The truth

[ExistentialLuv]

Etoile I am posting this here seeing as this so called Kate post on GLBT.

For those of you that really believed some thing happened to Kate (clamshell2), you have been lied to... I am exposing the truth for what it is!!!!!!

I have spoken to the Tigard Police and they investigated the story and kept in contact with me as to the progress of the case.

The gentleman that has been giving information as to how Kate is (JIM) gave me his name and address to send flowers too. The detectives payed him a visit today.

The whole story is fake, and get this. So is the persona Kate. There is no such person.

So for any of you who thought you knew her and what a great person she is. You have been lied to. Taken for granted. Fooled by an internet whack job.

Jim (drenchman) is Kate (clamshell2)

 

[69forever]

Etoile I am posting this here seeing as this so called Kate post on GLBT.

For those of you that really believed some thing happened to Kate (clamshell2), you have been lied to... I am exposing the truth for what it is!!!!!!

I have spoken to the Tigard Police and they investigated the story and kept in contact with me as to the progress of the case.

The gentleman that has been giving information as to how Kate is (JIM) gave me his name and address to send flowers too. The detectives payed him a visit today.

The whole story is fake, and get this. So is the persona Kate. There is no such person.

So for any of you who thought you knew her and what a great person she is. You have been lied to. Taken for granted. Fooled by an internet whack job.

Jim (drenchman) is Kate (clamshell2)

EL, we talked...just wanted to reply with my anger at such trash screwing with peoples heads for their worthless, pitiful little egos.

 

[FireDownBelow69]

Sorry to hear about this,this is so sad.

 

[Gusty Wind]

Sigh.. ;-/.. some of my friends still believed is 'real'.... awwww...

 

[ExistentialLuv]

Sigh.. ;-/.. some of my friends still believed is 'real'.... awwww...

Suckers

 

[69forever]

Suckers

Yeah sometimes. I for one give people the benefit of the doubt. But then theres the old saying... "Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twise shame on me."

I am an old guy for Lit. I remember fondly the days when a contract with someone was sealed by a handshake. There was trust in someones word. Not anymore. Now we live by lawyers and theives...oops, same thing.

Seriously, this made me take pause and re-think relationships I have here at Lit. How open can I be? Will someone recognize me and "out" me? Real or not? WTF? *relax 69* ok, the people who I have developed relationships, not just posting fun, I've come to know as real breathing people, of the sex they say they are and are some of the nicest people I've ever met.

Does this turn me off to Lit.? Hell no! Does it make me more cautious, hell yes. I'm a newbe but I learn fast.

 

[Gusty Wind]

Suckers

They said.. they gonna wait and see till this 'Jim' guy PM/s them again..

And a couple of others too... Coz they claim that...

They know these 'people' ...

And have be in touch with them for A long time..

I still think is a well 'set up' Long process ...

I saw it happen slowly.... even I don't post on their threads..

Duhhh.. just don't wanna anybody to gets hurt.. duhhh;-/

And I also think Lancecastor will not lie

He have no reasons too ...

Ummm.. don't know at this point...

Don't even know these people..

And I'm hooked on this stupid scandal ...

 

[ExistentialLuv]

They said.. they gonna wait and see till this 'Jim' guy PM/s them again..

And a couple of others too... Coz they claim that...

They know these 'people' ...

And have be in touch with them for A long time..

I still think is a well 'set up' Long process ...

I saw it happen slowly.... even I don't post on their threads..

Duhhh.. just don't wanna anybody to gets hurt.. duhhh;-/

And I also think Lancecastor will not lie

He have no reasons too ...

Ummm.. don't know at this point...

Don't even know these people..

And I'm hooked on this stupid scandal ...

LOL, it is ok Gusty. I just wanted to let a few people know the truth. Before the person started asking for help with the medical bills or something else.... You can tell these people to PM me for the truth, or are they affraid of the truth. I do not lie, I have no reason to either. What goes around comes around and in the end Karma will work its vodoo on those that have done wrong. No, I to do not believe Lancecastor lies. He seems like a pretty straight up guy. He saw threw the lies.

 

[ExistentialLuv]

Does this turn me off to Lit.? Hell no! Does it make me more cautious, hell yes. I'm a newbe but I learn fast.

I was going to take a break from Lit because of this whole fucking mess. Changed my mind. I am not going to let some sick, demented whacko mess with my head so bad that I stop having fun on this site. There are some good people on here. You all know who I am talking to, I need not say your name. So I am going to stay on ladies and gentlman. Just be a lot more careful than I was.

Thank you PJ and Sweetcherry for helping work through this, and all others that have pm me there opinion on the matter.

 

[Gusty Wind]

LOL, it is ok Gusty. I just wanted to let a few people know the truth. Before the person started asking for help with the medical bills or something else.... You can tell these people to PM me for the truth, or are they affraid of the truth. I do not lie, I have no reason to either. What goes around comes around and in the end Karma will work its vodoo on those that have done wrong. No, I to do not believe Lancecastor lies. He seems like a pretty straight up guy. He saw threw the lies.

Thank you EX.. ...

Please! Keep us up date..

 

[Queersetti]

Unfortunately, this sort of thing is an all too common internet occurrence.

But Forever and EL are right, we can't let the unethical behavior of a few ruin something that is very important for the majority, or to let it make us bitter and cynical.

There is no shame in being fooled because you opened your arms in a spirit of friendship. It would be a shame if we allowed ourselves to become less friendly because of it.

 

[BlueSugar]

heh... awesome... :: sighs sadly ::

 

[ReBeLBeLLe]

First I want to make it clear that I am a cyber cynic.....I have learned over the years that most people online put on a mask that they show the general online populace. I have never felt this was wrong. We as individuals CHOOSE who we want to know our most intimate details. Many online assume they have the right to know all about anyone. Before I would condemn any person for what may be construed as a lie, I have to look at who you are to that person and would the truth change your relationship with those you are involved with. If it's casual chatter....whether one is male or female, or purports to be male or female...then I think there is nothing wrong with a deception. Now, if it's more than casual, then I would find fault with something much less than the truth.

Now, being a cynic.....finding concrete proof of anything online is damn near impossible. I've seen "proofs" offered up before...in the form of news atricles, and police reports that have been far less than the truth. Am I saying I doubt what EL says? Maybe. I've learned not to trust another's "proofs". If it concerns me, I find out for myself. For the most part I don't worry too much about how much honesty I get online from casual acquaintances. I do however care how much truth I get whan I become more than casually involved with someone.

I guess what I am getting at here is that I am sure if clamshell turns out to be a jim, that there are some here who can truly feel affronted by this deception. If you are beyond that inner circle of more than casually involved then it shouldn't matter. We each need to search out our own truths for those we meet, but beyond that...how much right to personal info on another do we really have and at what point should that personal info be forthcoming.

 

[Gusty Wind]

Every body!!! Jim=Clamshell and thier E-mail Address is shult down now...

Ummmm .. says alots . . isn't is? ...

And some friends have been friends with them are very embarrassed by it.

And they really don't wanna say much..

Jusdt leave it at that.. I guess....

Is over!! Yip Pee... ...

Ummm .. OO well...

They may come back as some body elas...

Watch out!!

 

[destinie21]

It's hard to find out something like this. I too spoke with Jim and also was given his address to send flowers to for the supposed Kate. I still have to wonder why someone would do ths and the whole stalker/ Kate being maimed was hurtful as well as scary. story. I have to admit that I'm both hurt and disappointed. I also feel that I have every right to both feelings because I thought we had become friends I cared about what was happening in "her" life. Oh well bygones

 

[Gusty Wind]

SICK Joke that harmed alot of people's feelings... sigh...

Awww.. how sad. . eiter ways is stil l sad too. . for Jim.

Hope his is well . . whatever... ehemm ..


Enough being said already...

Rest In Peace Jim & Clamshell ..