The "Voter Fraud" Fraud

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The ‘Voter Fraud’ Fraud

Ari Berman on April 4, 2012 - 1:02 PM ET


As President Obama spoke about Representative Paul Ryan’s budget yesterday, Fox News broke away from the president’s remarks to cover “a stunning case in South Bend, Indiana.” The story covered an indictment by the St. Joseph County prosecutor’s office alleging that local Democratic officials forged signatures to get Obama, Hillary Clinton and John Edwards on the Indiana Democratic Primary ballot in 2008. “Indiana State Police investigators identified a total of 22 petitions that appeared to be faked, yet sailed through the Voter Registration Board as legitimate documents,” Fox reported. Eric Shawn, of the Fox News Voter Fraud Unit, said that a local election worker was “ordered to forge presidential petitions for Barack Obama, illegally faking the names and signatures of unsuspecting voters to put the then-Illinois senator on the presidential primary ballot.”

The new report will no doubt underscore the belief among Fox News viewers that Obama was illegitimately elected in 2008. According to a 2009 poll by Public Policy Polling, “52% majority of GOP voters nationally think that ACORN stole the Presidential election for Barack Obama last year, with only 27% granting that he won it legitimately.” Conservative commenters are pointing to the indictment as further proof of rampant voter fraud and more evidence of the need for voter ID laws nationwide.

There are at least two major problems with this argument.

Number one: there’s no evidence that the alleged forgeries played a decisive role in getting the Democratic candidates on the Indiana ballot in 2008 or determining the outcome of the primary or general election. “No one could seriously argue there wasn’t enough popular support for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to justify their appearance on the primary ballot, or that it had any effect on the primary results, or any vaguely remote effect on the general election,” writes Ed Kilgore of The Washington Monthly. “So maybe this was ‘election fraud’ in the broadest sense of the term, but hardly ‘voter fraud.’”

Number two: Indiana’s voter ID law, passed in 2008 and the model for the nine states that have adopted similar laws since the 2010 election, did nothing to prevent the alleged signature fraud, nor did it stop Indiana’s Republican Secretary of State, Charlie White, from committing felony voter fraud in the 2010 election. (White was sentenced to a year of home detention on felony fraud convictions.)

Indeed, the Indiana indictment reinforces how thin the conservative case about voter fraud really is and why voter ID laws are a misguided solution to a miniscule problem. As I reported in Rolling Stone last fall:

A major probe by the Justice Department between 2002 and 2007 failed to prosecute a single person for going to the polls and impersonating an eligible voter, which the anti-fraud laws are supposedly designed to stop. Out of the 300 million votes cast in that period, federal prosecutors convicted only 86 people for voter fraud – and many of the cases involved immigrants and former felons who were simply unaware of their ineligibility. A much-hyped investigation in Wisconsin, meanwhile, led to the prosecution of only .0007 percent of the local electorate for alleged voter fraud. "Our democracy is under siege from an enemy so small it could be hiding anywhere," joked Stephen Colbert. A 2007 report by the Brennan Center for Justice, a leading advocate for voting rights at the New York University School of Law, quantified the problem in stark terms. "It is more likely that an individual will be struck by lightning," the report calculated, "than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls."

More recently, Steve Benen of Maddow Blog notes that “Texas recently went looking for examples of voter fraud and found fewer than five incidents of ‘illegal voting’ out of more than 13 million votes cast in the 2008 and 2010 elections.” Concludes Benen, after examining the Indiana indictment: “the takeaway here is that real examples of fraud are incredibly rare.”

Indeed, between 2000 and 2007, there were 32,299 UFO sightings in the United States, 352 deaths caused by lightning, but only nine cases of voter impersonation, according to a great new infographic by Craiglist founder Craig Newmark.

Yet conservatives continue to hype the extremely rare occurrence of election fraud as if it were something that happens every day and is somehow responsible for the election of Obama and Democratic candidates across the map. And there is evidence that they’ve been successful in pushing this fact-free narrative among the broader public. In 2009, Peter Dreier and Christopher Martin of Occidental College studied the media coverage of ACORN during the 2008 election and concluded:

• 82.8% of the stories failed to mention that actual voter fraud is very rare

• 80.3% of the stories failed to mention that ACORN was reporting registration irregularities to authorities, as required by law

• 85.1% of the stories about ACORN failed to note that ACORN was acting to stop incidents of registration problems by its (mostly temporary) employees when it became aware of these problems

• 95.8% of the stories failed to provide deeper context, especially efforts by Republican Party officials to use allegations of "voter fraud" to dampen voting by low‐income and minority Americans, including the firing of U.S. Attorneys who refused to cooperate with the politicization of voter-fraud accusations—firings that ultimately led to the resignation of U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales

The real story in 2012 is how the myth of voter fraud has been advanced by Republicans to justify new voting restrictions in more than a dozen states, which could disenfranchise up to 5 million voters on Election Day, according to the Brennan Center for Justice. That’s a whole lot of casualties in response to a few bad actors.
 
According to a 2009 poll by Public Policy Polling, “52% majority of GOP voters nationally think that ACORN stole the Presidential election for Barack Obama last year, with only 27% granting that he won it legitimately.”


This cant be accurate.
 
According to a 2009 poll by Public Policy Polling, “52% majority of GOP voters nationally think that ACORN stole the Presidential election for Barack Obama last year, with only 27% granting that he won it legitimately.”


This cant be accurate.

I gotta say I agree. There is no way the majority of the party thinks the election was stolen.
 
The election is but a tug of war and only a thin slice divides the two sides. I do not know if the Democratic side pulls all the same
maneuvers and tricks, that the Right Wing does. The Right Wing always seems to have it's dishonest side exposed, eventually.
 
The election is but a tug of war and only a thin slice divides the two sides. I do not know if the Democratic side pulls all the same
maneuvers and tricks, that the Right Wing does. The Right Wing always seems to have it's dishonest side exposed, eventually.

The thing is, by the time their lies are exposed, they're on to the next lie.

Their constituency doesn't have a very long memory, and they're not looking for the truth... they're motivated by other things.
 
I gotta say I agree. There is no way the majority of the party thinks the election was stolen.

There seems to be a definite strain within the collective mind of the GOP/RW that cannot accept the legitimacy of any Dem POTUS. They seem to think the Reagan Revolution was a once-and-for-all victory; that any Dem should win the WH after that is an impossible reversal of history, it can't be real.
 
There seems to be a definite strain within the collective mind of the GOP/RW that cannot accept the legitimacy of any Dem POTUS. They seem to think the Reagan Revolution was a once-and-for-all victory; that any Dem should win the WH after that is an impossible reversal of history, it can't be real.

The only brain strain is the fantasy world between your ears.
 
According to a 2009 poll by Public Policy Polling, “52% majority of GOP voters nationally think that ACORN stole the Presidential election for Barack Obama last year, with only 27% granting that he won it legitimately.”


This cant be accurate.

I gotta say I agree. There is no way the majority of the party thinks the election was stolen.


There are people on this board who believe that very thing, that ACORN can explain the entire 10 million vote gap between Obama and McCain. People like Rightfield have stated outright that only voter fraud can explain why Democrats ever win anything.

Compared to a majority of Republicans believing birther theories, believing Obama is Muslim, and a significant percentage likewise believing he's the Antichrist, thinking he merely stole the election is small potatoes.
 
The only brain strain is the fantasy world between your ears.
The only one, eh? How special.

You're a good example of a Republican - persistently determined to remain ignorant.
 
Not to be a rational but I think people need a way to voice their feelings of being disenfranchised just as Democrats did with Bush.
 
Nice try at deflecting the truth.

Not to make it a partisan thing, let's cover it from Hillary's campaign...


Dozens of Hillary Clinton supporters come forward with evidence and affidavits claiming that the Clintons were the first to charge Obama is not a natural born citizen as required by Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution and that his birth certificate is a forgery.

In the affidavits, the participants in Democratic Party primary caucuses accuse the Obama administration of illegitimate and illegal acts, including threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents and busing in voters in exchange for meals.


A memo published by the Hillary for President campaign March 4, 2008, noted the following specific accusations of irregularities and voter intimidation allegedly committed by the Obama campaign:

Irregularities:
Prematurely taking precinct convention packets by the Obama campaign;

Voter intimidation:
Lockout of Clinton caucus goers by the Obama campaign;
Obama supporters filling out precinct convention sign-in sheets during the day and submitting them as completed vote totals at caucuses, a practice explicitly forbidden by Democratic Party rules.

The Clinton memo characterized the Obama campaign caucus practices as “undemocratic, probably illegal,” reflecting “a wanton disregard for the caucus process.”



One witness described what she saw while volunteering for Hillary in the Nevada Democratic Party caucuses, “The Obama campaign people were stealing the caucuses – throwing away votes, intimidating people from entering the caucus locations,” she said. “It was very systematic. The Obama supporters got control over the caucus packages and they manipulated the vote.”






The documentary, We Will Not Be Silenced is about the disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign.

“We want to be heard and let the country know how our party has sanctioned the actions of what we feel are Obama Campaign ‘Chicago Machine’ dirty politics. We believe this infamous campaign of ‘change’ from Chicago encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stalk them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices and stop their right to vote.”





Specifics from almost a year ago were previously outlined here:
http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=37784487&postcount=133
 
The only one, eh? How special.

You're a good example of a Republican - persistently determined to remain ignorant.

LMAO!!

This from a guy who said only an idiot would believe the contents of a posted article, then later said it contained facts.

Phro, you seem to be a nice enough guy. Try taking a Lit break.
 
obama, "every democrat must be allowed to vote twice, but the dead should only get one vote, as long as he or she was a democrat."
 
LMAO!!

This from a guy who said only an idiot would believe the contents of a posted article, then later said it contained facts.

Phro, you seem to be a nice enough guy. Try taking a Lit break. DERP DERP DERP!

Classic example of hearing what you want to hear.

Miles Ben Zonah posts a lengthy bitchy cut-n-paste about...who else...President Obama. Phrodeau says the whole thing has two facts and the rest is all lies, conjecture and logical fallacy, but all Miles Ben Zonah hears is "has...facts". :rolleyes:
 
obama, "every democrat must be allowed to vote twice, but the dead should only get one vote, as long as he or she was a democrat."

Do you have any proof to back up your claim, or is this just more of the "I heard it on rush, so it MUST be true" type of "facts"?
 
Do you have any proof to back up your claim, or is this just more of the "I heard it on rush, so it MUST be true" type of "facts"?
It's not even that, it's "I make stuff up and post it as meta satire because I think that makes me look edgy and shit"
 
Nice try at deflecting the truth.

Not to make it a partisan thing, let's cover it from Hillary's campaign...


Dozens of Hillary Clinton supporters come forward with evidence and affidavits claiming that the Clintons were the first to charge Obama is not a natural born citizen . . .

:confused: This would go in a different thread.
 
First the Nation has no credbility they are a frequent guest on the Ed Schultz show.

It's not the Presidential race that Republicans say was fixed by the MN Senate race also they were exposed as promoting underage prostitution
 
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