These Colors Don't Run

[onceburned]

In the UK this weekend, the British military will march in the Manchester Gay Pride Parade. Its their way of trying to boost recruitment of gays and lesbians into the military.

Should the American military, which currently bans openly gay and lesbian military members, also openly recruit gays and lesbians? At least one study has indicated that if the policy of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was ditched, there would be no recruitment shortfall for the American military (a problem that has been looming due to the war in Iraq).

I figure that it would be a good start to stop the persecution of gay and lesbian military members. After all, 10,000 have been ejected from the U.S. military in the past 10 years. But should a new policy of tolerance go further?

 

[LemonClover]

I think the should try to recrout the best people they can find regardless of their sexuality.

BTW...Canada just had it's first Gay military wedding a few weeks ago. Two male members of the military tied the knot on a base in Nova Scotia.

 

[Queersetti]

I think the military should not only allows gays and lesbians to serve, it should actively work to encourage them to serve.

History shows us that the U.S. military can be an agent for advancing equality. Truman's desegregation of the armed forces was a major turning point in the struggle for racial equality.

 

[BDisaster]

i think its fucking rediculous to have some dont ask dont tell thing in our military. how dare we ask men and women that die for us to hide who they really are.

As much as I love Hilary... Fuck Clinton

 

[revolution724]

What, no option for "fuck the military"?

Yes, yes, let's march in the streets for the right to shoot people. Yay us. No, thanks.

 

[yoshimitsu]

Yeah I say screw the military.
I don't think their asses deserve getting shot at any more than any one elses.
Of course if they were more open to those things there would probably be more happy soldiers out there.
I did just get a great idea though. If I ever got drafted it would probably help my cause to set up a photo shoot with some hot guy getting as dirty as imagineable and take the photos in and throw them on the desk of recruiter.
Pull down my pants so he could see the cum running down my ass.
Nah I don't want to go to jail.

 

[Harrowborg]

I thought the US navy already openly recruited gay service personnel? hence the YMCA song?

 

[yoshimitsu]

The YMCA song is about the young masochistic christians of america or whatever TF their called. I don't know of any conection to the military, Their might be though, I never looked into it too much.

 

[Harrowborg]

lol my mistake, think i meant the 'in the navy' song by the same band.

 

[markythesaint]

As a pround mancunian....

We are hppy to have any gay lesbian transexual serve in any of our regimants!! Being the manchester regimant has never been defeated we would be happy to ensure it lives on as a progressive and hate slaying entity.

 

[madmanmike]

KEEP THE QUEERS AND THE DYKES OUT OF THE MILITARY.








that way i can use it to stay out of a draft. just be blatant and out as hell when you go to the office. im talking flaming gay. like the gay guy in revenge of the nerds gay. im talking so gay it oozes out of you.

 

[bisexplicit]

I'm certainly for equal rights for the GLBT community, and one of those rights is to be in the armed forces - and still be allowed to be proud of their sexuality.

 

[DarkAurora]

i think its fucking rediculous to have some dont ask dont tell thing in our military. how dare we ask men and women that die for us to hide who they really are.

As much as I love Hilary... Fuck Clinton

Learn your history. Bill Clinton openly stood up for the rights of gays and lesbians during his first presidential campaign. He tried to get the military to remove thier ban of gays and lesbians and the military absoleutly refused, so they came up with this compromise. The "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy is shitty but it's still better than the policy that was in place before it.

 

[Elmer Keith]

These colors don't run

They swish...lol...Why would a gay or lesbian join the military?

 

[Queersetti]

Yeah I say screw the military.
I don't think their asses deserve getting shot at any more than any one elses.
Of course if they were more open to those things there would probably be more happy soldiers out there.
I did just get a great idea though. If I ever got drafted it would probably help my cause to set up a photo shoot with some hot guy getting as dirty as imagineable and take the photos in and throw them on the desk of recruiter.
Pull down my pants so he could see the cum running down my ass.
Nah I don't want to go to jail.

I suspect that if they did reinstate the draft, millions of young Americans would suddenly discover they were , at least temporarily, gay.

 

[Queersetti]

Learn your history. Bill Clinton openly stood up for the rights of gays and lesbians during his first presidential campaign. He tried to get the military to remove thier ban of gays and lesbians and the military absoleutly refused, so they came up with this compromise. The "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy is shitty but it's still better than the policy that was in place before it.

Specifically, Colin Powell threatened to resign from the Joint Chiefs if gays were allowed to serve openly.

 

[Queersetti]

They swish...lol...Why would a gay or lesbian join the military?

That would be a good question to ask the thousands who have.

 

[Elmer Keith]

That would be a good question to ask the thousands who have.

Okay, maybe a couple are here. (BTW, to keep this friendly, your source?)

 

[Sallad]

I have absolutely no problem with gays serving. I think it would be wonderful if a person could live as who they truly are while making the ultimate sacrifice (it's only fair, right?).

The ONLY problem I can POSSIBLY see is that maybe (and I REALLY doubt this is it) it's the whole "locker room" theory. Men and women don't share locker rooms to: 1) minimize humiliation, and 2) minimize faternazation (sorry sp) of the opposite sexes. Men who are attracted to women shouldn't be in women's locker rooms and maybe men who are attracted to men shouldn't be in men's locker rooms (yadda, yadda, yadda) or something.

I'm not defending it...it's just a thought.

 

[Hooper_X]

The military (and the navy) is crawling with lesbians and there are also a fair amount of gay males. This has always been the case and will continue to be so. It would be nice if this society wasn't so hypocritical about this issue.

 

[Queersetti]

Okay, maybe a couple are here. (BTW, to keep this friendly, your source?)

I apply simple common sense to the matter. Throughout American history, the vast majority of homosexuals have been deeply closeted. Surely, logic would insist that, among the millions of Americans who hace served in the armed forces, many thousands were gay. More than 16 millions Americans served during World War Two alone, if only 1% of them were gay, that would be 160,000.

 

[kbate]

It is simply stupid to think that a gay man or a gay woman would bring sex into the foxhole any faster than a straight man and straight woman. It is also ridiculous to assume that gay men would attempt to have sex with straight men, they don't do it in normal life (often) why would they do it in combat.

As Queersetti pointed out, many gays have served in the armed forces and with honor and valour, both in time of war and in peacetime. Sexual preference has little to do with ability to operate a rifle a tank or a computer.

There are some valid concerns about HIV/AIDS and the military, and with the Veterans Administration Hospital system should the disease become prevalent among soldiers.

 

[Hooper_X]

There are some valid concerns about HIV/AIDS and the military, and with the Veterans Administration Hospital system should the disease become prevalent among soldiers.

I don't see how this concern would be increased by the open inclusion of gays and lesbians over and above the risk posed by the general military penchant for fucking every $2 hooker and emotionally unbalanced gang-bang-friendly slut that crosses their path.

 

[Sallad]

It is simply stupid to think that a gay man or a gay woman would bring sex into the foxhole any faster than a straight man and straight woman. It is also ridiculous to assume that gay men would attempt to have sex with straight men, they don't do it in normal life (often) why would they do it in combat.

As Queersetti pointed out, many gays have served in the armed forces and with honor and valour, both in time of war and in peacetime. Sexual preference has little to do with ability to operate a rifle a tank or a computer.

There are some valid concerns about HIV/AIDS and the military, and with the Veterans Administration Hospital system should the disease become prevalent among soldiers.

Right...and I wasn't saying that it's a good reason, but maybe a silly reason someone would use.

 

[brw02]

For what it's worth, I would neither recruit nor discourage the G/L community for military service. I don't see a valid reason to be concerned about the recruit's marital status or sexual orientation. Anyone who wants to deny the presence of gay/lesbians in the military is naive. If all of the gay nurses and clerks were discharged, the military would grind to a halt.