The "What is an Assault Rifle?" thread

[HisArpy]

The "What is an Assault Weapon?" thread

I'm tired of all the gun control threads. But the epic fail by those who have no idea what an assault weapon is because they only go by the headers of the hog chow they're being fed by the gun control group is beyond ridiculous. So, I decided to go ahead and make a thread about what an "Assault Weapon" is. And what it isn't. In pichurs so everbuddy kin unnerstand.

Let us begin. THIS is an AR15 lower receiver. It has the serial number on it that must be listed on the DROS (Dealer Record Of Sale) form 4473 at the time of sale. THIS is "a gun" for all legal purposes. Scary eh? It weighs about a pound as pictured and is no more dangerous than a dinner plate in the hands of an angry woman.

https://ar15tactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/OLYMPIC-ARMS-PREBAN-STRIPPED-LOWER.jpg



This is an AR15 upper. It has a barrel and action. The action is what cycles the cartridges into the chamber so it can be fired. This part has no serial number and there is no record keeping requirement for the sale to anyone. THIS is not "a gun". It's about the size of a baseball bat and slightly heavier.


http://www.trapshooters.com/attachments/artg_2008_0303_1205-jpg.166437/



If you add these components to the AR15 upper and lower you have a "rifle".

https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2014/04/07/2915143_01_ny_compliant_ar_15_stock_640.jpg



Combined, those three assemblies look like this. THIS is NOT AN ASSAULT WEAPON.

https://gundesigndotorg.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/compliant-ar15.jpg



However, if you change those parts for these parts...

https://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/314/314015.jpg



It looks like this now. This is an "Assault Weapon".

https://i0.wp.com/americanshootingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/anderson-am15.png?resize=600%2C262




The ONLY difference between those 2 rifles is the pistol grip and stock. It is the EXACT SAME upper and lower. Exactly the SAME. Same upper. Same lower. Same caliber. Same, same, same.

Yet, according to some, one should be banned because it's "military style" and "shouldn't be in the hands of civilians" and there is "no purpose in civilians having them." The concept is ridiculous and only makes sense to those who have no idea what is being discussed. Nor do they care.

There it is. The whole silly argument in pictures that even a 5th grader can understand. I left out the "shoulder thing that goes up" because I can't seem to find any images of it. Probably because it doesn't exist except in the minds of gun ban fanatics.

 

[HisArpy]

Now that that's settled, can we talk AR10?

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1906/8345/products/aero_fde_380x@2x.jpg?v=1495235471

I seriously want to weld a cheek to that bad boy...

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

Last I checked, an assault rifle is defined as a rifle with a selector switch with three settings that can change the rate of fire:

Full Auto Mode - You hold the trigger down and the bullets repeatedly shoot out.

Burst Mode - Each squeeze of the trigger fires three bullets.

Semi-Auto Mode - Each squeeze of the trigger fires a single bullet.

The laws were changed in 1986 preventing the sale of assault rifles. The only way to buy one of them is to buy it from someone that purchased one before the 1986 ban. Due to those factors, those assault rifles have premium prices and are much rarer to acquire. I also believe if you go that route, you would also need a license from the ATF and pay a large yearly fee.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Worth a repost...

Trauma Surgeon: When Gun Dummies claim "teh AR-15 is not an assault rifle..."

Bottom Line: The AR-15 is the compensation weapon of choice for the underendowed male.

 

[HisArpy]

Nope. The legal definition of an "assault rifle" has nothing to do with select fire. It's about detachable magazines, pistol grips, barrel length, bayonet lugs, and threaded barrels.

 

[HisArpy]

Trauma Surgeon: When Gun Dummies claim "teh AR-15 is not an assault rifle..."

Bottom Line: The AR-15 is the compensation weapon of choice for the underendowed male.

The AR15 is the SMALL version of the AR platform.

 

[Chancellor_Palpatine]

Assault rifles versus assault weapons.

 

[HisArpy]

Assault rifles versus assault weapons.

Anything can be an assault weapon. Including a rolling pin.

 

[coachdb18]

Last I checked, an assault rifle is defined as a rifle with a selector switch with three settings that can change the rate of fire:

Full Auto Mode - You hold the trigger down and the bullets repeatedly shoot out.

Burst Mode - Each squeeze of the trigger fires three bullets.

Semi-Auto Mode - Each squeeze of the trigger fires a single bullet.

The availability for selection of 'full auto' would make this an 'automatic weapon', the term 'assault rifle' has no meaning.

Bottom Line: The AR-15 is the compensation weapon of choice for the underendowed male.

So, are all the women owners of AR-15's also 'underendowed'? Sounds like somebody has an endowment fetish!

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

The AR15 is the SMALL version of the AR platform.

Do tell. I can't wait to hear this.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

The availability for selection of 'full auto' would make this an 'automatic weapon', the term 'assault rifle' has no meaning.

This is where I got my info from.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

This is where I got my info from.

You're going to find all kinds of definitions for it. In terms of the ban it's all about accessories and being semi-auto.

 

[coachdb18]

This is where I got my info from.

Didn't bother to read any of your own reference, just threw out an article you THOUGHT defined 'assault rifle'...

First: AR does NOT stand for “Assault Rifle”

Then proceeds to define what AUTOMATIC and SEMI-AUTOMATIC are... but misses whatever point about an 'assault rifle'. There is no such thing.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Now that that's settled, can we talk AR10?

http://militaryhumor.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/military-humor-ar10.jpg

Bottom Line: The AR-15 is the compensation weapon of choice for the underendowed male.

Translation: "I can't make any sort of rational argument for my belief that banning a couple of rifle accessories will stop mass shootings and/or curb a gun violence issue comprised almost entirely of small caliber handguns. This whole discussion is simply beyond me so I'll make dick jokes. "

Do tell. I can't wait to hear this.

Last time I checked the AR10 came first....making the 15 the "little" brother.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The AR15 is the SMALL version of the AR platform.

It kills SMALL schoolchildren just as efficiently.

 

[RobDownSouth]

So, are all the women owners of AR-15's also 'underendowed'? Sounds like somebody has an endowment fetish!

I suspect that the vast majority of AR-15 owners are males.

Nice deflection attempt, though.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Last time I checked the AR10 came first....making the 15 the "little" brother.

There's the .22 5 and 7 tho. And I'm curious what his answer is overall. The guy is an idiot of epic proportions.

 

[Dribble]

https://www.quora.com/How-many-rounds-does-a-semi-automatic-rifle-fire-per-minute

Nice article...made by someone w more training than all the professionals here. Love to see one of the pros here in action...and how much better they claim to be.

Edit...actually...it isn't an article...but a response made by 33 different people.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

https://www.quora.com/How-many-rounds-does-a-semi-automatic-rifle-fire-per-minute

Nice article...made by someone w more training than all the professionals here. Love to see one of the pros here in action...and how much better they claim to be.

I don't understand your point with that link. What does it have to do with anything? Does someone claim they can pull a trigger faster than someone else?
It's a very basic article that doesn't really say much of anything.

 

[RobDownSouth]

https://www.quora.com/How-many-rounds-does-a-semi-automatic-rifle-fire-per-minute

Nice article...made by someone w more training than all the professionals here. Love to see one of the pros here in action...and how much better they claim to be.

The ammosexuals here seem to be hung up on this point. Semi-automatic weapons can fire at a very rapid rate of fire. They kill SMALL children just as quickly. Yet the gun dummies here continue to stick their fingers in their ears and desperately try to pivot the discussion onto tried and true safer ground such as flash suppressors, shoulder stocks and laser sites.

Dead children still remain dead children, whether it took 15 seconds to kill them all or 2 minutes to kill them all.

 

[Dribble]

I don't understand your point with that link. What does it have to do with anything? Does someone claim they can pull a trigger faster than someone else?
It's a very basic article that doesn't really say much of anything.

You are the one talking crap last night big guy. Just pointing out the obvious...you must be damn special. As is Mr Botany

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

You are the one talking crap last night big guy. Just pointing out the obvious...you must be damn special. As is Mr Botany

You're gonna have to show me where I said anything about rate of fire or even anything about myself. The only thing I remember saying is that it doesn't take no damn 15 seconds to reload with a speedloader. That article has nothing at all to do with that. The only time it mentions reloading is once when considering overall time and they give you 4 seconds.
I've never once bragged about anything I can do here. You're lying.

 

[Dribble]

The ammosexuals here seem to be hung up on this point. Semi-automatic weapons can fire at a very rapid rate of fire. They kill SMALL children just as quickly. Yet the gun dummies here continue to stick their fingers in their ears and desperately try to pivot the discussion onto tried and true safer ground such as flash suppressors, shoulder stocks and laser sites.

Dead children still remain dead children, whether it took 15 seconds to kill them all or 2 minutes to kill them all.

It isn't just that...it is they insist that the size of magazines don't matter...that they can pull off the same number of rounds using a smaller magazine. My post here...highlights several well trained individuals claiming that they can't come anywhere near what our professionals here can do. Whom to believe....

 

[Libsam]

They are scary and black.

 

[OldJourno]

It kills SMALL schoolchildren just as efficiently.

For pro-choice advocates, supporting Planning Parenthood is just like cutting in line when it comes to killing small ones.