The Sexworld: A Thread In Which I Pontificate About My Favored Fantasy

[Shendude]

Hi, I'm Shendude. I've been posting and/or lurking around this board for awhile, particularly in the Story Ideas forum; I'm not much of a writer but I'm always coming up with ideas. Anyways, on the advice of someone else, I'm posting a thread here about a long-standing fantasy of mine, in fact almost a fetish, of a scenario in which a society exists without sexual taboos, which I refer to as a "sexworld".

A few examples of variations on the theme from Lit:

-Brainwave of Horror, Chapter 3 by Jafar.
-Sex School: Practical Demonstration by Quixote.
-A Typical Day, NOT and A Typical Day: Lunch by JRaven.

I am also a big science fiction fan, and enjoy attempting to worldbuild. As a result, I have devoted an excessive amount of time to thinking about what an alternate universe that operates according to sexworld principles is like, developing all manner of random sociological details. The purposes of this thread is for me to discuss these details, partially in the hope that it will provide entertainment, provoke discussion, and/or inspire writing, and partially because I like talking about it.

I cannot promise that what I write in this thread will be in any sort of rational order, and it may at times be incoherent or rambling. The details are a strange combination of what I as a heterosexual male with moderately misogynistic harem fantasies find sexy or cool, and what I as a wanna-be sociologist think makes sense. Some of the stuff being touched on may be a tad squicky. The whole thing is implausible and ridiculous. You have been warned.

The basic rules under which my conception of the Sexworld operates are:
-The non-existence of most sexual taboos, especially those concerning public displays of sexuality.
-A population that is universally sexually attractive, pansexual, polyamorous and possessed of great sexual appetite.
-A population that is overwhelmingly female.
-The rules of nature and of human psychology function somewhat differently so as to accommodate the above, and what derives from it.
-Is otherwise largely similar in history, culture, etc. to our world.

I see it as an alternate universe, but not a true alternate timeline; there's no explicit point of divergence, it's just always been this way.

I admit, it's built on a lot of handwaving. Things work rather differently there than here, because they just do; ye old A Wizard Did It. Speaking of handwaving, some of the ways that things are fundamentally different in order to support the scenario:

-So, as mentioned, everyone is sexually attractive from the moment they hit puberty to the day they die.
-The majority of the population is female by a considerable margin, such that many jobs that IRL are exclusively or primarily male are also open to females, but the culture is still basically patriarchal (actually the general resemblance to our world is itself a major handwave; logically a Sexworld culture would be completely alien)
-No STDs.
-No unwanted pregnancies.
-A more temperate climate, allowing people to walk around half-naked all the time (which is a major element of the fantasy that I somehow forgot to mention above, absent-minded fool that I am); they usually aren't completely naked though, clothes still serving decorative and utilitarian purposes.
-People do not become sexually jealous.
-People do not become jaded by constant semi-nudity, but are not completely distracted by it. The same goes for sex itself.
-Sex is less messy and unhygenic than IRL.
-No one takes unwanted advantage.

There are other things, but they'll come up later. Anyways, speaking of that last point, rape does not exist in the Sexworld, although this is partially because unlike in our world, where nonconsent is presumed unless otherwise specified, the opposite is true. Thus, there is absolutely nothing wrong with grabbing some random person on the street and sexing them up. On a similar token, leering, catcalling, and groping are perfectly acceptable modes of behavior: I have long had this image of a man from our world meeting a woman from the Sexworld, desperately trying not to look at her bare breasts, and being angrily told "eyes down here, jackass", or something of that ilk.

I will continue to elaborate and exposit on these themes and ideas, provided that anyone is interested.

 

[jdnunyer]

Hey Shendude.

I think there are some nice ideas here. I've been writing an ongoing fantasy series that has a lot of the same elements you describe (though it may not be to your liking, since most all of the sex is incest).

FWIW, as someone who's playing in a similar fantasy world, I'd say that the question you want to think about is: where's the tension come from? Or are you okay with this being pure wish fulfillment, of the utmost degree?

Put differently, is there anything your characters want but can't have? What drives the story forward after you and your readers get over the initial buzz of contemplating a world without any of the hurdles we face IRL? Your characters may not get jaded, but your readers are likely to.

My approach has been to introduce political intrigue, and to have the characters behave more like ordinary people than they are "supposed to". That is, their culture encourages NSA sex, but they all seem to form attachments anyway. And navigating the difficulties of feeling like you're in a committed relationship while belonging to a society that says no such thing exists can obviously be difficult.

Just some ideas. Maybe you find them helpful. Or, maybe you're not really worried about generating tension. Whatever works for you. Just thought I'd chime in, since I've worked with some very similar ideas.

 

[Shendude]

Hey Shendude.

I think there are some nice ideas here. I've been writing an ongoing fantasy series that has a lot of the same elements you describe (though it may not be to your liking, since most all of the sex is incest).

Well, in my perception of the Sexworld, there is no incest taboo, and in fact NOT banging your relatives is considered weird. There are some other notable taboos that also don't exist, which Lit rules forbid me to elaborate on.

FWIW, as someone who's playing in a similar fantasy world, I'd say that the question you want to think about is: where's the tension come from? Or are you okay with this being pure wish fulfillment, of the utmost degree?

Put differently, is there anything your characters want but can't have? What drives the story forward after you and your readers get over the initial buzz of contemplating a world without any of the hurdles we face IRL? Your characters may not get jaded, but your readers are likely to.

My approach has been to introduce political intrigue, and to have the characters behave more like ordinary people than they are "supposed to". That is, their culture encourages NSA sex, but they all seem to form attachments anyway. And navigating the difficulties of feeling like you're in a committed relationship while belonging to a society that says no such thing exists can obviously be difficult.

Just some ideas. Maybe you find them helpful. Or, maybe you're not really worried about generating tension. Whatever works for you. Just thought I'd chime in, since I've worked with some very similar ideas.

Well, sometimes I just want a straight-up stroke story. Sometimes, I want to play around with how that world is different from our own (I do a lot of thinking particularly about how various works of fiction are like on the Sexworld). I often play around with variations on our world and the Sexworld intersecting.

But the key thing is that being able to have all the sex you want with anyone you want doesn't mean they have no "hurdles". People still have to work to put food on the table, have fights and personality conflicts even with their loved ones, commit crimes, and go to war and all that stuff.

Also, in my view of the Sexworld, sex CAN and often is NSA, it's doesn't HAVE to be. People fall in love, and get married, and they can even cheat in a way; banging some random stranger in the ass is fine. Missonary position with your wife's best friend without said wife's knowledge or permission is another story.

Speaking of marriage, that one's a little bit looser than IRL. They obviously have no objections to same-sex marriage, nor do they object to polygamy, or to their being great age difference between the two partners.

 

[jdnunyer]

Well, in my perception of the Sexworld, there is no incest taboo, and in fact NOT banging your relatives is considered weird. There are some other notable taboos that also don't exist, which Lit rules forbid me to elaborate on.

You've got my interest.

I'd humbly submit then that you might actually have some interest in my work...

At least, I'd like to think so, since you sound very much like my target audience.

Well, sometimes I just want a straight-up stroke story. Sometimes, I want to play around with how that world is different from our own (I do a lot of thinking particularly about how various works of fiction are like on the Sexworld). I often play around with variations on our world and the Sexworld intersecting.

Fair enough.

But the key thing is that being able to have all the sex you want with anyone you want doesn't mean they have no "hurdles". People still have to work to put money on the table, have fights and personality conflicts even with their loved ones, commit crimes, and go to war and all that stuff.

Also, in my view of the Sexworld, sex CAN and often is NSA, it's doesn't HAVE to be. People fall in love, and get married, and they can even cheat in a way; banging some random stranger in the ass is fine. Missonary position with your wife's best friend without said wife's knowledge or permission is another story.

That makes sense. That definitely answers my question.

Speaking of marriage, that one's a little bit looser than IRL. They obviously have no objections to same-sex marriage, nor do they object to polygamy, or to their being great age difference between the two partners.

That fits, yeah.

 

[jdnunyer]

Well, sometimes I just want a straight-up stroke story. Sometimes, I want to play around with how that world is different from our own (I do a lot of thinking particularly about how various works of fiction are like on the Sexworld). I often play around with variations on our world and the Sexworld intersecting.

I'm totally with you. I don't write as many pure stroke scenes as I envision. I spend a lot more time with my characters in my mind than ever makes it onto the page.

And I love the idea of having our world and a fantasy world such as you describe intersecting. What I've done in my work is have the characters grow up in our world, then only after they come of age discover the fantasy world. After that, they shuttle back and forth between the two.

 

[Stella_Omega]

unlike in our world, where nonconsent is presumed unless otherwise specified, the opposite is true. Thus, there is absolutely nothing wrong with grabbing some random person on the street and sexing them up. On a similar token, leering, catcalling, and groping are perfectly acceptable modes of behavior:...

How Heinlein of you!

I have long had this image of a man from our world meeting a woman from the Sexworld, desperately trying not to look at her bare breasts, and being angrily told "eyes down here, jackass", or something of that ilk.

I get such a kick out of men's incredible fixation on titties. If I met one of these women, my gaze would be going lower than that.

 

[Shendude]

You've got my interest.

I'd humbly submit then that you might actually have some interest in my work...

At least, I'd like to think so, since you sound very much like my target audience.

Having skimmed the first chapter, that's a definite yes.

I'm totally with you. I don't write as many pure stroke scenes as I envision. I spend a lot more time with my characters in my mind than ever makes it onto the page.

My personal opinion is that porn-with-plot is superior to to porn-without-plot, so long as the plot is good and you don't go too far in the other direction.

And I love the idea of having our world and a fantasy world such as you describe intersecting. What I've done in my work is have the characters grow up in our world, then only after they come of age discover the fantasy world. After that, they shuttle back and forth between the two.

There are a number of variations on the theme I've toyed with (in my head. As I said, I'm not much of a writer; plot and setting I can do, character interaction not so much, and I have no discipline whatsoever).

These include:
-A person or people from our world being transported to the Sexworld.
-Our world makes contact with the Sexworld, resulting in trade and immigration between the two.
-Someone with reality-warping powers begins turning our world INTO the Sexworld; there are actually sub-variations of this one, such doing it bit-by-bit, or doing it all at once but having everyone remember the way things used to be.

How Heinlein of you!

He was fond of that sort of thing, wasn't he?

I get such a kick out of men's incredible fixation on titties. If I met one of these women, my gaze would be going lower than that.

Well, it's reversal of the old routine in which a man is staring at a woman's breasts and is told off for it.


Moving on: as mentioned, the massive cultural differences a free-love society logically should produce do not occur; for example, most media products are essentially the same, just with more sex going on. BTW, porn as as a separate genre doesn't exist since everything is porn. And yes, that includes media for children, sex isn't considered dirty so why should kids be shielded from it? On the subject of erotic entertainment, both striptease and prostitution exist, but in a rather different form; stripping is considered a legitimate form of dance, with the best strippers having the same cachet as RL ballet dancers. Prostitution is a similarly high-class affair; there are courtesans but no streetwalkers.

Gong back to cultural differences, let's talk about religion. Again, it's mostly the same as IRL, but with a few weirdnesses thrown in. Examples: Prudery replaces Lust as one of the Seven Deadly Sins; Catholic priests (who come in both genders) are allowed to have sex all they want and are merely forbidden from marrying and having children; Monks and Nuns merely refrain from heterosexual vaginal intercourse, with all other sex being acceptable; Islamic fundamentalists demand that their women wear revealing instead of concealing garments.

The Bible is different too; it includes graphically depicted sex scenes, and many of the stories are different. Two examples I've come up with (and if you can think of more, I'd like to hear 'em):
-You know the apocryphal tale of Adam's three wives? Well, in the Sexworld each had a twin sister, and Adam kept fucking the Lilith and her twin after the Unnamed one and her twin were created, and kept fucking them after Eve and her twin were created.
-In the story of Joseph and Potiphar's Wife, the Wife's sinful request is not that Joseph screw her, but that he screw ONLY her. Her deceitful response to this is to accuse him of refusing to sleep with her.

 

[autoplot]

How Heinlein of you!

Thanks for the laugh, Stella.

 

[sr71plt]

I get such a kick out of men's incredible fixation on titties. If I met one of these women, my gaze would be going lower than that.

And I get a such a kick out of women's incredible fixation on their own titties and on what they can do/need to do to get men to ogle them.

 

[Stella_Omega]

And I get a such a kick out of women's incredible fixation on their own titties and on what they can do/need to do to get men to ogle them.

You said it-- that's not about the tits, but about the ogling.

Women have other body parts that give them much more personal pleasure, in fact. You grope my boobs and I get bored waiting for you to get to the main event-- which happens elsewhere. Groping boobs makes you happy, not me. You want me to be happy, I got other places for the grope-age.

I have always been aware of this-- I grew up rather taboo-free. Shendude's fantasy is a product of the taboo-ridden world we actually do live in, and his idea of what a taboo-free society might be is limited by that.

 

[Shendude]

You said it-- that's not about the tits, but about the ogling.

Women have other body parts that give them much more personal pleasure, in fact. You grope my boobs and I get bored waiting for you to get to the main event-- which happens elsewhere. Groping boobs makes you happy, not me. You want me to be happy, I got other places for the grope-age.

I have always been aware of this-- I grew up rather taboo-free. Shendude's fantasy is a product of the taboo-ridden world we actually do live in, and his idea of what a taboo-free society might be is limited by that.

Oh, absolutely. As I said, it is completely ridiculous.

BTW, I should note an additional difference is that in the Sexworld people get turned on much more easily, and receive pleasure from more things. Thus, for example, a woman get off from giving blowjobs as much as men get off from receiving them.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Oh, absolutely. As I said, it is completely ridiculous.

BTW, I should note an additional difference is that in the Sexworld people get turned on much more easily, and receive pleasure from more things. Thus, for example, a woman get off from giving blowjobs as much as men get off from receiving them.

People who love to give blowjobs -- men and women both-- DO get off from giving blowjobs. A lot. Didn't you know that?

Have you ever eaten pussy, Shendude? Do men in your world drop to their knees to suck a passing clit?

 

[voluptuary_manque]

That's difficult to do if the woman is standing up. However, inviting her to sit on a convenient retaining wall might work.

 

[Shendude]

People who love to give blowjobs -- men and women both-- DO get off from giving blowjobs. A lot. Didn't you know that?

That's my point. IRL, only some people do. In the Sexworld, everyone does.

Do men in your world drop to their knees to suck a passing clit?

When convenient, yup.

 

[jdnunyer]

Having skimmed the first chapter, that's a definite yes.

Appreciated.

 

[Shendude]

So, remember what I said about how various media works are different in the Sexworld? Well, I have done some thinking about what some of them are like. Mostly, for some reason, I tend to focus on cartoons and superheros. Partially because I like cartoons and superhero comics, partially because they're actually easier (it's really hard to figure out how a lot of fiction would work without sexual jealousy or unrequited lust), and partially because by sheer coincidence many of my attempts at coming up with Sexworld stuff has been on superhero erotica sites.

So, while doing so, some basic thoughts: the most obvious is that there would be graphic nudity and depictions of all kinds of sex acts. Less obvious is that, due to the skewed female-to-male ratio, many characters who were male in the original version are sexy females in the Sexworld version.

For example, I envision Captain Kirk being the only male castmember on the Original Star Trek, that he is regularly shown screwing the various members of the crew, that the various members of the crew are regularly shown screwing each other, that the famous "boot scenes" are replaced by him actually screwing the sexy female guest stars, and that he also periodically screws sexy MALE guest stars.

Having established the basic rules, I will begin with thoughts about the Sexworld versions of Disney's Aladdin:

To begin with, as befits the skewed gender ratio of the sexworld, the only males who appear in the film are Aladdin, Rajah, Iago, and arguably the Cave of Wonders (which remains basically the same, as I can't think of a way to sexualize it and still keep it's neccesary scariness). Asides from those three and the androgynous Carpet, every character in the film, both main, secondary, and background, is a hot babe. Yes, that includes Jafar (ESPECIALLY Jafar), Abu, and the Genie.

Naturally, the costumes are different; Aladdin's standard costume is just the hat, vest, and belt; no pants. Jasmine's outfit is see-through; so are the pants worn by the guards. The outfits worn by other characters are also different, but I haven't figured out how yet.

The only character who does not have prominent sexual attributes (genitalia, nippled breasts, asses), is the Carpet, which uses its tassels to get people off instead. This includes the nonhuman characters, who's attributes are all humanlike, despite the illogic of it.

As our main characters, Aladdin and Jasmine have the most sex; in fact, they will be shown engaging in some kind of sexy activity with every primary and secondary character except the peddler from the framing sequence & Jafar's thief from the opening. I am not entirely certain what form these will take, except to state that Aladdin will be fucking Abu a lot (although I admit I'm not sure how he'll do it after Abu becomes an elephant), that the chief guard fucks him up the ass with a strap-on at one point, and that he jerks off Iago when he gets in Jafar's face as Prince Ali. The secondary characters will also often be shown having sex with each other in various combinations.


Here are are also some VERY short ideas for things that would happen in other Disney films:

WINNIE THE POOH: Pooh gorges at Christina Robins honeypot.
101 DALMATIANS: Pongo and Perdy make Cruella their bitch.
THE LITTLE MERMAID: Ariel rides Ursula's tentacles.
PETER PAN: Peter and Tink deflower Wendy and her sisters.
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST: Belle and the Beast get horizontal on the ballroom floor.
SNOW WHITE: Snow gets gangbanged by both the dwarves and her animal friends.
SLEEPING BEAUTY: "Love's first kiss" isn't delivered to Aurora's mouth.

 

[spp203]

Loved This Idea For A While!!

I'm new to actually writing here... but I just want to say that I have been reading these forums for a while and I share the same fetish of a sexworld. I am not much of a writer either but I love all these ideas. the problem is no one ever seems to keep this idea going... Shendude I read your moving to the sexworld beginning on chyoo and I like it! I have also always loved the idea that everybody is naked or wares nothing but stocking and shoes.. I also love the concept where people eat female cum food and cum has fruiter flavors, like your cum cake concept. One of my favorite examples of this type of world is in the story absolute power on chyoo. if you select make changes first and go to town, there is an awesome concept of the main character making changes to the world and seeing them in a starbucks...

 

[jdnunyer]

Shendude, have you read Lost Girls, by Alan Moore?

Wendy from Peter Pan, Alice from Wonderland, and Dorothy from Oz meet in a hotel in Austria at the outbreak of WWI. They all sleep together, and retell the stories for which they are famous. Really interesting stuff.

Your thoughts about retelling the Disney films made me think this might appeal to you.

 

[Shendude]

I'm new to actually writing here... but I just want to say that I have been reading these forums for a while and I share the same fetish of a sexworld. I am not much of a writer either but I love all these ideas. the problem is no one ever seems to keep this idea going... Shendude I read your moving to the sexworld beginning on chyoo and I like it! I have also always loved the idea that everybody is naked or wares nothing but stocking and shoes.. I also love the concept where people eat female cum food and cum has fruiter flavors, like your cum cake concept. One of my favorite examples of this type of world is in the story absolute power on chyoo. if you select make changes first and go to town, there is an awesome concept of the main character making changes to the world and seeing them in a starbucks...

There are quite a few Sexworld-esque stories and story-threads on CHYOO.

My own never got anywhere because, well remember what I said about not being much of a writer? Addventure posts are about the extent of my abilities, and only if I have someone to work with.

Shendude, have you read Lost Girls, by Alan Moore?

Wendy from Peter Pan, Alice from Wonderland, and Dorothy from Oz meet in a hotel in Austria at the outbreak of WWI. They all sleep together, and retell the stories for which they are famous. Really interesting stuff.

Your thoughts about retelling the Disney films made me think this might appeal to you.

I'm aware of it, but have not actually read it.

 

[Shendude]

And I figured I might as well post something, yes?

So, first off, a point which I do not believe I have made yet. It should be noted that, unlike in the real world, people in the Sexworld are capable of doing other stuff while engaged in sex. Thus, for example, a female officeworker can be eaten out and type up a report at the same time.

Additionally, some thoughts on the sexworld version of the Powerpuff Girls:

First off, they're called the Powerfuck Girls. Despite being little-girl sized, and having little-girl mannerisms, their bodies are fully developed. Think of them as minature porn stars, although there's nothing minature about their racks.

Their names are Boobies, Bosom, and Bustycups (although, if I could think of a word for pussy that starts with a "B" and sounds like Blossom or Bubbles, I might replace Bosom or Boobies with that and rename Bustycups Buttocks). They are just as likely to fuck their enemies unconcious as they are to beat them up.

The opening narration is as follows:

"Sugar. Spice. And everything Vice. These were the ingredients chosen to creat the perfect little whores.

But Professor Utonium accidentally added an extra ingredient to the concotion...Chemical XXX.

Thus, the Powerfuck Girls were born!

Using their Ultra-Sexy Powers, Boobies, Bosom, and Bustycups have dedicated their lives to fucking Crime, and the Forces of Evil!"

And howabout some Sexworld Transformers? Sounds crazy, right? Well, check out this link, and tell me if it still sounds nuts.

I admit, I haven't got as far as I like with that one, beyond:

"Transformers! More than Meets the Eye! Transformers! Hotties In Disguise! Autobabes Wage Their Battle To Destroy...The Evil Forces of...The Decepticunts."

I had briefly considered that the Sexworld version would be called "Transfuckers", but that suggests something else altogether, of course.