The whole criminals don't follow laws argument

[SgtSpiderMan]

I have to say, I don't see any logic in it. If someone really believed that shouldn't they be against all laws?

I also fail to see the logic in it because most people who make that argument in one thread are calling for the creation of a law in another thread. Like voter ID laws, or immigration laws, or enforcing immigration laws.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I have to say, I don't see any logic in it. If someone really believed that shouldn't they be against all laws?

I also fail to see the logic in it because most people who make that argument in one thread are calling for the creation of a law in another thread. Like voter ID laws, or immigration laws, or enforcing immigration laws.

Back smoking the crack again I see.

...the administration of the law can never go lax where every individual sees to it that it grows not lax in his own case, or in cases which fall under his eyes.
- Mark Twain's Notebook

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Back smoking the crack again I see.

...the administration of the law can never go lax where every individual sees to it that it grows not lax in his own case, or in cases which fall under his eyes.
- Mark Twain's Notebook

Talking about creating new laws. Your quote doesn't really apply.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Talking about creating new laws. Your quote doesn't really apply.

Of course it doesn't. Take another drag.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Of course it doesn't. Take another drag.

I'd love to hear your explanation of how it does.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I'd love to hear your explanation of how it does.

They may not follow laws but when they break them, we can throw their asses in prison. Was that too difficult to follow?

 

[tactful]

Laws, were meant to be broken, mostly by idiots, I mean real idiots, and politicians.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

They may not follow laws but when they break them, we can throw their asses in prison. Was that too difficult to follow?

No, but it has nothing to do with explaining the quote you posted.

I understand that you're saying criminals will be thrown in prison where they can't break laws, but surely someone will be along shortly to say that criminals don't follow laws and therefore won't follow the laws of prison.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

No, but it has nothing to do with explaining the quote you posted.

I understand that you're saying criminals will be thrown in prison where they can't break laws, but surely someone will be along shortly to say that criminals don't follow laws and therefore won't follow the laws of prison.

It blew up your argument. I don't care if they follow laws in prison. That's the beauty of throwing them in prison.

 

[FGB]

If they followed laws they wouldn't BE in prisons.

Prisons have laws and rules too. Many not written down'

Now having said that, we have way to many laws.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

If they followed laws they wouldn't BE in prisons.

Prisons have laws and rules too. Many not written down'

Now having said that, we have way to many lawyers.

IFYP.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

That left me rather unsatisfied.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

That left me rather unsatisfied.

Spinoffs always do, because the character arc is usually already well done to death. Spinoff threads occur when a poster thinks he has "won" a political point, but it is not getting its true adulation and congratulation so they start a new, more visible vehicle in which their buddies and fellow like-thinkers can pile in clown-car style and can, in this manner, make the poster look much more like Diogenes than Krusty the Clown...



... but at some time, the show begins and the clowns start their proud precession out of the car.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

People go to prison because they serve no one who matters. This maxim is one of the TEN POLITICAL COMMANDMENTS: SERVE A MASTER WHO MATTERS.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

I have to say, I don't see any logic in it. If someone really believed that shouldn't they be against all laws?

I also fail to see the logic in it because most people who make that argument in one thread are calling for the creation of a law in another thread. Like voter ID laws, or immigration laws, or enforcing immigration laws.

yes, you are a fucktard

 

[Aella_]

yes, you are a fucktard

and what might you be, then?

 

[PeteHulbert37]

The point is laws don't infringe upon criminals because they don't abide by them. They take the liberty to do what they want as they're not concerned with the consequences. Laws place limits on law abiding citizens. Some laws are good and appropriate, others are not (especially if they are not in line with the Constitution).

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

The point is laws don't infringe upon criminals because they don't abide by them. They take the liberty to do what they want as they're not concerned with the consequences. Laws place limits on law abiding citizens. Some laws are good and appropriate, others are not (especially if they are not in line with the Constitution).

What?

 

[about_average]

I have to say, I don't see any logic in it. If someone really believed that shouldn't they be against all laws?

I also fail to see the logic in it because most people who make that argument in one thread are calling for the creation of a law in another thread. Like voter ID laws, or immigration laws, or enforcing immigration laws.

I don't think it's so much they don't want to obey the laws, but more that if it's inconvenient to not break a particular law while committing a a crime that they'll break it.
Example, don't violate the speed limit on the way to rob a bank, but use a stolen gun to rob the bank.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

and what might you be, then?

Clinically insane.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The point is laws don't infringe upon criminals because they don't abide by them. They take the liberty to do what they want as they're not concerned with the consequences. Laws place limits on law abiding citizens. Some laws are good and appropriate, others are not (especially if they are not in line with the Constitution).

Except they often don't and even then a without the consequences a lot more people would do those things. Believe me if the penalty for running a stop sign or for that matter a red light was you risk getting t-boned I wouldn't think any more of running a red light than I do of jay walking. I look both ways to be sure I can make it and then go. I sure as fuck wouldn't sit for forty five seconds waiting for a light to turn when there is no fucking traffic!

I don't think it's so much they don't want to obey the laws, but more that if it's inconvenient to not break a particular law while committing a a crime that they'll break it.
Example, don't violate the speed limit on the way to rob a bank, but use a stolen gun to rob the bank.

Even that isn't really true but it's closer to right. But the argument is always made (and generally about guns) that we can't make new laws because criminals won't obey them. Even if they don't we can lock them up and a fair amount of them will obey the majority of laws the majority of the time simply to avoid being locked up. I gaurantee you that nobody who is in an ISIS/Al Qaeda sleeper cell is selling drugs even if that would be the best way to make money.

 

[Recidiva]

I have to say, I don't see any logic in it. If someone really believed that shouldn't they be against all laws?

I also fail to see the logic in it because most people who make that argument in one thread are calling for the creation of a law in another thread. Like voter ID laws, or immigration laws, or enforcing immigration laws.

The logic is...do you lock your doors?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

and what might you be, then?

please tell us, how much crack you and SgtPepperWannaBe smoke in a day?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

The point is laws don't infringe upon criminals because they don't abide by them. They take the liberty to do what they want as they're not concerned with the consequences. Laws place limits on law abiding citizens. Some laws are good and appropriate, others are not (especially if they are not in line with the Constitution).

obama loves criminals ... because obama, hillary, and holder are criminals

 

[Sean Renaud]

The logic is...do you lock your doors?

No. The logic is don't lock your doors or even own locks. Criminals kick down doors.