They never give up

rgraham666

Literotica Guru
Joined
Feb 19, 2004
Posts
43,689
I just read this article.

I never touch the stuff myself. But come on! This is something from 70 years ago. Nobody believes this shit anymore.
 
http://bestsmileys.com/lol/2.gif

I first smoked pot when I was around 12, and smoked it pretty much steadily up until maybe eight or nine years ago.

I have never, in all those years, suffered from paranoid delusions or hallucinations simply from smoking a joint.

What a load of crap.
 
cloudy said:
http://bestsmileys.com/lol/2.gif

I first smoked pot when I was around 12, and smoked it pretty much steadily up until maybe eight or nine years ago.

I have never, in all those years, suffered from paranoid delusions or hallucinations simply from smoking a joint.

What a load of crap.
What is it like to smoke pot?...or to smoke in general?
 
cloudy said:
http://bestsmileys.com/lol/2.gif

I first smoked pot when I was around 12, and smoked it pretty much steadily up until maybe eight or nine years ago.

I have never, in all those years, suffered from paranoid delusions or hallucinations simply from smoking a joint.

What a load of crap.

I did during the only time I got high, but I attribute it to my reaction to being under the influence as it were. I hate being out of control, not knowing what was going to happen next and that was my experience then. The marijuana didn't make me paranoid. I did.

I do agree with Rob's insightful analysis.
 
Only once

I only tried pot once and didn't do a thing for me. Too many other highs in life .

Sunrise, sunsets, since no two are alike. A baby's smile. Finishing a project and knowing you did a wonderful job.

These things make me high
 
glynndah said:
I did during the only time I got high, but I attribute it to my reaction to being under the influence as it were. I hate being out of control, not knowing what was going to happen next and that was my experience then. The marijuana didn't make me paranoid. I did.

I do agree with Rob's insightful analysis.

That's basically why I stopped smoking the stuff.

I have a low tolerance for THC. A couple of tokes and I'm drooling. You could toss a hand grenade with the pin pulled in my lap and my only reaction would be "Oh wow. I'm fucked." with a silly grin on my face.

Kinda scary.

It's also why I don't drink to excess any more. That and being married to an alcoholic.
 
cloudy said:
http://bestsmileys.com/lol/2.gif

I first smoked pot when I was around 12, and smoked it pretty much steadily up until maybe eight or nine years ago.

I have never, in all those years, suffered from paranoid delusions or hallucinations simply from smoking a joint.

What a load of crap.

Not necessarily. Don't know the details of this study (could be problems with definitions, protocol, etc.) For most people there should be no problems, but in a person who is already a bit paranoid or has a certain level of psychiatric vulnerability, it could make them more paranoid or be the trigger that pushes them to psychosis. I knew a guy who smoked a lot of strong pot one day - ended up in a psychotic break and had to be hospitalized (to my knowledge he didn't mixed other drugs in, probably alcohol though).
 
I'll never know how, but somehow I managed to graduate, with honors no less, while spending probably 30% of my college time stoned.

:D
 
rgraham666 said:
That's basically why I stopped smoking the stuff.

I have a low tolerance for THC. A couple of tokes and I'm drooling. You could toss a hand grenade with the pin pulled in my lap and my only reaction would be "Oh wow. I'm fucked." with a silly grin on my face.

Kinda scary.

It's also why I don't drink to excess any more. That and being married to an alcoholic.

No silly grin for me. I was in total "this isn't right, this isn't happening, they're all out to get me, I have to get out of here right now" paranoia. I spent the entire John Prine concert, hands white-knuckled on the chair's arms, entire body tensed and ready to flee, waiting for it (the drug's effects,) to be over.

I missed a really great concert, too.
 
This is going to come as a bit of a shocker, but... the article's not that far out. I've smoked pot for around 10 years, and although I've never experienced any unpleasant mental health side effects, I've known several people who have.

From what I can gather, if there's an underlying problem there, heavy weed use can bring it to the surface.

The paranoia thing comes from an increased sensitivity to patterns. I used to use it for all my Literature essays, especially when I was dealing with works that were heavy on the symbolism. Smoking weed and thinking deeply about what you're reading is almost like seeing through the Matrix.

In everyday situations it can be less useful:

You've just smoked a joint and are walking down a quiet street. A police car passes, which is unusual. A couple of minutes later another police car passes. By the time the third one passes a pattern emerges. Police cars aren't usually seen on this street. In the space of 3 minutes you've been passed by three. You've been breaking the law... 1+1=3

As far as anxiety attacks go, it's caused by the fact that weed can make your heart race, and that your chest is bound to be slightly tighter after inhaling the smoke.

I'm more concerned by the current trend of mixing pieces of ground glass and plastic up with the weed to make it weigh more. It happened last summer when the hot weather ruined lots of crops, and it'll probably happen again this year.

I don't like the approach of the article, but at the same time, even though I'm probably the biggest space cadet of the AH, I have to admit that there's a grain of truth in it.

Like most things in life, moderation is the key. There are some people who unwind to a glass of wine, others to a cigar or cigarette, and others who take the edge off the day with food, or sex, or adrenaline sports, or prescription drugs. We all rely on something, and I don't see how weed is any different.
 
Okay, this is the time to mention the 2004 movie Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle. Keep your expectations low and you'll have a good time, man.
 
Paranoia is something that protects you sometime

I have to disagree. I am now sixty and I have smoked an average of an oz a week for the last forty years. I don’t think that I am any the worst for wear and tear on the old brain.

I get high with my breakfast roll every morning and smoke through out the day. I find that I can do my job while I am stoned so I do.

I would be temped to think that this is just one more deal where the government is trying to influence us into doing something they want. Think weapons of mass destruction when you listen to these experts telling us what the ‘truth’ is then go with what feels right to you.

If I get a sense of paranoia when I am smoking, I stop and face the fact that I am living in a police state and Paranoia while you are breaking the law is a good thing. I feel paranoid when I am walking through a snaky place where the weeds are too high to see very well. Both are protective measures that are well founded in fact.

Just the thoughts of an old hippy.
mikey
 
:eek:

Am I the only here who doesn't smoke at all? Even cigarettes?

And why hasn't anyone answered me what it's like to smoke? :mad:
 
It's almost like asking a holy-roller about the bible

FatDino said:
What is it like to smoke pot?...or to smoke in general?

I do wish that you lived close by. I would gladly stake you to enough to let you see for yourself what you are missing. If you ever find yourself near Tallahassee Fla. send me an email and I will answer all your questions.
mikey
 
FatDino said:
:eek:

Am I the only here who doesn't smoke at all? Even cigarettes?

And why hasn't anyone answered me what it's like to smoke? :mad:
Sorry I can't help much here. Every time I tried smoking it, I didn't get high. I got a migraine. The only time I did get high was through another classic method of ingestion: brownies.
 
It's not that far fetched. Remember, Mary Jane has bulked up in potency over the years. Growin' bubblegum for the weak market, M39 for the stronger, and Freezeland for the psychotic has it's reasons. Let's not even mention hydro. You can badtrip. Some of the crystal-strewn dank will feel like droppin' LSD. Moderate as you would the liquor. Know your limits and fly within. Legalize.
 
FatDino said:
:eek:

Am I the only here who doesn't smoke at all? Even cigarettes?

And why hasn't anyone answered me what it's like to smoke? :mad:

It depends on what your smoking. Different types of weed have different effects. Strains that are heavy on the sativa make you lively and chatty, indico strains dope you out. Some mess up your sense of balance. Others make you super productive.

Usually, though, you get a mild sense of euphoria, and feel relaxed. It can take about 20 minutes to kick in if you smoke it, longer if you eat it.

I'm a creative stoner - I smoke just enough to get absorbed in some artistic project, then stop. Other stoners smoke to get absolutely off their faces.

When you've overindulged you don't have the energy to move. Sometimes you get the spins and feel the blood draining from your face. In extreme cases you can break out into a cold sweat, because your blood pressure drops. Worst case scenario is that you either throw up or pass out. Either way, it's nowhere near as severe as overindulging on alcohol, and it passes in about 20 minutes.

Weed also gives you the munchies... and the other effect is extreme horniness. At least it is with me, anyway :eek: Smoking during the day is lethal for me, because it turns me into a 6-8 a day girl, which means I'm maybe not as productive as I should be.

Getting the giggles is another cool side effect. Seeing something really bizarre can send you into fits of laughter for a long time. As you start coming down it's really easy to become absorbed in something and lose all track of time.

There's also the stoner's timewarp. Sometimes you think that hours and hours have passed, when really it's only about 20 minutes.

Does that answer your question?
 
FatDino said:
What is it like to smoke pot?...or to smoke in general?

OK. I'll answer.

Smoking pot is, for me, hard on the throat. Another reason I don't do it.

The effect is two fold. First the world gets rather distant. It's sort of like that camera trick in movies where the character in the shot doesn't move but the background does. Everything in the outside world moves away from me.

At the same time I get happily giddy. I'll admit, I giggle and laugh a lot when I'm under the influence.

I can't say what it's like to smoke cigarettes as I smoke a pipe. Smoking a pipe is done in the same manner as you drink something through a straw. It goes into your mouth first. However I don't draw it into my lungs, I just blow the smoke out again. I smoke for the taste not the nicotine.

What does it taste like? Uhm, pipe tobacco. I can't do better than that. How do you describe the taste of an apple to someone that's never eaten an apple?
 
Okay, lots of answers, I have received. For those, I thank you. :kiss:

(I'm practicing Yodish talk. :D)
 
cloudy said:
I have never, in all those years, suffered from paranoid delusions or hallucinations simply from smoking a joint.
When i smoked my first joint, I suffered rfrom paranoid delusiions that the coppers would come and get me, lock me up and throw away the key.

Cause that's what I'd been told by the nanny state I grew up in.

I felt like such a rebel for ten minutes, until I realized that nobody gave a shit and that the resident security guards were also lighting up.

It was also one of the last time I smoked a joint, because it did absolutely nothing for me. Two beers gives me a more pleasant buzz. Plus, it tastes better.
 
Hey Rob, speaking of joints, you don't happen to have seen what just happened in your hood? ;)

------------

About 20,000 marchers smoke up for freer pot laws

Some 20,000 marijuana advocates blew smoke on the lawn of Queen's Park and puffed away as they marched the streets of Toronto on Saturday.

The participants, taking part in the ninth annual Global Marijuana March being held in 232 cities, rallied to promote the legalization of pot in Canada.

Police watched the peaceful event, whose parade marshal was Marc Emery, the British Columbia resident nicknamed Canada's "Prince of Pot."

"It's incredible that 20,000 people are meeting only 100 yards from the legislature to demand that marijuana be legalized, to celebrate our culture and to defy the law with almost open sanction of the entire City of Toronto," he said.

Emery is in trouble with United States law enforcement agencies for selling marijuana seeds over the Internet. He faces extradition to stand trial on a number of criminal matters.

Toronto's rally almost doubled in size this year, as about 12,000 residents openly smoked up during last year's event.

"This is obviously its largest," said organizer Neev Tapiro.

Tapiro said the movement for freer marijuana laws has support in high places.

"One of the positive lights is Senator Larry Campbell, who's a wonderful, intelligent advocate of legalization," Tapiro said.

Organizers said the annual event in Canada continues to grow because the majority of Canadians believe pot laws should be relaxed.

Pot walk participants also spread the message that the demonized marijuana plant can do much more than just get people high.

"I have arthritis so it alleviates the pain," said one man named Dennis. "I don't get (the pain) very often because (the marijuana is) better than ordinary medication they prescribe."
 
The stuff I smoked as a kid, compared with the stuff kids smoke now, is like beer compared to whisky. It's like kids are drinking a couple of bottles of whisky everyday. I can easily believe that it fucks up your head.
 
FatDino said:
:eek:

Am I the only here who doesn't smoke at all? Even cigarettes?

And why hasn't anyone answered me what it's like to smoke? :mad:

I've never smoked anything either. No cigarettes, not cigars, no pot, no crack. Nothing. I don't even drink, or take over the counter medications. I'm as straigh edge as you can be while still eating meat and not being a total asshole.

__

However, I'm as paranoid as all fuck. I size up everyone I see as a threat or not, I watch the traffic around me searching out who could be following me, I make sure that I always have a strategy for defending myself if things turn to shit around me.

None of that is needed. No one is out to get me. No one is following me. No one starts a fight with me ever. I'm just completely paranoid for no reason.
 
My question would be...

If you get both of the drugs when you smoke - (cbc and thc) - then why only give someone thc? and how much thc did they give them?

It would appear that the study has found that the cbc has the calming, relaxing effect that everyone wants from pot, so why not grow pot with more cbc in it than thc.

I have smoked the stuff in the past...personally I didn't like the way it made me feel so I haven't touched the stuff in over 30 years.
 
FatDino said:
:eek:

Am I the only here who doesn't smoke at all? Even cigarettes?

And why hasn't anyone answered me what it's like to smoke? :mad:

I don't either. Any kind of smoke is likely to give me a headache and potentially a migraine. I do find that if I write for about three hours straight I get a kind of runner's high. :D
 
Back
Top