The UK's Super Thursday

[oggbashan]

My wife and I have voted on today's Super Thursday - for a County Councillor and a Police Commissioner.

It doesn't matter who we voted for. We could have voted for any candidate and our vote would make no difference. The Conservative candidates are likely to win by a majority of more than the total votes cast for anyone else.

My wife voted Green for the County Councillor because he was the only one actually living in the constituency.

We both voted for the Conservative candidate for the Police Commissioner. He is the incumbent and has done a competent job for the last few years, given the limitations of the role. The others were nonentities with specific agendas which we couldn't support, not that they could do what they promised.

We voted because we feel we owe it to those who fought and died in WW2 to give us the freedom to vote. It is our duty even though we know we were wasting our time and effort.

 

[hobbit.]

some good points.

personally Id be vary wary of voting for anyone who is green - they sound seriously ill.

Id never vote for the carbon terrorist party myself.

likewise the tory scum, libdem yellow tory liars or UKIP.

but i agree it is important to vote.

 

[Uccellacci]

What made this “Super Thursday”?

 

[oggbashan]

Many elections were postponed from a year ago because of Covid.

All the seats for the Welsh Assembly and the Scottish Parliament are being fought, over 5000 council seats, 13 local Mayors, 27 Police Commissioners, and the Hartlepool by-election for Westminster - more contests than usual.

But nothing in Northern Ireland.

Labour has everything to lose. The Scottish elections could cause a constitutional crisis if the SNP get a majority and seek another referendum on Scottish Independence.

The results won't really be known until late on Saturday or perhaps even Sunday.

 

[oggbashan]

Conservatives won the Hartlepool by-election with a 16% swing. It is almost unheard of for a sitting government to win a by-election and by such a large margin.


Labour is in real trouble. Like the US Republicans, they need to refocus themselves if they are going to come back.

 

[Uccellacci]

Many elections were postponed from a year ago because of Covid.

All the seats for the Welsh Assembly and the Scottish Parliament are being fought, over 5000 council seats, 13 local Mayors, 27 Police Commissioners, and the Hartlepool by-election for Westminster - more contests than usual.

But nothing in Northern Ireland.

Labour has everything to lose. The Scottish elections could cause a constitutional crisis if the SNP get a majority and seek another referendum on Scottish Independence.

The results won't really be known until late on Saturday or perhaps even Sunday.

I see. That was a big day for voting.

 

[hobbit.]

Conservatives won the Hartlepool by-election with a 16% swing. It is almost unheard of for a sitting government to win a by-election and by such a large margin.


Labour is in real trouble. Like the US Republicans, they need to refocus themselves if they are going to come back.

Hartlepool not to hard to fathom - massive brexit vote back in the day, what does starmer do this time? put a remain candidate up! knobhead doesnt begin to sum him up.
what does labour do next? get rid of starmer and the blairites, return to socialism and let the tory voters rot in a cesspit of their own shit, until they see sense and vote for a socialist government.

Keir Hardie he certainly isnt.

 

[oggbashan]

Hartlepool not to hard to fathom - massive brexit vote back in the day, what does starmer do this time? put a remain candidate up! knobhead doesnt begin to sum him up.
what does labour do next? get rid of starmer and the blairites, return to socialism and let the tory voters rot in a cesspit of their own shit, until they see sense and vote for a socialist government.

Keir Hardie he certainly isnt.

And Blair he isn't either.

If the Labour party shifts further left again, the Lib Dems will outperform them.

The Labour Party needs to move towards the centre, because the Conservatives are going further to the right.

The French fishermen's protest around Jersey helped Boris. He couldn't have asked for a better start to voting in Brexit-voting Hartlepool.

 

[hobbit.]

And Blair he isn't either.

If the Labour party shifts further left again, the Lib Dems will outperform them.

The Labour Party needs to move towards the centre, because the Conservatives are going further to the right.

The French fishermen's protest around Jersey helped Boris. He couldn't have asked for a better start to voting in Brexit-voting Hartlepool.

for once (this is getting too familiar, ) we agree on quite a bit. upto a point.

i get the point about if they retreat you advance, tory move to the right, so labour moves towards the right to pursue them. thats a bit (lot) like bliars ideology though, and why many true socialists are now leaving labour, possibly to the TUSC - sad fact is that disaffected labour voters dont usually vote for anyone else - their morality wont let them vote tory or libdem, so the labour vote collapses and the tory scum get in. unless some dickhead puts up a candidate with no hope such as a remainer in brexit area...

its surprising the savages in hartlepool didnt hang another monkey just in case.

good news is we managed to unseat our labour candidate as a message to the party. he was an arrogant twat anyway.

 

[oggbashan]

My father, my mother, and I at various times were trade union reps.

My father and I had to give up when we were promoted too high but I became the management liaison for eight trade union branches. I found all of their representatives to be reasonable people who would work with management to resolve problems.

But today's trade unions are not the same, nor is the Labour party for which my father once stood as a Labour candidate for a local council (he nearly won but lost to the Conservative incumbent on a recount by seven votes - Why? The Conservative was the corespondent in a messy divorce case that came to court just before the election!).

Any defection from the Labour party to the further left isn't going to help.

I think the current Labour party has too many of the metropolitan 'woke' elite who are completely out of touch with traditional Labour voters. That is a shame. The earlier Labour Party of Harold Wilson and James Callaghan was much more focused on solving the country's problems. The current one spends too much time fighting itself and not the Conservatives.

 

[hobbit.]

I consider myself to be a decent person, i only ever once tried to kill a manager, when he told a lady who he was threatening to sack for being off sick after she had a miscarriage, that you are only pregnant upto the miscarriage. we had to be separated by the HR person.
I once told my manager, in a previous job, that unless he moved out of my way i was going to feed him into the paper shredder. i think i would have done aswell.


SOME modern unions are little more than political organisations - the one i represent isnt.

 

[oggbashan]

I consider myself to be a decent person, i only ever once tried to kill a manager, when he told a lady who he was threatening to sack for being off sick after she had a miscarriage, that you are only pregnant upto the miscarriage. we had to be separated by the HR person.
I once told my manager, in a previous job, that unless he moved out of my way i was going to feed him into the paper shredder. i think i would have done aswell.


SOME modern unions are little more than political organisations - the one i represent isnt.

If the first manager had worked in my organisation, he would have been suspended on the spot and probably fired.

If an employee had health problems, we had a medical unit that could and would provide in confidence support to the employee and if a managerial intervention was needed, would give advice on treatment options and or medical retirement if absolutely necessary.


For example. one woman had severe problems with her periods but her GP dismissed it as 'women's problems'. Our in-house doctor prescribed for her and told management that things might improve after about six months so we should be tolerant until then at least. We were. He was right and she had a much better life. She changed her GP.