The weight loss/diet threads

[rosco rathbone]

Does that qualify me as a bird-brain?

Head is not brain. Do wigs think? Hats?

 

[sincerely_helene]

Head is not brain. Do wigs think? Hats?

I would like to think so.

Not a big one for the puns, hey?

 

[jasonlf]

I would like to think so.

Not a big one for the puns, hey?

Ooh, new avi.

Have I ever said that you've got a very unique, very cute look, helene?

 

[sincerely_helene]

Ooh, new avi.

Have I ever said that you've got a very unique, very cute look, helene?

No, but I have always imagined it would be a nice thing to hear, and it was. Thank you.

 

[Betticus]

Okay, I made my own raw virgin coconut oil here at home and for the last two days I've had it added to my diet.

I feel pretty good. I first tried a tablespoon just straight outta the fridge and while the taste is coconutty and nice it melts hella fast and coats the shit out of your mouth. Just feels really strange and I had to sip a diet coke to get the feeling of ugh out.

Last night I had tuna fish with a tablespoon mixed in and some apple cider vinegar and lemon pepper. Lots of lemon pepper and it was really good. Couldn't even taste a hint of the coconut flavor but it was very filling as is not normal for that amount of tuna and it seemed a lot more rich. I've also completely gotten away from grain products, bread grains anyway. Still have a little corn in my diet.

I feel alert. Yeah, alert.

I'll have to get another coconut or three tomorrow or I'll be running out of oil soon as I only got about a cup or less out of the one that I experimented with. I'm also thinking a nice blender will be in order for this kind of thing.

If anyone wants to know how to make it just let me know and I'll post some directions.

 

[Betticus]

http://www.scripps.edu/news/press/033100.html



The link above details how most if not all of the affects of aging are due to cell division errors. In some of the links below they speak of cell division errors also. They tell how free radicals in your body will interrupt the unzipping and rebuilding of dna strands by attaching to them during the process of a cell copying itself. They also tell how this problem is made much worse by the eating of long chain triglyceride fats like vegetable, hydrogenated vegetable oils and partially hydrogenated vegetable oils. A diet high in antioxidant vitamins is recommended to keep free radicals out of your system.



These same oils are also shown to block proper thyroid function in several ways. Also discussed is the effect on the entire hormonal system. Basically all of your systems are thrown out of balance and the effects cause a bunch of problems such as obesity, cancers, alzheimers, wrinkles and sagging skin, bone density problems and more.



Foods to avoid are basically any pre packaged foods and foods with vegetable oils, especially soy oils. Foods to go for are talked about below but they dont mention meats. All meats should be organic and free range as well as their dairy products.



Exercise of course, thats a gimme.



http://www.mercola.com/2003/nov/8/thyroid_health.htm



http://www.efn.org/~raypeat/efatox.rtf



http://www.efn.org/~raypeat/diabete.rtf



http://www.efn.org/~raypeat/nutri.html



http://www.efn.org/~raypeat/aging.html



http://www.efn.org/~raypeat/horm.html



This next link is to the Danish Nutrition Counsels report that led to that countries ban of trans fats, specifically partially hydrogenated oils.



http://www.ernaeringsraadet.dk/pdf/Transfedt_UK_ny.PDF

The rest of this post are excerpts:


I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption. In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements. It should be remembered that amino acids, especially in eggs, stimulate insulin secretion, and that this can cause hypoglycemia, which in turn causes cortisol secretion. Eating fruit (or other carbohydrate), coconut oil, and salt at the same meal will decrease this effect of the protein. Magnesium carbonate and epsom salts can also be useful and safe supplements, except when the synthetic material causes an allergic bowel reaction..





Lets face it. The low-fat dietary dictum is a multi-billion dollar industry built upon a foundation of sinking sand. Not only does the scientific research show that the polyunsaturated vegetable oils promote weight gain, it also shows that they are not good as an animal feed either. While they do promote weight gain in livestock, they do so at the expense of another essential fatty acid: conjugated linoleic acid (CLA). CLA is found primarily in beef and dairy products, and cannot be produced in the human body. Research has shown that animals grazed strictly on grass, their natural diet, can have levels of CLA hundreds of times higher than animals raised on grain feeds. Also, in a study done by the Department of Animal Science at Southern Illinois University in 2003, it was found that beef finished off on soybean oil directly reduced the amount of CLA produced by ruminant animals. What are the known benefits of CLA, now that we have almost lost it from our meat and dairy sources? Among its benefits are: it destroys cancer cells, it reduces tumors, and it promotes weight loss while increasing muscle growth.

 

[Seduce]

First, everything in moderation.

Second, to lose weight, burn more than you eat.

For those that can't find time to exercise, or break out in hives even thinking about it, pause the next time you start to do something the easy way. i understand some, for health reasons, can't comply, but try a few of these. Walk that one flight of stairs to the next floor instead of riding the elevator. Put the phone down and walk over to the callee's cube/office. Instead of asking for someone to hand you something, get up and get it yourself. Sounds like little things, but little things add up and drop weight.

I agree completely.

I just said that olive oil is in fact as calorical as any other, if you want to use it in a diet.

On the other hand, it is very healthy (as long as you dont overheath it)........ I used homemade olive oil almost all my life and never had any problems with artheries and cholesterol (ok, it may be a genetical issue).

I personaly spoke with a man that had cancer and doctors gave him up. He got himself a piece of land with olive trees (I dont know how it is called in English) and about dozen of goats.
15 years later his cancer was misteriously gone and he claimed that homemade olive oil and goats milk cured him.

Although I wouldnt trust that much anything I could buy in the store. I tried all kinds of olive oil one can buy here in Germany and it looks and smells like plain water to me.
And as for goats milk it is huge difference between the one I get in the store and when I had my own goats.

Betticus, you really made me make up my mind this time and get on another diet

 

[babiesmiles]

I guess I'm lucky as here olive oil use , even the extravergine kind which is the oil from the first pressing, is very common .

It is healthy , lighter than other kind of condiment , besides if of good quality ( easy to get here ) very good at taste.

Obviously it must be used with judice because it is fattening as well, but as a kind of person average accurate about what I eat I must say that in summer hot evenings having for dinner one or two slices of bread ( but I guess it must be the "right" bread) with just a little of olive oil, salt and fresh tomatoes is more refreshisg, healthy and less fattening than other kinds of food .

Another simple dish I adore is pasta or rice ( but again the "right" pasta which is able to held well the boiling ) with just some olive oil and parmigiano cheese.

But my tastes in food are very simple

 

[Seduce]

I guess I'm lucky as here olive oil use , even the extravergine kind which is the oil from the first pressing, is very common .

It is healthy , lighter than other kind of condiment , besides if of good quality ( easy to get here ) very good at taste.

Obviously it must be used with judice because it is fattening as well, but as a kind of person average accurate about what I eat I must say that in summer hot evenings having for dinner one or two slices of bread ( but I guess it must be the "right" bread) with just a little of olive oil, salt and fresh tomatoes is more refreshisg, healthy and less fattening than other kinds of food .

Another simple dish I adore is pasta or rice ( but again the "right" pasta which is able to held well the boiling ) with just some olive oil and parmigiano cheese.

But my tastes in food are very simple

You must be somewhere near Adria (just like I was)....... those dinners with olive oil, just little salt, bread and tomatoes freshly picked up from my garden..... *sigh*.... I miss them so much.
I feel like fish out of water sometimes, moving so far North

 

[babiesmiles]

You must be somewhere near Adria (just like I was)....... those dinners with olive oil, just little salt, bread and tomatoes freshly picked up from my garden..... *sigh*.... I miss them so much.
I feel like fish out of water sometimes, moving so far North

I live in Italy and I love fresh fish as well , besides I started to like it completely raw too , which is tasty and very healty with all the properties preserved!!

 

[Seduce]

I live in Italy and I love fresh fish as well , besides I started to like it completely raw too , which is tasty and very healty with all the properties preserved!!

I thought so ...... I used to live on Croatian coast.
Fish is lovely, but I dont care for the kind around here much (from the North Sea or somewhere like that), it doesnt have iodine and in my opinion is tasteless really.
Raw fish is very tasty, I only had it couple of times, I suppose it depends on what kind of fish is used too.

 

[DustyWolfe]

Oh, wow that sounds so easy. Wait! It's not that simple. I barely eat at all, because when I do I get sick, due to the crohns. Because of that my body thinks that I'm starving (I am) and instead of burning the food I do eat, it packs it on to my body in the form of fat, so that next time I have a flair (and can't eat at all) I won't die of starvation. And yes, I've talked to my drs. They can't do anything about it, either. Frankly, they could care less.

But wait, I can tell you're thinking 'But she has Crohns Disease!" This works for anyone who's gone on starvation diets, which includes about half of americans. Not all who are fat overeat, as a matter of fact at least half of the people who are fat don't eat enough.

Let's move on. I have arthritis. Just walking makes my knees and ankles swell so bad that I can't barely move. But to loose weight, I gotta excercise. The only kind of excercise I can do is swimming, and since I'm a very bad swimmer it has to be a pool. The only way you can swim in a pool it to pay money. Do you think they'd take a check? . I have a friend who has rheumetoid arthritis, and she also can't excercise. Add to that that chlorine gives her such bad asthma attacks that she ends up in the hospital, and you have someone who can't excercise at all.

Grace, my heart goes out to you. I REALLY do know what you are going through. I don't have Crohns Disease but I do have PCOS, Fibromyalgia, Asthma, and chronic back pain (and some other problems) the first fucks up your metabolism and the others just make exercise damn hard.

I was under weight until I was no longer able to afford Ritalin, then I gained over 100 pounds. Being on Ritalin was counter acting the metabolic problems of my PCOS. So when I went off of it, not only did I have nothing to counteract the metabolic problems of PCOS and gained the normal 20-30 pounds that normal people gain when going off Ritalin, and the rest was just from PCOS.

You are right about not eating causing your metabolism to be bad. I'm hardly ever hungry and when I do eat, it's usually not much. Yet I cant force myself to eat or I will throw up. I was recently diagnosed with Narcolepsy and put on Adderral (generic, because it's the cheapest amphetamine I can afford) and now I have even less of an appetite most of the time. But since I'm on an amphetamine I'm managing to lose weight without eating much. Since I dont each much I've been trying to drink smoothies with protein in them. So that helps a little.

I do agree with what you said for the most part about doctors. They dont give a damn about their patients and the bottom line is money. Fortunately, my neurologist is working with me on payments (I lost my Co-insurance recently due a mistake that THEY made, not me) and so is my general practicioner. I suppose I've been lucky with the two of them because I know they both care about what happens to me. They've both been giving me samples when they can because if they dont I have to go without some of my medications. I really appreciate them.

 

[Betticus]

Hey, if you guys read nothing else then at least check out this one link.

http://www.efn.org/~raypeat/efatox.rtf