The writing of the new loving wife Movie "Deep Water"

[HowtoListenWell]

Hi i really want to debate over this movie and its writing, as you maybe know a few days ago a movie called "deep water" staring Ben Affleck and the beautiful Ana de Armas in a typical Loving Wife story was released.

I didn't read the book, but i was really interested at first when i saw the trailer, unfortunately the movie turned into a very bad 1 star cuckold story.

At first when i read the movie resume i thought it was a story about a couple trying an open marriage but the husband having a hard time with it, the movie was not that AT ALL, it was just a sad story about an extremely toxic marriage, with a wife cheating and humiliating her husband with 0 care like in the most shitty stereotypical cuckold story you can find here, there is absolutely no love felt between the characters even if they are saying it, they don't really talk to each other, they sleep in different bed... basically it's not erotic at all, it was supposed to be an erotic story but it's more weird and cringy then anything, you just feel a lot of discomfort over both characters, and let's not even talk about the "murders" which are also written like some shitty BTB story, no realism at all, the police find a guy dead and 2 people accuse the husband but no fucks given, they don't even take him to the police office for deeper questioning.


What's your opinion about it ?
PS : they should have adapted february sucks with the same actors, it would have been a major masterpiece.

 

[TadOverdon]

Well, the reviews make it sound somewhat interesting.

It's based on what seems to have been a well-received book by the author of Strangers on a Train and The Talented Mr. Ripley, Patricia Highsmith.

 

[other2other1]

I've seen the previews in adds but it sounds like I will avoid this one.

What's your opinion about it ?
PS : they should have adapted february sucks with the same actors, it would have been a major masterpiece.

This comment made me laugh, with all the FS versions out there, GA could get a Hollywood royalty out of his story, that would be interesting...

 

[MelissaBaby]

It seems like no one wants to debate, because everyone agrees it sucked.

 

[SimonDoom]

It's at 37% on Rotten Tomatoes with critics, and 22% with the audience, which is very bad. I probably will pass on this one.

 

[KeithD]

Or maybe there's not much discussion because this is a writing site, not a movie site. (Not that those who want to discuss movies instead of written stories shouldn't be able to do so here, of course.)

I do smile on how fast story discussions here frequently zip into movies instead.

 

[lovecraft68]

This is going to do for hotwife/cuck what Flowers in the Attic, Niptuck, Game of Thrones and other mainstream movies/shows did for Taboo....a bunch of people who report erotica and porn online, say things are "sick and disgusting' in public will watch it and go "ooh that's sick, but in all the right ways!"

Also, I love how this thing will garner all types of hate because the woman does as she pleases, but its always just fine when the husband is a piece of shit
The people this movie will upset deserve it

 

[lovecraft68]

It's at 37% on Rotten Tomatoes with critics, and 22% with the audience, which is very bad. I probably will pass on this one.

Anyone who bases what they watch or read on critics is a fool. Especially Rotten Tomatoes who most of their 'reviews' are based on political agenda.
If it looks interesting I watch, if it doesn't I don't.
I guess if a story has a bad score here you pass? Its the same mentality.

 

[SimonDoom]

Anyone who bases what they watch or read on critics is a fool. Especially Rotten Tomatoes who most of their 'reviews' are based on political agenda.
If it looks interesting I watch, if it doesn't I don't.
I guess if a story has a bad score here you pass? Its the same mentality.

I find that movies with very good Rotten Tomatoes scores are often not good. But the converse is rarely true. If a movie has a really terrible Rotten Tomatoes score, then it probably is bad.

That's my experience. Yours may be different.

Can you think of an example of a good movie with a 37% Rotten Tomatoes score? I can't recall ever seeing one.

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm not sure if I'll actually watch this, the hotwife thing isn't my think and the two words "Ben Affleck" are generally enough to make me take a pass. But I'm sure the wife will want to see it and think its one of those sexy things we can watch together that's not porn.

I'm not one for getting into someone being humiliated-unless of course that's what they're into-and although I always trash the asshole men in LW, I'm not into women who are cruel to an unwilling partner. But I wonder if the angle here which seems to be all humiliation and games with the husband not being on board is a result of how polarizing it is and the way it gets the men frothing and old school "good women" doing the same and negative press is press and will get people to check it out.

The stories like that on here get a ton of attention, a lot bad, but its attention, maybe the movie is going for the same reaction. It reminds me of the fifty shades movie (first one) where somehow the book glorified this POS abuser into somehow being a 'romance' but his portrayal in the first movie was spot on with him being a disgusting creep to the point the movie bombed and had mostly negative reaction and the director was not brought back and 2&3(according to the wife, I wouldn't watch that shit) was damage control to the max of he's really a nice guy!

Like that, I see the wife looking a lot worse on film than in the book, and I imagine its deliberate.

It'll probably get the incels going on internet tirades and the few dangerous ones looking for women to beat. Nothing new

 

[lovecraft68]

I find that movies with very good Rotten Tomatoes scores are often not good. But the converse is rarely true. If a movie has a really terrible Rotten Tomatoes score, then it probably is bad.

That's my experience. Yours may be different.

Can you think of an example of a good movie with a 37% Rotten Tomatoes score? I can't recall ever seeing one.

My point is two fold.
One being you're an erotica author who has written in LW and is always in on the discussions of it, that being pretty much an LW story on the screen you'd check it out to see how it correlates to lit stories
As for my critic remark, I see it as what is discussed here all the time...everything is subjective. A story you rave over might be one I think is meh and so on. Would you take another's word here on whether a story was worth reading, or would you give it a quick look yourself?

Movie critics are only one person with an opinion, that somehow a bunch of other people subscribe to. You know how many movies Siskel and Ebert panned that did very well? I wouldn't let Rotten Tomatoes decide my mind on something, unless it was the reverse pyschology of if they hate it, I'll probably like it. Remember, this is the site that gave Joker a horrible score while the audience score was 90% and it won a ton of awards, and we all know why they railed against it, don't we?

 

[SimonDoom]

My point is two fold.
One being you're an erotica author who has written in LW and is always in on the discussions of it, that being pretty much an LW story on the screen you'd check it out to see how it correlates to lit stories
As for my critic remark, I see it as what is discussed here all the time...everything is subjective. A story you rave over might be one I think is meh and so on. Would you take another's word here on whether a story was worth reading, or would you give it a quick look yourself?

Movie critics are only one person with an opinion, that somehow a bunch of other people subscribe to. You know how many movies Siskel and Ebert panned that did very well? I wouldn't let Rotten Tomatoes decide my mind on something, unless it was the reverse pyschology of if they hate it, I'll probably like it. Remember, this is the site that gave Joker a horrible score while the audience score was 90% and it won a ton of awards, and we all know why they railed against it, don't we?

I see it this way. I don't trust other people to decide what I will like. But I do think there is wisdom in crowds. If hundreds of critics have given their opinions and most think a movie is bad, there's a very high likelihood I will think it's bad. Life is short, and I think most movies are bad, and if a movie has a Rotten Tomatoes rating of 37% the odds are it's bad, so I probably won't waste my time. There's a tiny, tiny chance that I might, but since time is limited I don't have any regret about just not seeing it and focusing my attention elsewhere.

I feel the same way, more or less, about Literotica stories and their scores, although I make adjustments for a) whether they're in Loving Wives, b) whether they are 750 word stories, or c) whether they are by authors that I have reason to believe are being maliciously downvoted. There are some good stories with scores of 4.0. But if you selected 100 stories at random with a score of 4.7, on average they would be a LOT better than 100 stories selected at random with a score of 4.2. Since I only read a tiny fraction of stories here, I'm going to be more inclined to pick the higher-scoring story. Not always, but most of the time.

Joker, by the way, has a Rotten Tomatoes critic score of 68%, and an audience score of 88%. I haven't seen the movie, but I have a feeling I probably wouldn't like it. Regardless, it's almost twice as high as 37%.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Joker, by the way, has a Rotten Tomatoes critic score of 68%, and an audience score of 88%. I haven't seen the movie, but I have a feeling I probably wouldn't like it. Regardless, it's almost twice as high as 37%.

You might. It had a hard edge to it that none of the other Batman movies had. It's interesting to compare Joaquin Pheonix's Joker to Heath Ledger's. Very different, both compelling.

 

[Agiel]

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.everything is subjective. A story you rave over might be one I think is meh and so on. Would you take another's word here on whether a story was worth reading, or would you give it a quick look yourself?

I see it this way. I don't trust other people to decide what I will like.

There are some good stories with scores of 4.0. Since I only read a tiny fraction of stories here, I'm going to be more inclined to pick the higher-scoring story. Not always, but most of the time.

I definite don’t trust other people to decide what I do or don’t like. Or decide what I should or shouldn’t like. I’ll respect their own opinion but I don’t like it if they try and push it on to me.

I’m not an avid reader of stories on here and when I do it’s mainly in two categories with occasionally another two depending on how I feel.

Generally speaking a higher rated story will be better than a lower rated one. But not always. Some stories get undeserved high scores. Occasionally by writers simply because they’ve got a big fan base and turn out the same story, with variations, every time. But that’s only my opinion.

I’ve read stories which should be higher rated but, for some unfathomable reason, are way below what they should be. Sometimes not even a 4. But that’s only my opinion.

I generally go by the title and the description. Slightly influenced by the score. A series which has the same bland description for every chapter I ignore completely no matter who the writer may be. In doing so I may miss out on a great story but who cares? Not me.

As for this film “Deep Water.” I’ve just read the plot and, going by that, it’s not a film I would go out of my way to watch. Although, having said that, I’ve watched and enjoyed many films I didn’t think I would enjoy. There are many other occasions when I’ve been glad I could fast forward and only waste 15 minutes of my life not 150.

Who cares about another person’s opinion? The writer of a story does.

But as for a film? Only a few involved in the production will be bothered. I doubt Ben Affleck will be concerned. Unless he’s getting a percentage of the profits. Those involved in the financing? The director? But to everyone else it’s just a job and they’ll move on to the next one.

Listen to the opinion of someone else by all means. Expect them to listen to you. But it’s only what you actually think that matters.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Well, as a writer of LW stories, from what I have read and seen about his movie has made me decide to give it a pass.