The problems with a lot of stories

BlackSnake

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In a lot of erotic stories, the characters do things that are not necessarily normal. Some writers struggle with, is it believable.

I was thinking...sometimes that dangerous, but as I was writing a piece, I made the character struggle with inner conflict.

I think that would make a lot of the wild things that happen in stories more credible.

...he/she was sick by the thought that crossed his/her mind. How could he/she even think of such a thing.
 
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How about during a first 'date' she is struggling with an attack of gas?

:eek:

Sound credible?

Happens more often than you might think.
 
In a couple of mine, the guy's constantly getting bashed up by her bucking hips. He gets his lips bruised, his jaw unhinged... It can be difficult to keep from getting hurt if they're on top while you do that.

(I know, we're not being very helpful.)

But really, it is weird how many easy women populate the lit. stories, and yet you can go years in the real world without meeting someone as accommodating. Wouldn't it be nice to write real folks once in a while?

But then the story is a longer one, and although it may be much superior, there seem to be a lot of people for whom a really short story is the only kind worth reading.
 
cantdog said:
But then the story is a longer one, and although it may be much superior . . .
On Lit, this doesn't happen, 99 out of 100.

there seem to be a lot of people for whom a really short story is the only kind worth reading.
Writing a very good, really short story is not that easy, but many Lit authors do just that that.
In short: time is money.
 
cantdog said:
In a couple of mine, the guy's constantly getting bashed up by her bucking hips.
Ha! do you know what happens to women who let skinny (i.e., bony pelvic protuberances) ride them? P.
 
perdita said:
Ha! do you know what happens to women who let skinny (i.e., bony pelvic protuberances) ride them? P.
I think that's a misuse of the word.

How many half-illiterate porn chasers bother to use a dictionary, anyway?
 
What word?

And, I presume the majority of porn readers are nearly illiterate and wouldn't know how to use a dictionary. P.
 
I try to write realistic scenes with realistic characters. As part of that things don't always go right, in my stories my characters have had such mishaps as Playing in the shower and getting soap in her outh, the jelly dong bending, rather than penetrating, playing in the shower and having her partner shift causing the water to shoot into her face, the phone rings etc.

One thing about porn that is so strange to me is how sex always works so well, for me, the times I remember most vividly are when things didn't quite go as planned.

-Colly
 
I hardly make any contribution on the subject the thread starter asks for.

Unless I was the thread starter, that is, or was, or had ever been.
 
cantdog said:
But really, it is weird how many easy women populate the lit. stories, and yet you can go years in the real world without meeting someone as accommodating.
You meet us all the time. Many of us are married to wonderful husbands whom we accomodate on a regular basis.

I.e. the good (and easy) ones are already taken.
 
angela146 said:
You meet us all the time.
Very true. And if we are available it's your job to either pull the switch or let us know you want yours pulled. I swear, sometimes I wish I could wear a fucking sign or badge and not bother with niceties.

Fuck-me Perdita
 
ChilledVodka said:
I hardly make any contribution on the subject the thread starter asks for.

Unless I was the thread starter, that is, or was, or had ever been.
That does it. I'm finally putting you in my ignore list.
 
cantdog said:
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But really, it is weird how many easy women populate the lit. stories, and yet you can go years in the real world without meeting someone as accommodating. Wouldn't it be nice to write real folks once in a while?

But then the story is a longer one, and although it may be much superior, there seem to be a lot of people for whom a really short story is the only kind worth reading.

What I'm referring to is character that jump their relatives, neighbor's dog, or the mail man without any moral dilemma
 
cantdog said:

But really, it is weird how many easy women populate the lit. stories, and yet you can go years in the real world without meeting someone as accommodating. Wouldn't it be nice to write real folks once in a while?

The world is full of real women who are at heart unblushingly brazen tarts. And as another poster wrote, you meet these women all the time. The likelihood that they will reveal the more wanton facets of their personality is largely a function of the milieu of your acquaintance. Most women known to me are very protective of their reputation and position in society. If you meet these women socially, that is within their social circle of friends, relatives and colleagues, they are not likely to initiate or even participate in, for example, a conversation on the subject of their overriding compulsion to suck cock behind their respective husbands' backs or to be spanked very sternly on their bare bottoms. If you meet them in a different setting, such as a liquored-up hotel lounge at a convention hundreds of miles from home, or even better, on an internet message board and/or chat room different rules often apply. With the possibility of disgrace mitigated by distance and relative anonymity, these same prim and proper women of unimpeachable reputation within their select coterie may not only speak of such things, they might indulge in them.

Oh the stories I could tell of when I was a young man chatting up local birds on a certain IRC channel.
 
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Yeah. I was the guy from out of town a few times. Once we'd established (in the Chicken Bone in Burlington, by the way) that I was in town only until tomorrow morning and I knew no one from her world, she dipped my tie in her drink and sucked it. "Nice tie!" she said.

Pulled me right into high heat in an instant.

Vern worked the carnival one year, and he can testify to two things.

1. You absolutely do not even look at the Gypsy women with the show. Not even a little bit.

2. Being the guy from out of town is very good positioning.

cantdog
 
cantdog said:
... Vern worked the carnival one year, and he can testify... Being the guy from out of town is very good positioning....

"... The beauty parlor is filled with sailors. The circus is in town ..."
 
BlackSnake said:
In a lot of erotic stories, the characters do things that are not necessarily normal. Some writers struggle with, is it believable.

I was thinking...sometimes that dangerous, but as I was writing a piece, I made the character struggle with inner conflict.

I think that would make a lot of the wild things that happen in stories more credible.

...he/she was sick by the thought that crossed his/her mind. How could he/she even think of such a thing.

Hm.:rolleyes: sounds like my life.

People do things out of ordinary every day if they are attracted to someone. Inner conflict can be a good plot line, but honestly no conflict is too weird that I know of, only tense/suspenseful in a moral way. Perhaps I have seen to many things and therefore too many things are credible?

In reality, many people do things that don't turn them on because it turns on a partner, they want to be accepted, liked or other, yet the taboo, as seen on # reads of incest stories for example, can be a powerful tool.

:)
 
I hear my stories as conversations first.

Not that the initial dialogue I put down is the best in the world.

The whole scene is brought along by the conversation; I write the talk down for pages and then go back to construct from there. It lets you play with the characters, derive a 'voice' for each. But I wind up liking the talk I started with, and imagining that readers need all that to sympathize with and understand the characters. I want a ruthless editor who will take a side issue right out of the conversation and imperiously note: Not needed. I would like to learn to be that editor myself.

But the conversation doesn't even happen without motivation from within the characters. A sort of physical negotiation takes place from flirt to fuck, and it's there that inner conflicts surface.

Ask why. Why would he think thatwas a good thing to do? What would make her decide to go along with that?

Then you end up with a voluminous slop that needs a ruthless paring away, but at least it lies on a foundation; you know what happened to move the action from here to there, and the rest is judging how little of all you now know is necessary to communicate it.

My stories are seriously flawed sometimes, when that judgement with the paring knife wasn't the best. But if they aren't people, no one will find them interesting. They may as well be an acrobatic fuck exposition the reader sits on bleachers to watch.

cantdog
 
That does it. I'm finally putting you in my ignore list.

*awed* Will you really, Snoop?

The hardest part in a believable story, I find, is the emotion. How to describe it, what the characters do...sometimes the emotions that they may experience you never have...in which case its really difficult to say what they'd do. Events are much easier to depict, even when you've never experienced it, but emotion is the kicker, and, I think, the key to a story with depth.
 
When the character knows the consequence of their action before they do it, but do in anyway...the trembling fingers
 
I always try to strive forplausibility, if not necessarily realism, in my stories. It's important to me that the characters behave in a way that is believable for the character and the situation.

Too often, I see stories on here that have characters behaving in what to me are totally non-believable ways, especially in situations where there should be a lot of emotional conflict. Take the incest category, for instance. It's something that is supposed to be more exciting because it's taboo and forbidden ... yet most of the stories have the characters just gleefully indulging with never a thought for any of the rights or wrongs or consequences.

When I write incest, the characters are usually either twisted to start with (Robert DeGranville), or become twisted over the course of the story (Chet Christopher). Then again, maybe that's why I don't get so many votes in that category ...

Ah, hell, I just like to read and write dark stories. What that says about my personality is probably best left unasked ;)

Sabledrake
 
cantdog said:

1. You absolutely do not even look at the Gypsy women with the show. Not even a little bit....

cantdog

The gypsies are filthy people!
*spits*
And we shall speak of them no more.
 
Sabledrake said:
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Too often, I see stories on here that have characters behaving in what to me are totally non-believable ways, especially in situations where there should be a lot of emotional conflict. Take the incest category, for instance. It's something that is supposed to be more exciting because it's taboo and forbidden ... yet most of the stories have the characters just gleefully indulging with never a thought for any of the rights or wrongs or consequences.

...

Sabledrake

WAM! Exactly.
 
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