The philosophies of societal control......... Where are you?

Sparky Kronkite

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Some have - most don't. Some think - most don't.

Those who think and have - want to maintain - that requires control. Control requires power. Knowledge is power. Power is wealth.... and on and on.

So, where do you think you fit into the scheme of things?

Yes, you could have a lot of fun with that word "scheme" - but by that word scheme I mean.......

Where do you think you are in the higherarchy of societal control?

What do you know? What don't you know? What keeps you away from those "in the know?" Do you really "want" to be close to those in the know? Those in control. Do you want to be in control?

Who knows? Maybe you are one of the privileged "who are" in the know. Maybe it was your birthright or something. Or maybe you know just enough people in the know - to rub elbows with them.

Maybe - you don't really want to know at all. I think most people who "don't think," - they don't want to know. It's more psychological than a matter of intellect. They aren't dumb, they just don't want to know. It keeps life simple - most people will opt for simplicity in there lives.

And "knowing" after all is a cumulative thing - if you didn't start out, early in life, wanting to know - or if you're just getting around to wanting to know now in your life - well it's likely that you may not catch up. You may never be in the know.

So where are you?

Me? I don't know for sure but it's certainly not "in the know."
 
How do you come up with all this stuff

And where do you find the time?? Yoo're suppossed to be working. Just how do you do it??


blue
 
Blue

But you didn't answer the question. What was the question, Sparky?
 
Let me answer the question....

Here's where I fit in.I'm at home today, instead of "working", because I can be here. Simple as that.

I have a certain amount of power based on the control I have over my own life. Simple as that! (Did I repeat myself)??

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[Edited by FlamingoBlue on 01-30-2001 at 10:34 AM]
 
I don't think I have it, but then again, perhaps I do and I just don't know it yet. Control over what I think I may have, but then again perhaps not...what was the question??
 
I don't care, and don't want to.
I don't know, and don't want to.
That is my control.
 
Okay Blue..... all..... I had to "go work"

The question is - where do "you think" you are, relative to societal control?

C'mon get this folks!

There are those who pull the puppet strings of our society. Yes there are. They hide but they are there. Some are voted by us to do so. Other's accumulate wealth and power by other means - they too provide societal control.

On the other hand - there are many, in fact most of us, who simply, "go along with the flow." Many of us who willingly and often ignorantly allow themselves to be controlled, to be puppets.

Society, any good one that is, one that's easy to live life in - is for the most part heavily controlled. Yep, it's self controlled by us, but only to a small extent - of course this is what the actual controller's will have you/me/us believe. They, the controller's don't want us thinking that they - the haves - are controlling the have nots. That would not be good. That is what causes revolutions.

So when I ask you - where do you fit in to all this? I am really asking about the depth and breadth of your personal self awareness and where you fit in. How much you know about things (the control via the puppeteers) relating to your position in life? How much do you know about your particular reality and how it relates to other's and how it relates to those who have power and are in control?

I mean - how many fucking personal puppet strings do you have on your life limbs - ones that you are aware of?

Then again maybe you - you are one of the puppeteers. Maybe you don't have any such strings - or very few - everyone has some.

So, I'll answer for myself. But let's make it even easier here.

Let's provide for a scale:

1 - would be that you think you know pretty much shit, pretty much about lots of things, all relative to living life. You realize that you, even though you allow puppeteers (those in power and societal control) "to think" they are controlling you. You play their game but fully realize what's going on. You see gray - you always read between the lines, you question everything, you only trust those very, very close to you.

10 - would be that you don't care about knowing all that much. You like, you prefer to be blissfully ignorant and in fact you don't think you are being societally controlled by those in power, because - you are so caught up in the mundane minutia of your self-absorbed life that you are blind to that fact. In fact you can't handle the idea of being controlled - it's too big of a concept for you to even grasp.

So, rate yourself - please. Where are you? Where's your head at?

Me? The Uber Spark? I'm about a 1.75.
 
About 2 to 2.5.

Although I want to be somwhere to the right of an absolute dictatorship. As long as I get to be the "boss".LOL

It would be good to be the "king".... coup d'etats be damned, I could get some shit done.
 
CB.....

I think you know yourself pretty damn well.

And you're so young and such a "life sponge" right now - you will be far, far ahead of me by the time you reach my age.

Remember, I said that I feel it's a cummulative thing - that is with increased intake of knowledge, which in turn builds upon your base of stored knowledge - you become more and more, whole as a person - more self aware of just who you are and where you fit in.

It's called wisdom by some.
 
Wisdom by some... delusions of grandeur by others.;)
 
Only because I have a HUGE FUCKING melon. Anyone elses would look small by comparison.

I build up the deserving and tear down pretenders. You would be one of the former CB.

That being said, whattya' mean. Association with me would be social suicide? Lack of self esteem by association? C'mon young lady out with it.
 
I'm cleary not very lucid today. Weirdness from yesterday continues. Sorry CB.

It was me being self depricating and flirtatious. Weird combo.

And no, if I were tearing you down you would be one of the latter.
 
2-3

closer to the 3 if we start talking about trust. I've a tendency to trust people first rather than suspect them. And, I don't know a lot of things about everything. I know a lot of things about some things.. and everything there is to know about sex.. hehe..
 
CB's a fine young woman....

And it's my strong hunch that she knows it too.

The thing is - she's got to let other's know it too. And not us folks here on this board - that's easy. She can be the CB she is here easier than she can in RL - so far.

It will take a little time - nobody is who they want to be in RL - early in life - or maybe ever in life.

The cool thing about CB is that she's entusiastically working on it.
 
Okay, okay......

This ain't that hard and only two people have had the balls to rate themselves......

What's the deal?
 
5'1"? Man!

Heels, heels, heels!!!

A Heather Lochlier business suit too.

Show some leg.

Attitude will follow.

Power will follow.

Sick'em girl.
 
Yes, no, maybe. I don't know. Could you repeat the question?

The answer is: i.

That's right, my rating is the square root of a negative number. I have no idea where I fit in.

Physically, I would say the powers that be control me utterly. There is not a lot I can do if, say, the feds come drag me away and lock me up for some perceived misdoing. Seriously, there really isn't. The ideas of that one phone call and access to a lawyer are pleasantries that, if denied, I couldn't do much about either until long after the fact. I live a pretty clean life, and the feds I'm sure are far too busy dealing with actual criminals, but that has nothing to do with how much control I have over them.

I'm not paranoid, really. It's just an example.

As far as 'buying the hype' goes, I'd say I'm pretty liberated. I'm a questioner. I want to know why someone says something is right or wrong. I want to know both sides of the issue, and I want to know not only what the wise men have to say but the village idiot as well. Even if I don't really care about the issue, I'm really into what people have to say.

I think for myself, but I would be lying if I said my upbringing and experiences didn't color the way I think. Society influences, but I have very little influence over society. However, influence and control aren't the same thing. I think control is an illusion. Even if you do everything you've got to do to ensure a good job, a nice house, a great family, and bathtubs full of cash, an act of nature, biology, or a drunk driver can take it all away.

The only thing you can control is what you do about it. It being life and all the bullshit that comes with it.

All I control is my actions. The more I learn, the more I realize I know -nothing-, and yet every day I make it through by this overwhelming sense of freedom and peace I can't even begin to describe.

And belated good morning to you, Mr. Kronkite.
 
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