that's just what using guns for defence is.

If someone is about to stab you, or a family member with a knife, should you expect them to stop and have a conversation with you about the philosophy behind pacifism with you?

Would you be ok with someone you care about being killed simply because you don't think it's your right to defend yourself or those you love?

 

[MarkoAaron]

It's amazing how people will blame an inanimate object, but not the people who perform the heinous acts.

9/11: People didn't blame the jets.
Boston Marathon Bombing: People didn't blame the bombs.
A shooting: Guns are the problem?

Why should law-abiding citizens, be disarmed? It doesn't matter how a law-abiding citizen chooses to use their firearm(s). Personal defense, hunting, shooting hobbyist, collector, etc.
Doesn't matter how YOU want them to use their firearm(s), they legally own them and have the right to choose.

If you have a problem with guns, then OK. You're not obligated to like them, but your opinion is yours, and yours alone. Don't complain if someone refuses to adhere to your opinionated beliefs.

 

[HerPuppy]

If someone is about to stab you, or a family member with a knife, should you expect them to stop and have a conversation with you about the philosophy behind pacifism with you?

Would you be ok with someone you care about being killed simply because you don't think it's your right to defend yourself or those you love?

Defending myself i would still not need a gun. and the bullshit "what if someone with a knife" story rarely turns to a real event. but if you must know how i would theoretically react to that situation i would defuse the situation either with a peaceful resolution using words, or disarm the aggressor if given the chance. I would not however shoot a man wielding a knife, seeing as my morals go against harming another who clearly is out matched. and anyone that says they would shoot them needs to seriously rethink their morals and possibly what life actually means to them.

 

[HerPuppy]

It's amazing how people will blame an inanimate object, but not the people who perform the heinous acts.

9/11: People didn't blame the jets.
Boston Marathon Bombing: People didn't blame the bombs.
A shooting: Guns are the problem?

Why should law-abiding citizens, be disarmed? It doesn't matter how a law-abiding citizen chooses to use their firearm(s). Personal defense, hunting, shooting hobbyist, collector, etc.
Doesn't matter how YOU want them to use their firearm(s), they legally own them and have the right to choose.

If you have a problem with guns, then OK. You're not obligated to like them, but your opinion is yours, and yours alone. Don't complain if someone refuses to adhere to your opinionated beliefs.

Great point mark. A lot do overlook how mentally stable people are and how easily even the most calm individual can become aggressive.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Defending myself i would still not need a gun. and the bullshit "what if someone with a knife" story rarely turns to a real event. but if you must know how i would theoretically react to that situation i would defuse the situation either with a peaceful resolution using words, or disarm the aggressor if given the chance. I would not however shoot a man wielding a knife, seeing as my morals go against harming another who clearly is out matched. and anyone that says they would shoot them needs to seriously rethink their morals and possibly what life actually means to them.

It's morally acceptable to harm someone who is clearly not out matched?

 

[richard_daily]

Defending myself i would still not need a gun. and the bullshit "what if someone with a knife" story rarely turns to a real event. but if you must know how i would theoretically react to that situation i would defuse the situation either with a peaceful resolution using words, or disarm the aggressor if given the chance. I would not however shoot a man wielding a knife, seeing as my morals go against harming another who clearly is out matched. and anyone that says they would shoot them needs to seriously rethink their morals and possibly what life actually means to them.

I have had a knife pulled on me twice. I know several people who have been stabbed. A good friend of mine almost died after multiple dudes jumped him and one hit him in the head with a pipe.

Good luck living in your fantasy world, where someone who wants to rob you or attack you will be able to be "talked to" and you'll come to some sort of peaceful resolution.

I don't need to rethink my morals at all. You are comfortable giving your life (or the life of a loved one) for your pacifism. I find that honorable. I'm not willing to do that, and there's no dishonor in that.

If you want to get judgmental about it, then we'll have an issue, and I'll tell you to go fuck yourself. If not, then we can agree to disagree.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I have had a knife pulled on me twice. I know several people who have been stabbed. A good friend of mine almost died after multiple dudes jumped him and one hit him in the head with a pipe.

Good luck living in your fantasy world, where someone who wants to rob you will be able to be "talked to" and you'll come to some sort of peaceful resolution.

I don't need to rethink my morals at all. You are comfortable giving your life (or the life of a loved one) for your pacifism. I find that honorable. I'm not willing to do that, and there's no dishonor in that.

If you want to get judgmental about it, then we'll have an issue, and I'll tell you to go fuck yourself. If not, then we can agree to disagree.

By women, no doubt.

 

[richard_daily]

By women, no doubt.

You're still not a woman.