The Southern Baptists have uncovered the gay agenda

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Southern Baptists eye gay, school issues

The Associated Press

NASHVILLE — Most Southern Baptists send their children to public schools, but some leaders in the faith are urging members to yank children out of schools deemed too tolerant of homosexuality.

The issue is expected to be prominent at the annual Southern Baptist Convention next week in Nashville, where Houston lawyer Bruce Shortt and popular Christian speaker and writer Voddie Baucham Jr. are co-sponsoring a resolution that says churches should look into whether schools are teaching acceptance of homosexuality. If they find that's the case, the resolution says, churches then need to inform parents and encourage them to remove their children from the schools.

"Much of this is deceptively labeled as anti-bullying, diversity, safe schools, AIDS/HIV awareness," Shortt said. "For those who care to investigate, homosexual activists with their agenda are moving through the public schools like freight trains. It's a problem I think too many denomination leaders don't understand."

Shortt, who wrote a book titled The Harsh Truth About Public Schools, co-sponsored a failed resolution at last year's convention that called on Southern Baptists to remove their children from "godless" public schools. A similar resolution is being proposed, in addition to Shortt and Baucham's proposal.

"The powers that be don't like these schools resolutions," said Baucham, author of the book The Ever-Loving Truth and who is expected to speak at the convention. "The powers that be aren't willing to take a stand on that issue because it would be too costly. Some 85 percent of Southern Baptists send their children to public schools."

SBC President Bobby Welch, a pastor in Daytona Beach, Fla., said Baptists should not retreat from public schools, adding that many Southern Baptists cannot afford to homeschool their children or send them to private Christian schools.

"I believe that public schools offer the greatest mission field," Welch said. "We are put on this planet as change agents. It seems contrary to me we would draw back from the opportunity to make a change. Public schools are a great place to make a difference."

Welch said he doesn't expect the resolution calling for a universal withdrawal of Christian students from public schools to be debated on the floor of the convention. Proposed resolutions must first be approved by a committee, which will decide whether to present them to the whole convention.

Robert Parham, executive director of the nonprofit Baptist Center for Ethics, said many SBC leaders fear a backlash from public school teachers and an "awakening within churches about the extremism of their world view.

"These SBC leaders who are resisting the resolutions engage in the worst sort of moral duplicity," Parham said. "They oppose the anti-public school resolutions while they send their own children to Christian academies or homeschools."

With more than 16 million members, the Southern Baptist Convention is second in size to only the Roman Catholic Church in the United States. Resolutions approved by the convention are nonbinding, and all member churches are autonomous in their ministries.

Shortt and Baucham's resolution says schools promote acceptance of homosexuality through officially sanctioned gay clubs, diversity training, anti-bullying courses, safe sex and safe schools programs.

Joe Solmonese, president of the gay rights advocacy group Human Rights Campaign, said it plans to hold a news conference at the convention disputing the resolution, which claims homosexuality is more dangerous than smoking cigarettes and leads to "drastically increased risk of contracting various cancers."

"We have seen for too long the co-opting of faith and religion in this country, the use of faith as a weapon," Solmonese said. "I'm concerned about the focus of the Southern Baptist Convention. I feel like the leadership, given their priorities are skewed toward our community, that says to me they're more dedicated to creating a culture of hatred and violence toward the gay community."
 
Have these people actually read the words of the man they claim to follow?

the man Jesus of Nazareth was way more accepting of differences, even in a very intolerant time...
 
Carson, do you get a copy of the gay agenda? Could you post it so we can see what y'all are up to next?
 
LadyJeanne said:
Carson, do you get a copy of the gay agenda? Could you post it so we can see what y'all are up to next?
And how is it put together? Is it a collaborative effort? Is there a wiki somewhere?

Just curious from a process point of view.
 
I feel bad for gay individuals in many parts of certain states. I envy many things about the states, (well, California and NYC, anyhow) but do not envy those who must bear silence in the face of attitudes like this. I recall growing up, thinking that the states were more forward-thinking. Ahh, disillusionment.

NOW - it's PRIDE WEEK HERE! One of the biggest in the world, and culminating on Sunday with an anticipated 1.something million in attendence. :D

LOOK OUT, TENNESSEE, we are cumming via a cable station near you!
 
As a southern Baptist, I would like to point out that these people are extremists. The SBC is a voluntary organization and its decisions are not dogma or cannon. Not trying to excuse ignorance, intolerance or stupidity, just hopeing to remind people not to tar us all with the same brush.
 
This I say unto you, that you love one another as I have loved you.

How fucking hard is that to understand, you slope headed neanderthals?

It's somewhat understandable that people with names like Shortt and Voddie would react this way. Their names must be a terrible burden on their egos. ;)

Added: I know, Colleen. But it's always the nuts that attract attention, no matter what the philosophy involved.
 
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Colleen Thomas said:
As a southern Baptist, I would like to point out that these people are extremists. The SBC is a voluntary organization and its decisions are not dogma or cannon. Not trying to excuse ignorance, intolerance or stupidity, just hopeing to remind people not to tar us all with the same brush.

Yes - the extremists are attempting to take control of the world. Hopefully most people will understand the group that is pushing this radical agenda.


Of course you won't be tarred, Colly, though I have often wondered about using a couple of feathers on you. . . :cathappy:
 
LadyJeanne said:
Carson, do you get a copy of the gay agenda? Could you post it so we can see what y'all are up to next?

We are going to advocate dogs and cats living together and lions laying down with lambs.
 
Colleen Thomas said:
As a southern Baptist, I would like to point out that these people are extremists. The SBC is a voluntary organization and its decisions are not dogma or cannon. Not trying to excuse ignorance, intolerance or stupidity, just hopeing to remind people not to tar us all with the same brush.

Yet, unfortunately it is the radicals who have a big lobby. :D
 
Rhys said:
We are going to advocate dogs and cats living together and lions laying down with lambs.

But no butt sex?

Well, fuck that.

I'm afraid I cannot at this time offer my support to the radical no-butt-sex gay agenda.

:rose:
 
CharleyH said:
Yet, unfortunately it is the radicals who have a big lobby. :D

Whoever has the most money, buys the most political influence, and therefore the most power.

Colly - I know many southern baptists personally... you know where I live. And I know not all of them believe this way. It's just the ones that do, that alarm me...
 
carsonshepherd said:
Whoever has the most money, buys the most political influence, and therefore the most power.

Colly - I know many southern baptists personally... you know where I live. And I know not all of them believe this way. It's just the ones that do, that alarm me...


No more than they alarm me, I assure you :rose:

Actually, alarm isn't the word, they piss me off. As charlie said, they are the most vocal and visible and they do nothing, but give all of us of the denomination a black eye.
 
their LIES are what alarm me most

Joe Solmonese, president of the gay rights advocacy group Human Rights Campaign, said it plans to hold a news conference at the convention disputing the resolution, which claims homosexuality is more dangerous than smoking cigarettes and leads to "drastically increased risk of contracting various cancers."

I mean, WTF?
 
Carson, that quote is hysterical. I agree, WTF?

I mean, even if it was true, WTF? Are we going to lump riding motorcycles and eating McDonald's into the complaint as well? No more gay bikers chowing on Big Macs while smoking a Marlboro ...

The guy's an ass. Actually, that's offensive to donkeys; he's an idiot. I saw the article where they lumped together the anti-bullying and tolerance measures as well. Yes, God forbid we live in a society where 15-year-old-males can feel free to join the theatre club without getting their asses kicked in the locker room. I can feel the subversion of good Christian values as we speak.
 
yeah, that's what burned me too. Let the geeks, fat kids and handicapped kids get their asses kicked. Who cares, I mean if we protect them we'll have to protect the homos too, so let them all fend for themselves. God will protect them.


[rant/]
 
carsonshepherd said:
yeah, that's what burned me too. Let the geeks, fat kids and handicapped kids get their asses kicked. Who cares, I mean if we protect them we'll have to protect the homos too, so let them all fend for themselves. God will protect them.


[rant/]

No offence, but lol, fags protecting geeks, fat kids AND THE handicapped? It worked in WW2, (pink triangle), huh? I think y'all should leave it to the dykes. :devil: We'll protect you. :kiss: :rose:
 
carsonshepherd said:
yeah, that's what burned me too. Let the geeks, fat kids and handicapped kids get their asses kicked. Who cares, I mean if we protect them we'll have to protect the homos too, so let them all fend for themselves. God will protect them.


[rant/]

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And that whole smirking "look the other way" business. "Oh, we would never *tell* people to go beat up the fags. We'll just not tell them not to, and pretend we don't notice the beatings. Hey, it worked with the Klan!"

[/rant][mostly]
 
carsonshepherd said:
their LIES are what alarm me most



I mean, WTF?


One would hope that such lies will show them to be congenitally incapacle of rational thought. Certainly making such rediculous claims can only compell even those who agree with the sentiment to wonder if they aren't being lead by escapees from the psych unit.
 
Colleen Thomas said:
One would hope that such lies will show them to be congenitally incapacle of rational thought. Certainly making such rediculous claims can only compell even those who agree with the sentiment to wonder if they aren't being lead by escapees from the psych unit.


exactly: therein lies the danger of extremism!

charles said:
No offence, but lol, fags protecting geeks, fat kids AND THE handicapped? It worked in WW2, (pink triangle), huh? I think y'all should leave it to the dykes. We'll protect you.

Thank heaven for dykes! *swoon*
 
carsonshepherd said:
Whoever has the most money, buys the most political influence, and therefore the most power.

Colly - I know many southern baptists personally... you know where I live. And I know not all of them believe this way. It's just the ones that do, that alarm me...

Good god, I was in politics for 8 years, my friend. I know what is purchased, and lobbies bought, and people bought and money spent, just as much as I know how to get votes. As a PR- past person, I told them WTF to say, that would target the best voting audience, the players, the, as I liked to say, "people". I am faithless, and tainted, even in Canadian politics, which is NOTHING compared to US. I simply am: faithless toward every government, who - each individually goes after what they want - hint. I also signed a silent me agreement :).
 
There's a new gay agenda?

I thought the most recently published one was supposed to be final. Please make up your minds at the next board meeting, people. It's in everyone's interests to keep the Baptists calm, and these constant revisions to the gay agenda are not helping.
 
shereads said:
There's a new gay agenda?

YES. To fuck you, or anyone. IT IS GAY PRIDE WEEKEND, afterall :D 16 year olds allowed :D yes a pervert, and a lucky one. :D
 
Colleen Thomas said:
As a southern Baptist, I would like to point out that these people are extremists. The SBC is a voluntary organization and its decisions are not dogma or cannon. Not trying to excuse ignorance, intolerance or stupidity, just hopeing to remind people not to tar us all with the same brush.


I seem to remember hearing a Muslim say something much like this not too long ago, and for some strange reason some people here didn't agree with him.

Cat
 
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