There's no turd that steams as hot as the Heritage Foundation turd

[mercury14]

Immigration reform will cost us $6.3 trillion according to the Heritage foundation. Let's look at some of their assumptions they use to get to this brilliant conclusion:


1) 100% of undocumented immigrants will become US citizens whether they want to or not.

2) 100% of undocumented immigrants will receive government services for 50 years.

3) 0% of undocumented immigrants get any job training or increased job access that would increase their pay.

4) 0% of undocumented immigrants will get an education that would increase their pay.

5) Gaining legal status will not amount to a significant increase in pay, even though it's well-researched that legalization boosts pay significantly. Heritage then uses the assumption of virtually no bump in pay in their government assistance calculation. Specifically SS, Medicare, worker's comp, Medicaid, SNAP, TANF, EIC, housing, and SSI/SSDI are all caluculated with the assumption that legalization will lead to no bump in pay, opportunity, or education for even a single immigrant.

6) Heritage essentially assumes Obamacare is repealed and that immigrants who become citizens will not have increased health care access through employers or exchanges.


Patriot Math baby! It's only the headline that matters!


Source: The Heritage Foundation

 

[Busybody]

, even though it's well-researched that legalization boosts pay significantly. ]

By whom?

Show us the research

We got time

We'll wait

 

[Busybody]

By whom?

Show us the research

We got time

We'll wait

waiting

 

[mercury14]

By whom?

Show us the research

We got time

We'll wait

By a private research firm hired by the Dept of Labor.

Legalized workers earn more and move on to better jobs

Surveys conducted by Westat, Inc. for the U.S. Department of Labor found that the real hourly wages of immigrants who acquired legal status under IRCA’s general legalization program had increased an average of 15.1 percent by 1992—four to five years after legalization in 1987 or 1988. Men experienced an average 13.2 percent wage increase and women a 20.5 percent increase during that period. And economists Sherrie Kossoudji and Deborah Cobb-Clark found using the same survey data that 38.8 percent of Mexican men who received legal status under IRCA had moved on to higher-paying occupations by 1992. [25]

 

[Busybody]

1992


Center For American Progress


Bugs Bunny wasn't available for comment

 

[Busybody]

STFU with these BULLSHIT

"research"


Center for American Progress


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Center for American Progress is a progressive public policy research and advocacy organization. Its website states that the organization is "dedicated to improving the lives of Americans through progressive ideas and action".[2] The Center presents a liberal[3] viewpoint on economic issues. It has its headquarters in Washington, D.C.[4]

Its President and chief executive officer is Neera Tanden, who worked for the Obama and Clinton administrations and for Hillary Clinton’s campaigns.[5] Its first President and chief executive officer was John Podesta, who served as chief of staff to then U.S. President Bill Clinton. Podesta remains with the organization as chairman of the board. The Center for American Progress has a campus outreach group, Campus Progress, and a sister advocacy organization, the Center for American Progress Action Fund

 

[Busybody]

You DISPARAGE one study

You ACCEPT another

STFU, WITH YOUR NONSENSE

 

[mercury14]

1992


Center For American Progress


Bugs Bunny wasn't available for comment

No, the research was done by Westat Inc, a well-respected international researching firm.

www.westat.com

 

[mercury14]

The Center for American progress did their own research and came up with a 10.1 increase in pay. Independent analysis says 15.1%

 

[Busybody]

respected BY WHOM?


study done in 1992

 

[mercury14]

You DISPARAGE one study

You ACCEPT another

STFU, WITH YOUR NONSENSE

Heritage didn't do any research. They did Patriot Math in order to generate political opposition to immigration reform.

 

[mercury14]

respected BY WHOM?


study done in 1992

And their study was done on the immediate results of Reagan's immigration reform when the data was still fresh. Do you think it would be more valid today to ask circa-1990 immigrants what their increase in pay was 20+ years ago?

 

[Busybody]

And their study was done on the immediate results of Reagan's immigration reform when the data was still fresh. Do you think it would be more valid today to ask circa-1990 immigrants what their increase in pay was 20+ years ago?

what was done 20 yrs ago


is meaningless today

 

[Busybody]

Heritage didn't do any research. They did Patriot Math in order to generate political opposition to immigration reform.

so far they have been 100% correct with ObamaCare for instance


PATRIOT MATH is good

OBAMA MATH is bad

 

[mercury14]

so far they have been 100% correct with ObamaCare for instance

Heritage's prediction on Obamacare was that it wouldn't exist in 2013 after being ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. According to Patriot Math that prediction was 100% accurate though.

 

[Busybody]

PATRIOT MATH is GOOD

ObamaMath is bad


deal with it

 

[mercury14]

PATRIOT MATH is GOOD

ObamaMath is bad


deal with it

Mitt Romney's economic plan basically didn't have any numbers in it.

Patriot Math!

 

[richard_daily]

Mitt Romney's economic plan basically didn't have any numbers in it.

Patriot Math!

Why do you talk to the dumbbot?

 

[Busybody]

Mitt Romney's economic plan basically didn't have any numbers in it.

Patriot Math!

would have been 100% better then ObamaNomicks

 

[phrodeau]

would have been 100% better then ObamaNomicks

The only advantage Romney's plan would have had, is that you wouldn't be bitching about it.

 

[Squibbs]

Why bother talking to busyshit?

Its a fucking retard, nothing more. We already know what it will say.

It deserves a .45 to the back of its skull.

I want to slap you fucks.

 

[bronzeage]

Why bother talking to busyshit?

Its a fucking retard, nothing more. We already know what it will say.

It deserves a .45 to the back of its skull.

I want to slap you fucks.

Violence is not the answer. In any case, your bullet would not hit a vital organ.

 

[Squibbs]

Violence is not the answer. In any case, your bullet would not hit a vital organ.

A bullet in the back of his head would most likely take out vettemans balls that are lodged in his mouth.

 

[CHNOPS]

A bullet in the back of his head would most likely take out vettemans balls that are lodged in his mouth.

It may even go all the way through to Koala's nose.

 

[Disgustipated]

Violence is not the answer. In any case, your bullet would not hit a vital organ.

A bullet in the back of his head would most likely take out vettemans balls that are lodged in his mouth.

It may even go all the way through to Koala's nose.

Best exchange here in a long time. Well done.