The rebirth of Venus - or - Big is still beautiful

matriarch

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I found this article in a weekly magazine, years and years ago, but through all my housemoves and downsizing, I kept it. I guess it meant something to me, so once more, I'm going to share:

The Rebirth of Venus
Big is still Beautiful

by Frances Bond

I've thrown away my diet books and banned lettuce leaves from the kitchen. After all, five hundred years ago, the great artists would have loved me - just as I am!

Last week, I had a revelation. St. Paul had his on the road to Damascus, but I experienced mine in the public library.

I was looking for a slimmers' cookbook. You know the kind: "One hundred and one ways to serve a lettuce leaf." My morning view in the full-length bathroom mirror had so depressed me I had demolished two cream doughnuts at lunch-time, so I was suffering from a guilty conscience.

I browsed disconsolately through the books. I just wasn't in the mood for watercress and raw mushroom salad. I moved heavily across to the oversized book sectio. Might be something interesting, and anyway, it was the right section for me, wasn't it?

This section contained masses of art books. I picked one out idly and flipped over the pages. That's when the scales fell from my eyes and I experienced my revelation!

The book contained picture after picture of beautiful, nude, LARGE women. They lolled opulently on velvet cushions; they sprawled on satin-covered couches, wearing nothing but smiles. Occasionally one had a wisp of gauze draped over strategic areas or perhaps a rose pinned to her luxuriant locks.

Without exception, they possessed well rounded arms and legs, dimpled posteriors and voluptuous curves. Just think - these women were painted because they were considered the ultimate in beauty.

I took down another book. The first page I looked at showed "The Three Graces" by Reubens. Believe me - not one of those Three Graces would have struggled into a size 18! This needed some thinking about. I had the two books stamped and took them home to study.

I got some funny looks on the bus. The typical housewife, clutching a shopping bag in one hand, and outsized books colourfully embellised with nudes in the other.

Back home I dumped the shopping and pored over the books. All the models seemed beautiful and BIG. Titian painted large, sensual, naked ladies and usually called them "Venus", which made them classical, so that was all right. But really, they were painted to give pleasure to the beholder. These plump beauties seemed supremely aware of their charms. They smiled from their draped couches.

It could be argued, I suppose, that it all happened centuries ago, that things are different now. I wonder! Renoir painted his ladies not so long ago. "The Bather and The Griffin" shows a dark-haired young beauty who was breathtakingly lovely, but again, she must have been at least 46 inches around the hips.

In 1917 Modigliani created a public scandal by showing a nude of Junoesque proportions in his first one-man show. Soon after looking at these masterpieces. I reached the section in the books which dealt with Picasso, which is a different story altogether.

Mind you, in his 'blue' period he painted some rather lovely nudes, before he 'developed' and started painting eyes where the navel should be!

All the painters mentioned were artists who revered beauty. They were also men and I don't think men change much in their likes and dislikes, over the years. Do we struggle to stay thin for men? I think not.

Men raved over Jane Russell and Marilyn Monroe in the not-too-distant past. They hankered over Sophia Loren. Do you remember that film she made where she stood deep in paddy fields, all glorious curves and billows?

Lynda Baron, who played the well-upholstered Gladys Emmanuel in the television series "Open All Hours" gets sackfuls of fan mail. Of course - it could be the nurse's uniform!

We modern women are all in danger of being brain-washed by the flood of advertisements relating to slimming aids. Newspapers, television programmes, even dress designers all tell us to think thin, thin, thin. Well - I, for one, have decided to stop trying to look like a half-starved adolescent. Not that I intend to flow gently into a shapeless lump, but I do feel it is possible to be an attractive, shapely, large lady.

I think quite a few of us are beginning to see the light of reason. Apparently some London manufacturers have started producing larger, plumper figures in their range of plaster models. We also have in the United Kingdom an official "Miss Big is Beautiful".

It would be pleasant if more clothes' shops would stock youthful and attractive outfits for larger ladies. If only they would realise that catering for big women could lead to big business.

In the meantime I am starting my own revolution. Tomorrow I will take the art books back to the library. Then I'll pop into that little shop in the High Street and buy the beautiful shawl I spotted last week - the gorgeous deep-blue one with splahses of poppies drifting across it.

Very sort of impressionist - if you know what I mean! I shall wear it at the next party I go to, though I do think a rose in the hair might be overdoing things just a little. I feel a different person already. Just to celebrate the "new me" I might even treat myself to a cream doughnut on the way home....


As I said, this was written many, many years ago - probably over 20, but her comments and observations are just as applicable now.

Me? I'm with her. I have no chance of losing my Reubenesque figure...I'll just carry on disguising it with my choice of clothes.......and continue to enjoy all those foods the clothes horse models are forbidden. I know who I'd rather be.

:)
 
This was lovely, Mat. Thanks for sharing. :)

It's true. In 100 years, no one's going to care for the size 0-2s that we see nowadays in TV and movies, but unfortunately there aren't that many curvy women that stand out in the entertainment field.

Off the top of my head, Salma Hayek comes to mind as being sensual and curvy.
 
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BRAVA~!
love this article. well, im a fat chick, why wouldn't i? i have no intention of changing who i am at this stage of my life. i kinda like who i am and sometimes, i even like how i look/feel. probably more now than i did when i was a size 7...(in utero)

its all in how you handle yourself and the respect you feel for you...ain't it?
 
As long as you're healthy, go for it. :)

6 years ago, I was a mess and I had to fix the situation or seriously damage my heart. So I lost 100 pounds, and that was the best decision I ever made. Yes, there's pressure in our society to have a trim, washboard stomach (It's a toss up over which place is worse for this, America or Europe, and there's an obscenely high percentage of anorexia and bulemia in women and girls in Japan and Argentina, for example), but I resist it because I LIKE how I am now. I go around and see these fashion model wanna bes and I don't care because I'm healthy and happy the way I am, extra padding and all. Bones aren't sexy to me.
 
Aurora Black said:
Bones aren't sexy to me.
good for you for losing that weight you didnt want! its so difficult to do but it says a lot about your state of mind.

bones leave bruises and id rather have mine from a sound smack or delicious suckle.
 
vella_ms said:
good for you for losing that weight you didnt want! its so difficult to do but it says a lot about your state of mind.

bones leave bruises and id rather have mine from a sound smack or delicious suckle.

Thanks. :eek:

(Blush was for the mental image :eek: )
 
There was an article in the Sunday Times a couple of weeks ago on the same theme.

If you google the internet for BBW you will find thousands of sites devoted to the Rubenesque woman even if some BBWs are beyond 'big' to morbidly obese. There is a significant demand for erotica about larger women, much greater than the demand for thin waif-like women.

Og
 
*snorts*

That is awesome. And very true. Being healthy and being thin are not mutually exclusive.
 
Average size

The average size for an adult British woman is a UK size 16.

That is:

Bust 100 cm
Waist 82 cm
Hips 108 cm

Or for those not metricated:

Bust 39.5 inches
Waist 32 inches
Hips 42.5 inches

Try finding anything wearable for a size 16 in a store's sale unless it is specially made as Sale goods.

Models, TV presenters and film stars are not average size or anything close to it. Some of the reason is that TV makes people look fatter than they are so slimmer than normal figures look normal...

Hug a size 16 or larger and you know that you are holding a woman.

Og
 
I love happy* women.


Are you happy?


*speaking of normative state of being. Does not mean that women I love cannot be angry or sad or jealous or...
 
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Aurora Black said:
It's true. In 100 years, no one's going to care for the size 0-2s that we see nowadays...
Gee. Thanks. :p

Checking in from the OTHER side of the scale... It really sucks being too thin, too. i've lost quite a bit of weight since moving out and getting a divorce - which was NOT intended - and it's been horrible trying to find clothes that fit. The size 4 jeans i was wearing a few months ago will fall off if i push my hands down in the pockets.

This is the point that people stare and start looking at you like you're a freak. Complete strangers have come up and offered the 800 number to eating disorder hotlines. i've overheard a few saying things about being nothing but skin and bones. It's a constant thing.

All that considered, i feel rather beautiful at least most of the time. i'm healthy enough, no major problems, and most of the minor ones are either stress or allergy related. There's somebody here that reminds me nearly every day that i'm beautiful (at least to him). i still get hit on a fighter practice, right along with every other woman that shows up.

As long as you're comfortable in your own skin, what's the difference? No need to be embarrassed about what you do - or don't - have.
 
WARNINGWARNING said:
I love happy* women.


Are you happy?


*speaking of normative state of being. Does not mean that women I love cannot be angry or sad or jealous or...

right.
 
I am a curvy woman! Curvy and proud. :) There was a time when I truly hated my body, and there are still times when I get a bit down about it, but for the most part I have embraced my curves. I like feeling like a woman, not a waif. The curve of my breasts to the curve of my hips all announce that I've evolved into the role I was born to play: Woman.



Out of curiosity, I looked up a few paintings like those mentioned in the article. Thought I'd share them here, for the interested:



Concert Champetre by Titian

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/KennaMc/Titian.jpg



The Rape of the Daughters of Leucippus by Rubens

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/KennaMc/Rubens.jpg



La Baigneuse au griffon by Pierre-Auguste Renoir

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/KennaMc/Renoir.jpg
 
It's all just fashion, and the current fashion is bad.

It makes me sad to read or hear about bulimia and related conditions, because it reminds me of what a stilted definition of "beauty" and "attractive" reigns in this era, and how destructive that is.

A while back there was an "am I fat" thread on GB. I posted the following in response to the attached image:

This woman is sexy and not fat. This can only be considered "fat" using the very narrow definition that is unfortunately the current fashion. Take a step back from the post-Marilyn decades and try to look at her in a broader historical context. (McKenna's paintings above illustrate this perfectly.) In my stories I use the term "fleshy" and "voluptuous" to depict this very look, and it is purely a good and very hot thing.

In an evolutionary sense this woman is probably literally perfect. She will bear many strong children, can carry heavy loads for long distances, and will not die in the famine months. I'm not saying that is necessarily the only proper standard, but it's perhaps a useful reference point.

I think women who are 10 or 20 or even 30 pounds above the current fashion's "ideal" are very attractive - even hot! – so long as they are fit and they have good muscle tone. This image illustrates that perfectly. There is nothing to suggest that this woman is not a regular jogger (with a really good sports bra). She is fit and has good muscle tone.

Given that, any woman who looks like this should pat herself on the back, give herself a good O, say "Damn I'm hot," and chill out about the fashion du jour famine-victim fad.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/spitfiregriffin/Voluptuouswoman.jpg
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McKenna said:
...for the most part I have embraced my curves.

I could understand that!
I'd never leave the house!

if i had those curves to embrace
 
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MaeveoSliabh said:
Gee. Thanks. :p

Checking in from the OTHER side of the scale... It really sucks being too thin, too..

Sweetie, I didn't mean you. I was thinking about the cast of Friends when the show was at its peak.
 
McKenna said:
:kiss:

I found more paintings:
Thank you for these. Renoir, Rubens and Titian - Different eras, but they don't get any better than these three for me, and for anyone who loves color and the sensuous and loving depiction of female flesh.
 
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