The President: A nation comes together.

[amicus]

A well written presentation, well delivered and wide in scope.

The President said what needed to be said and laid out plans of what needs to be done.

His remarks on rebuilding infra structure and fighting poverty are reflections of FDR's new deal and JFK's war on poverty.

But as commentators on FOX news said, public projects to rebuild and a war on poverty that reflect a free enterprise influence rather than a public welfare program.

It will take years...but it should be interesting.


amicus...

 

[cantdog]

I hope they mean it, amicus. I am less than sanguine. Reps or Dems.

 

[amicus]

Not surprising the lack of posts on this thread. I suspect few here took the time to view the President's talk.

Secondly, it was excellently written and virtually stunned the democrats with its scope, leaving them with really no ground to occupy.

The Jesse Jacksons, Ted Kennedy's, Howard Dean, ad nauseum, will no doubt weigh in as soon as they can think of how to whine and object, but in the three hours since the talk was delivered, the newwires have been relatively quiet.

Where are those damned Liberals when you really want one to chew on?

Sighs...

 

[Guest]

Where are those damned Liberals when you really want one to chew on?

Sighs...

Here, ami.

Chew on this.



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[Boxlicker101]

A well written presentation, well delivered and wide in scope.

The President said what needed to be said and laid out plans of what needs to be done.

His remarks on rebuilding infra structure and fighting poverty are reflections of FDR's new deal and JFK's war on poverty.

But as commentators on FOX news said, public projects to rebuild and a war on poverty that reflect a free enterprise influence rather than a public welfare program.

It will take years...but it should be interesting.


amicus...

I believe it was LBJ who came up with "The war on poverty" which is a completely unwinnable war. Poverty is a relative thing. Those who are regarded as "poor" now would have been regarded as reasonably well off sixty years ago.

 

[Stella_Omega]

comes together?
I listened to his speech. Well written? sure, if you are willing to ignore the omissions and illogic. The scope was mind-boggling, and utterly reliant on... what? who? The kindness of corporations? Oh, please. It hasn't happened yet, and his dad thought of it.
Free enterprise has destroyed one more hospital in my city. The owner entertained a bidding war, the doctors who wanted to buy the hospital met his price three timse- but he sold it to Hilton anyway. It is central to many areas, handy for yet another luxury hotel!

Waiting times at the three remaining hospitals averages 18 to 24 hours- BEFORE triage.
At the same time, I can't afford insurance for myself or my family. I am a blue-collar worker and I own my business.

GWB has fucked me and mine up the ass.
I'd like to strap one on and return him the favor. I don't care one bit if he comes with me- or not.

 

[Penelope Street]

Vast. Clammy. Deceptive.

 

[Belegon]

Yeah...those commentators on Fox are so objective...


as long as Georgie wants to fund his foreign policy adventures, anything domestic is second level priority...even this...

 

[IndigoBlu]

Watched it. All he was missing was a bullhorn and a giant pile of twisted metal...

 

[amicus]

Sighs, I am never disappointed with the level of response, you always do just about what I expected.

The absence of educated democrats respond, I would never call them rational, preceeds an upwelling of popular support for a grass roots President that has once again struck a chord, a harmonious chord with the American people.

Watch it happen, watch two conservative supreme court appointees be confirmed and sit back as leftist legislation from the time of FDR is rolled back.

Let the good times roll! Happy days are here again!

the amicable amicus...

 

[IndigoBlu]

Pending anything closely resembling articulation [beyond your acrimonious taunts] coming out of your mouth, I haven’t found you interesting enough to bother bantering with.

 

[amicus]

Well Indigoblu...welcome to the forum...you are already a cut above most of the liberals here in that you used a couple of words with more than two syllables.

Good for you.


amicus...

 

[IndigoBlu]

Correction; I should say your political point of view isn't interesting enough. You're writing is quite good afterall

 

[amicus]

By the way, Indigo...I can take any side of any argument and usually hold my own, not that it matters...but content is not always the decisive factor.

Besides, it is fun to rile the usual suspects who are mostly confined to their beliefs and seldom have an original thought.

amicus the incorrible

 

[Somme]

The poor will always be with us - it's a matter of having policies that don't make them poorer still. Like, say, having a society that is capable of looking after its' own.

I may be wrong, but I've the feeling that, historically speaking, free enterprise has ever only looked after its' own interests.

As for listening to yet another speech of Georges, I'm afraid - and I don't know 'bout the other blokes here - that it causes scrotums to demand (and get) immediate asylum internally.

 

[IndigoBlu]

Content is paramount, amicus. Hence my initial assessment. GWB was grossly lacking and worse, his puny turn at trying to "rally" the masses fell woefully short in the process.

 

[Liar]

Haven't got access to no Bush speech here. Is there a transcript somewhere?

So I won't comment on it just yet.

However, this thread will probably be rendered useless by the time I get back to it. It has already started to derail. Starting with ami calling those that dissented his un-nuanced adoration of the prez "uneducated"... and the subsequent taking of that obvious bait that should have been answeed with a . Goodbye intelligent discourse.

 

[Liar]

Watched it. All he was missing was a bullhorn and a giant pile of twisted metal...

I'm curious... I guess I'm too much of a foreigner to get the reference. Watcha mean?

 

[Guest]

I'm curious... I guess I'm too much of a foreigner to get the reference. Watcha mean?

Indigo is referring to the days immediately following 9/11, when the Shrub grabbed a bullhorn and spoke to the crowd of firefighters and rescuers at Ground Zero.

*sigh*

Ami, trust me. There are many, many educated people who feel that "the speech", a call for U.S. solidarity in the face of yet another tragedy, was just a ploy in an attempt to improve his ever-lowering approval ratings.

It, um, didn't work, by the way. Too many people have seen his feet of clay.



Indigo - welcome!

 

[dr_mabeuse]

I missed the speech (Parents' Night at the HS here), but I was impressed when Bush took responsibility for the government's failure in the days after Katrina.

I don't know when the last time was I heard anyone take responsibility for anything in government--failure to heed the pre-9/11 warnings, failure to find WMD's in Iraq, failure to have a post-victory plan... It was refreshing. I give him credit.

 

[Couture]

George gives good speech. He always has. However, his actions speak louder than words. Halliburton gets another nobid contract ... this time in New Orleans. While the minimum wage in the area is suspended. They aren't even making a pretense at trickle down economics. This is pure thievery.

 

[minsue]

Sighs, I am never disappointed with the level of response, you always do just about what I expected.

They did exactly what you asked, ami. It's become some sort of bizarre pantomime.

• You say the exact same things in every thread
• You bitch that you get no response
• People respond
• You bitch that you knew they would say that

What's the point?

 

[Halo_n_horns]

Not surprising the lack of posts on this thread. I suspect few here took the time to view the President's talk.

Secondly, it was excellently written and virtually stunned the democrats with its scope, leaving them with really no ground to occupy.

The Jesse Jacksons, Ted Kennedy's, Howard Dean, ad nauseum, will no doubt weigh in as soon as they can think of how to whine and object, but in the three hours since the talk was delivered, the newwires have been relatively quiet.

Where are those damned Liberals when you really want one to chew on?

Sighs...

Even a bad used car salesman knows what to say to get the sale completed. He's done this crap for his entire presidency. Its nothing new, and its interesting to see how many gullible people there are who bought what he's selling.

Chew on that.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I missed the speech (Parents' Night at the HS here), but I was impressed when Bush took responsibility for the government's failure in the days after Katrina.

I don't know when the last time was I heard anyone take responsibility for anything in government--failure to heed the pre-9/11 warnings, failure to find WMD's in Iraq, failure to have a post-victory plan... It was refreshing. I give him credit.

Do you remember an episode of "Tool Time" where Tim Allen taught his son how to apologise to his girlfriend? He said;
"You point your left foot in front of your right. You look down at your toe. You sort of make circles on the ground with the toe. You say; 'I'm really really sorry for_____ and I promise I won't do it again' "

The kid tries it and it works, his GF forgives him. (But of course, he fucks up again before the episode was over.)

politically, that's what GWB did last night. The problem is- this is not a TV sitcom.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I missed the speech (Parents' Night at the HS here), but I was impressed when Bush took responsibility for the government's failure in the days after Katrina.

I don't know when the last time was I heard anyone take responsibility for anything in government--failure to heed the pre-9/11 warnings, failure to find WMD's in Iraq, failure to have a post-victory plan... It was refreshing. I give him credit.

It sort of reminded me of AG Janet Reno taking blame for the fiasco in Waco. I think nobody actually believed she meant it. Personally, I think there was not an ounce of sincerity in her body. I doubt if she truly meant to kill everybody there but I also doubt if she cared much about them either.