The Passion of The Christ vs. The Passion Recut

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In an effort to appeal to a wider audience including those kept from viewing "The Passion of The Christ" because of its depictions of brutal violence, Mel Gibson is releasing a tamer version of the film March 11 called "The Passion Recut."

Gibson has edited at least six minutes out of the original film and is substituting different camera angles to show less blood and gore in the graphic scenes of the torture, scourge and crucifixion of Christ, according to The Dallas Morning News.

"The Passion Recut" has no rating, unlike "The Passion of The Christ" which had an R rating. Even though the film has no rating it is still probably too intense for children, but Mel hoped to make it more available for teens.

Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ is considered by some to be an offensive movie. Why? Does it contain sex or bad language? No. It's because it is the brutal and graphic depiction of the death of Jesus Christ. The Book of Isaiah prophesied that this brutal death would take place--the Messiah would be, ". . . bruised for our iniquities" and yet we are further told, ". . . it pleased the Lord to bruise him." (See Isaiah 53:5-10). What does this mean, and how does it affect you?

A small boy was once forbidden by his father from touching an antique vase. One day the child not only touched it, he accidentally broke it. But he wasn't concerned because he thought it could be easily replaced. When the father found out it was broken, he told his son that it was worth $25,000. It was only when the child understood the vase's true value that he saw the seriousness of his transgression and felt sorrow of heart. When the father saw that the child was truly sorry, he said, "Son, it's going to cost everything I have, but because I love you I will replace it myself."

To understand what an incredible thing God has done for you, let's look at your transgressions for a moment. Have you kept the Ten Commandments? Have you always loved God above all else? Or have you made a god to suit yourself? Have you ever used God's name to curse? Have you kept the Sabbath holy, and honored your father and mother? Have you hated anyone? God considers hatred to be as murder. Jesus said, "Whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart" (this includes sex before marriage). Have you looked with lust? Have you stolen anything? (The value of the item is irrelevant). Have you lied? (Including answering these questions). Have you ever desired what belongs to others? The Bible warns that the Day will come when God will punish all murderers, rapists, thieves, liars, adulterers, etc. He will even judge our words and thoughts. So, on Judgment Day will you be guilty or innocent? Perhaps you think that God is good, and He will overlook your sins. But it is His goodness that will make sure that murderers, rapists, thieves, liars, etc. receive justice. Or perhaps you think that your good deeds will outweigh the bad on that Day, but the fact that a criminal gives to charities has nothing to do with his crime. All the good works in the world will not bribe God to forgive your sins. Every transgression will be punished.

Can you see that you have broken the "vase" into a thousand pieces, and you can't make things right yourself? But God became a sinless Man to make us righteous in His sight. The horror of the cross reveals how angry He is about sin. The fact that He sees lust as adultery and hatred as murder shows us its serious nature, and that fact should help us feel sorrow for what we have done.

Think of what God did to make things right. Jesus of Nazareth was brutally bruised for our iniquities . . . "yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him." God loves you so much it pleased Him to make things right through the Cross, then He defeated the grave through the resurrection. The Bible says, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes on Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." Make sure that you trust put your trust in Jesus to save you or you will come under His fierce wrath, and end up in Hell.

God doesn't want that to happen, so confess your sins directly to Him right now (you may not have tomorrow), put your trust in Jesus to save you, and you will pass from death to life. Pray something like this: (Say out loud) "Jesus, I need You. I agree with You that I am a sinner. I believe You love me and want to save me. I believe that You bled and died on the cross to pay the penalty for my sins. I believe God raised You from the dead. I open the door of my life and receive You as my Savior and Lord. Thank You for forgiving my sins and giving me eternal life."

If you prayed the prayer and meant it, God heard you and has come into you. He has saved you and has given you a new life, because you've been born again and your name is written in the lamb's book of life. You are now a born again believer and a Christian son or daughter of God and you will spend eternity in heaven. Welcome to the family of God.

Salvation is not a reward but a gift. The Bible says it this way, "For it is by GRACE you have been SAVED, through faith and this not from yourselves, it is the GIFT of God." (Ephesians 2:8 )

Jesus said, " ... and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out." (John 6:37)

Nothing in this world is more important than the redemption that only Jesus can give.

The Bible says, "In Him(Jesus) we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins..." (Ephesians 1:7)

Now you are ready to discover your purpose in this life. Begin to walk with God daily by reading the bible and fellowshipping with other believers. Let the spirit of God work in and through you as you begin this new life.

(Luke 15:10) I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.
(II Corinthians) Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!

Start reading the Bible beginning with the gospel of John..

If you haven't decided yet, please make the only wise decision and walk through this door of forgiveness before it's eternally too late. We don't know exactly when we will die, this is why it is so important to get saved today because you may die prematurely in a traffic accident, terrorist attack or something else before you get another chance.

The Bible speaks of two places that we will spend eternity, either Heaven or Hell (a place of eternal torment). Wouldn't it be great to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that no matter what happens from this day forward you are Heaven bound? Oh friend, it would be terrible to die and go to Hell when all you have to do is accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior.

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Nice one Rideme.

And as you can see from my handle, TDW, I've already got my reward all lined up.
 
I have found him! He was lurking under the bed - dunno who he is but I will worship...
 
Wow... isn't that a warm reception?

Bah, they're just jealous 'cause we're winning.
 
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"Mommy, can I be a christian?"

"Absolutely not!!! They drink the blood of their dead!"
 
The beam in one's eye

TDW,
Looking at the material you posted, it's word for word, as below. Without crediting him, and ignoring his copyright, you appropriated Ray Comfort's material. This does not show much originality is responding to or explaining Christ's message. Further you have committed a kind of theft, which, as the piece says, will be punished appropriately, especially as it is so brazen. It also violates Literotica rules.



http://www.christiananswers.net/gospel/passionofchrist.html

Author: Ray Comfort. Text copyright, 2004, Living Waters Publications, a Team Member of ChristianAnswers.Net. The text of this page is available as a small tract from Living Waters Publications.

A small boy was once forbidden by his father from touching an antique vase (belonging to someone else). One day, the child not only touched it, he accidentally broke it. But he wasn't concerned because he thought it could be easily replaced. When the father found out it was broken, he told his son that it was worth $25,000.It was only when the child understood the vase's true value that he saw the seriousness of his transgression and felt sorrow of heart. When the father saw that the child was truly sorry, he said, "Son, it's going to cost everything I have, but because I love you I will replace it myself."To understand what an incredible thing God has done for you, let's look at your transgressions for a moment.

Have you kept the Ten Commandments? Have you always loved God above all else? Or have you made a god to suit yourself? Have you ever used God's name to curse? Have you kept the Sabbath holy, and honored your father and mother? Have you hated anyone? God considers hatred to be as murder.Jesus said, "Whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart" (this includes sex before marriage). Have you looked with lust?Have you stolen anything? (The value of the item is irrelevant). Have you lied? (Including answering these questions). Have you ever desired what belongs to others?The Bible warns that the Day will come when God will punish all murderers, rapists, thieves, liars, adulterers, etc. He will even judge our words and thoughts.

So, on Judgment Day will you be guilty or innocent?Perhaps you think that God is good, and He will overlook your sins. But it is His goodness that will make sure that murderers, rapists, thieves, liars, etc. receive justice.Or perhaps you think that your good deeds will outweigh the bad on that Day; but the fact that a criminal gives to charities has nothing to do with his crime. All the good works in the world will not bribe God to forgive your sins. Every transgression will be punished.
 
Pure, you sound as if you expect him to reply.

This was just a spam delivery.
 
TDW,the username gives it away really but if you're not just spamming I'll say hello. Ya know there was an interesting thread on the passion of christ here, pure started it. Lots of debating and what have you...I learnt alot from it actually.

Anyhow i eventually saw the passion on DVD....damn good in a soul hollowing kind of way butso veryvery bloody and gory.I get why but urgh it turned my stomach. Being the oint I guess *L*

So is there really gonna be a re cut version? if so seems either a good idea or awaste of time. 6 minutes doesn't sound much but if you loose much of the gore and guts you'd lookse theimpact methinks.

Anyhow..if this is just a spam thread I might as well take it and use it for my own entertainment ;)
 
The spam monger posted the same drivel all over the GB. As you might imagine it was received with even less tolerance than on the AH.

Bah.
 
I don't see what they think they'll achieve by spamming and running. Jesus didn't say "go forth and spam then run away*LOL*"

:)
 
Joe Wordsworth said:
Wow... isn't that a warm reception?

Bah, they're just jealous 'cause we're winning.
Huh?

Wotcha referring to? The reception of the movie? The reception of the post?

And who's winning? The Christians? The censors? The LA Lakers?

sincerily confuzzled,
#L
 
Cutting Mel G

A cinema in Sydney sold out by announcing a cut of about 2.5 hours from The Passion of the Christ and substituting some old WC Fields & Marx Bros stuff. :nana:
 
Evangelical Christians have a religious responsibility to witness. AS a tennet of their faith, it's no better or worse than a Muslim's responisbility to observe ramadan or a Catholic's responibility to confession or a Jew's responsibility to eat only kosher food on one level. On another level, it is an injunction to be obtrusive, into the lives of otherpeople, and while the goal is to save their immortal soul, it's still obtrusive. Some evangelicals take a long view, they build relationshps with people and witness only when A. the time is right and B. they have established in the person's mind, just what thier faith has done for them. This is in my mind, what witnessing is about. Showing in your everday life what your faith has done for you and sharing with people who have seen it, the founations of your faith, when they have reached a point in their lives where they are searching for answers.

Unfotuneatly, far too many don't see that witnessing is tied to knowing someone, to demonstating the strength of your faith in your day to day life and letting the open the dorr to sharing your beliefs. They treat their witness as something to be done confrontationally, adherents of the hard sell. You see them all over, handing out tacts and accosing folks as they exit them all or the grocery store.

It seems to me, the span & run technique is just an extention of this misunderstanding of what witness is. Dropping enjoinders to find christ on a site devoted to porn, is about as confrontational as you can get, unless you find a pagan board.

The point of witness is to bring people to Christ. It's a personal decision, one that requires you be avialable in a personal way to answer questions and help. this hard sell christianity dosen't generally, bring anyone into the fold and alienates far more than it interests. IMHO, this is detrimental to the cause of helping people find christ. As far from what witness is supposed to be as you can get, while still staying within the letter of the tennet.
 
Colleen Thomas said:
Evangelical Christians have a religious responsibility to witness. AS a tennet of their faith, it's no better or worse than a Muslim's responisbility to observe ramadan or a Catholic's responibility to confession or a Jew's responsibility to eat only kosher food on one level. On another level, it is an injunction to be obtrusive, into the lives of otherpeople, and while the goal is to save their immortal soul, it's still obtrusive. Some evangelicals take a long view, they build relationshps with people and witness only when A. the time is right and B. they have established in the person's mind, just what thier faith has done for them. This is in my mind, what witnessing is about. Showing in your everday life what your faith has done for you and sharing with people who have seen it, the founations of your faith, when they have reached a point in their lives where they are searching for answers.

Unfotuneatly, far too many don't see that witnessing is tied to knowing someone, to demonstating the strength of your faith in your day to day life and letting the open the dorr to sharing your beliefs. They treat their witness as something to be done confrontationally, adherents of the hard sell. You see them all over, handing out tacts and accosing folks as they exit them all or the grocery store.

It seems to me, the span & run technique is just an extention of this misunderstanding of what witness is. Dropping enjoinders to find christ on a site devoted to porn, is about as confrontational as you can get, unless you find a pagan board.

The point of witness is to bring people to Christ. It's a personal decision, one that requires you be avialable in a personal way to answer questions and help. this hard sell christianity dosen't generally, bring anyone into the fold and alienates far more than it interests. IMHO, this is detrimental to the cause of helping people find christ. As far from what witness is supposed to be as you can get, while still staying within the letter of the tennet.


Agreed totally. There are people given the talent to preach and their stand up infront of a group of folk and sell the bible thing works...because generallythe talk at church/christian type meetings/venues so there are many people to follow up on the 1 on 1 question answering that needs tobe done and the person has chosen to go and listen (or been dragged to by spouse/parent/friend/sibling*L*)

Cold calling, spam dropping,whatever is just the lazy way out really. take a message pop it in a porn forum and run! run! Run like the wind! Really takes no kind of love or caring.

I'm sure our friend has good intentions at heart. It at least seems so and if he/she comes back they should look in at

Christian Writers and readers thread

to see how we do it on a porn board *LMAO*
 
Mr. Melvin Gibson has made 280 million dollar from The Pissing On Christ, I hear.

Who's the dumb fucks?

Not Mr. Gibson, certainly.
 
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