"there is no racism in football" Sepp Blatter or Luis Suárez

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take a look at the team photo, below, Its Liverpool FC. Luis Suárez has today been given an 8 match ban and a £40,000 fine for racist taunts...... Liverpool FC are supporting Luis Suárez......

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/uploads/downloads/squad_1024x768.jpg

Liverpool players declare support for 'our friend' Luis Suárez

Suárez received an eight-match ban plus a £40,000 fine from the Football Association on Tuesday, having been found guilty by an independent regulatory commission of racially abusing the Manchester United defender at Anfield on 15 October. The punishment, suspended pending an anticipated appeal by Liverpool, prompted an astonishing outburst from the Anfield club, who vowed to clear the striker's name, called for Evra to be charged with abusing their player and accused the FA of targeting the Uruguay international from the outset. The FA has not responded to the challenge to its integrity from Liverpool, or the call to charge Evra, and United are also maintaining a silence on Liverpool's criticism of their defender.

Liverpool racist? nah they only hate humans.

Sepp Blatter?

 

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ok so maybe it's a bit deep for lits inhouse racists, the shock horror brigade.... but spot the dark skinned type in the Verminpool fc team picture....


or maybe......

Were Liverpool's Luis Suárez T-shirts distasteful?
This week the Liverpool team wore T-shirts of Luis Suárez before their match against Wigan to express support for the striker who was ruled to have racially abused Patrice Evra, a finding he contests. Was this gesture wrong?​

from http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/poll/2011/dec/22/liverpool-luis-suarez-t-shirts?newsfeed=true

First reply...
"or those people who have said that suarez must have known what he said was racist because he has played football in europe for 5 years,

well alan hanson was born and lived in the uk for 50 odd years and even he without realizing said coloured twice which is regarded as offensive to black people, so you can see that suarez could be telling the truth. its a perfect example"
Hanson played for the vermin..so ni bias there then.

Liverpool was built on the back of the slave trade, nothing much changes.

 

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What happened to all the white English people in the English Premier League?

 

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Liverpool reaction as shocking as Suarez ban


The response to the FA's decision to ban Luis Suarez for eight matches has been unsurprisingly partisan.


I felt sorry for John Barnes, who was asked to give his view on something close to his heart on two, opposing, fronts: on the one hand as a Liverpool legend who remains close to the club, but on the other as a victim of terrible racist abuse as a player.

As a result, his comments were contradictory: he accused the FA and media of conducting a "witch hunt" against Suarez, before admitting that a zero-tolerance policy to racism should be followed.

I would hate to be put in his position by, say, a Manchester United or QPR player being in the dock for a similar offence.

So I am going to try and be balanced.

To be honest I was shocked that Suarez got eight games on the word of another player for something that, while wrong, appears to have been out of ignorance rather than malice.

But, at the same time, I was disappointed by how vehemently Liverpool have leapt to the defence of their player, claiming conspiracies and getting their players to wear t-shirts and the rest of it.

Talking about the ban, I find it odd that firstly someone can be punished on one man's word against his — we are yet to see the report, so we don't know if Suarez admitted to using the offending word, but I have a feeling that he must have done. He told the Uruguayan media that he addressed Evra using a specific word, one that is assumed is a variation on the n-word, but with less offensive connotations in parts of Latin America, if you believe what people have been saying.

I also find it surprising that, given there appears to be no video or even witness evidence, he should be banned so heavily for it.

If we were able to punish on one man's word, many moons ago we would have seen players banned for 20 games given the stuff that was said man-to-man. People used to say all kinds of nasty and sometimes racial stuff to put you off your game, although it's of great credit that it doesn't happen so much now.

I don't know the full context of what and how it was said, but the FA have made a decision that — given the rise in racist incidents recently — is in line with the blueprint they have set out, one over which they have criticised FIFA and UEFA for not following it stringently enough.

Personally I would have been in favour of a shorter ban, and perhaps the FA and club — and other clubs — organising a cultural awareness programme so that foreign players can never use the old "in my country..." line as an excuse for, say, racial terms, spitting, or flagrant diving. There's certainly enough money in the game to pay for a course, or lectures, on the matter!

But they have gone for a straight, draconian punishment that has also set a strong precedent, given the accusations against John Terry — although the fact that his incident was deemed so serious the police got involved ironically means the FA's hands are tied, for now at least.

But the way Liverpool have dealt with this hasn't been right.

I don't really buy this 'cultural differences' ploy that Suarez's supporters have tried to play. Firstly, I have yet to hear anything from a black South American player saying he's happy to be called 'negrito' or whatever Suarez is supposed to have said (this is the word Uruguayans have said is the term folk use that can cause offence in Europe).

Given that this forms the entire basis of the defence that his Uruguayan friends, such as Gus Poyet, have made, it would be interesting to hear if it is widely accepted as inoffensive, or if simply Uruguayan culture is a little bit behind the times in its use of such terms. Back when I was a player, in the '80s, QPR fans used to sing "he's small, he's black, he's England's centre-back" at me and I accepted it, although I wasn't totally comfortable with it — now that would be seen as unacceptable. Is the context different for this word Suarez reportedly used, or has Uruguay just been a little slow to catch up? Has anyone thought to ask what black people in Uruguay think about being called such words? Do they accept it because they feel they have no choice?

Also, people are making out that Suarez has an ignorance of how one is supposed to behave in Northern Europe, like he's just come off the boat or something. He hasn't — he spent five years in Holland (which, the last time I looked, is pretty well developed), including a season playing alongside Edgar Davids at Ajax.

Would he speak to Davids that way? Or Clarence Seedorf? Or any black Dutch player? I doubt it somehow, particularly given how annoyed a lot of Holland's black players have been in the past about perceived racial bias, let alone overt comments.

I'm also concerned by Liverpool's responses (and there have been many), making such big statements and using flawed logic to do so.

So he has black team-mates here and in Uruguay? So what. Plenty of racists work with black people in offices up and down the country.

And Patrice Evra has never made such allegations before — those allegations were made by other people, about abuse they believed had been directed at Evra. But Liverpool said Evra had made false allegations. Really dodgy ground, and that of the conspiracy theorist.

The t-shirts thing is a bit off too — getting the team to wear these t-shirts, when the guy has been punished for racial abuse (whatever the context or intent) is really weak when Liverpool are supposed to be at the forefront of the Kick It Out campaign.

Are we supposed to believe that all his team-mates support him because they're wearing a t-shirt? We know full well that, when fans are so vehement on a given subject, players stay clear of breaking the mould for fear of jeopardising their livelihoods.

I think the real reason Liverpool have chosen to support Suarez so vociferously is because he's their best player by a mile — and without Steven Gerrard, they look worryingly like a one-man team, one-dimensional without him.

Whatever happens, Evra will continue to be a hate figure among fans, because that's the way football works. People have seriously been claiming — Liverpool too — that he broke some unwritten rule by complaining about verbal abuse, which directly contradicts everyone's claims to be against racism. Are you in, or are you out? Do you think it's okay to make racial references to strangers, or do you think it's wrong? Or do you just think your man should be able to get away with it because he's good at football?

Everyone, and not just Liverpool, is eagerly awaiting the FA's full report on this — including no doubt the Court of Arbitration for Sport, UEFA and FIFA.

If it turns out the punishment was meted solely on the basis of one man's word against another, I would be very concerned and am sure an appeal to the FA or even CAS could see some kind of reduction to the ban.

But if — as has been suggested — Suarez admitted using a certain word, but explained that he was unaware it had racist overtones, then you have to support the FA's decision to punish him, but maybe question the length of the ban.

Otherwise all the talk about kicking racism out of football, all the criticism of the Spanish and Bulgarian fans for racist chanting, and all the barbs at Sepp Blatter will just have been hot air.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs...l-reaction-shocking-suarez-ban-180757076.html

 

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ok so maybe it's a bit deep for lits inhouse racists, the shock horror brigade.... but spot the dark skinned type in the Verminpool fc team picture....

Which racists do you want?

SeanH and Wok are Lits own White Supremacists and then you have rory and his Antiwhite/black power alts. Or LT/IZ that wants to exterminate whites.

So which ones would be best for this thread?

 

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Got onto twitter and check out @stancollymore. See his "favourites".

 

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That stuff you call football? Who knows what they do?

The only firm rule is "There is no crying in baseball."

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-n1Y-qF86u9k/TdFykrRVBwI/AAAAAAAAABQ/tF6LMEay28A/s1600/no+crying.jpg

 

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He should have tried rolling around on the pitch holding his shin and looking at the ref with puppy eyes.


That always works in soccer.

 

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He should have tried rolling around on the pitch holding his shin and looking at the ref with puppy eyes.


That always works in soccer.

unlike the game you guys play which seems to consist of standing around most of the time in sumo suits.

 

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unlike the game you guys play which seems to consist of standing around most of the time in sumo suits.

The sumo suits allows our players to play for many years before the brain damage is apparent.

 

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The sumo suits allows our players to play for many years before the brain damage is apparent.

really? what's the average age of an american footballer?

 

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unlike the game you guys play which seems to consist of standing around most of the time in sumo suits.

His game consists of hitting people over the head with wooden sticks, while standing on frozen water if I'm not mistaken.

 

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His game consists of hitting people over the head with wooden sticks, while standing on frozen water if I'm not mistaken.

Gotta keep sean amused hey

 

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really? what's the average age of an american footballer?

I don't know, but a good guess would be late 20's, for the pro's. By this time, a professional American football player has had at least one significant concussion and thousands of head impacts just short of a concussion. This kind of play starts in the mid teens. A serious concussion can leave permanent brain injury. The smaller impacts have a cumulative effect. Connective tissue in the brain deteriorates and when the player is in his 40's and 50's, the damage becomes apparent.

Football helmets protect against cuts, abrasions and skull fractures. They do little to protect the brain from high speed impacts.

 

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http://otrsportsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/BryanCarrasco.jpg

 

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http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/06/23/euro_cup_sniper_still_at_large.png

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4PqtlkT2L0&feature=player_embedded

 

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I don't know, but a good guess would be late 20's, for the pro's. By this time, a professional American football player has had at least one significant concussion and thousands of head impacts just short of a concussion. This kind of play starts in the mid teens. A serious concussion can leave permanent brain injury. The smaller impacts have a cumulative effect. Connective tissue in the brain deteriorates and when the player is in his 40's and 50's, the damage becomes apparent.

Football helmets protect against cuts, abrasions and skull fractures. They do little to protect the brain from high speed impacts.

most pro football players continue well into their 30s. there have been one or two who even internationally played into their 40s but that's pretty rare. Even rugby players are often in their 30s, but probably not late 30s. Way too much wear and tear for that.

 

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Liverpool apologise to Oldham defender Adeyemi as suspect is bailed by police

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...Liverpool-apologise-Tom-Adeyemi-race-row.html

 

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For balance.....

Stewart Downing arrested at bar
ENGLAND soccer star Stewart Downing was arrested on suspicion of assault following an incident outside a bar early yesterday.

The Liverpool midfielder, 27, was held at around 1am local time after becoming involved in a dispute with his ex-girlfriend, sources told the Daily Mail.

Police confirmed they were called to an incident outside the Cross Keys club in Yarm, near Middlesbrough, north-eastern England.

A police spokesman said, "A 27-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of assault and a 32-year-old woman has also been arrested on suspicion of assault. Both are in custody and inquiries are ongoing."

Downing, whose family is based in the area, began his career at Middlesbrough before moving to Liverpool following a two-year spell at Aston Villa.

He scored his first goal for the Reds when he rounded off the scoring in Friday night's 5-1 victory over Oldham in the FA Cup third round.

The game generated controversy after Oldham player Tom Adeyemi was apparently racially abused by a member of the home crowd at Anfield.

The incident came in the aftermath of Liverpool striker Luis Suarez's recent eight-match ban for using racial slurs against Manchester United defender Patrice Evra.


from http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/soccer/liverpool-star-arrested-at-bar/story-e6frfg8x-1226239519096