The News Says that the Republican Brown is going to START with the Democrats

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

He was an important part of the building a majority strategy.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

He's waving the white flag!

Documents from the State Department published by WikiLeaks show that the Obama administration surrendered the missile shield previously planned by the Bush administration to Europe because of Russian demands, not because of any supposed intel reports.

The original missile defense scheme was devised by the Bush administration, which persuaded Poland and the Czech Republic to authorize missile defense systems (ten unarmed interceptors and a radar) to be deployed on their soil. In April 2008, Bush outmaneuvered Vladimir Putin by obtaining an endorsement of this scheme from all NATO allies before the Russian leader reached Bucharest for the NATO-Russia summit.

Russia has always opposed this scheme, putatively because the scheme would undermine Russia's nuclear deterrent (which it wouldn't -- ten unarmed interceptors can't undermine an arsenal of hundreds of ICBMs and SLBMs as well as 113 strategic bombers). Really, Russia is in the middle of selling a nuclear reactor and tons of nuclear fuel to Iran, and the Kremlin doesn't want the West to be able to defend itself against the incipient Iranian nuclear threat. Russia is also eager to claw Central Europe back into its sphere of influence.

Bush wisely chose not to succumb to Moscow, but he was replaced in 2009 by Barack Obama.

The leaked documents indicate that Obama's first eight months as president boiled over with Russian threats not to cooperate with the U.S. on any issue whatsoever (be it Iran, North Korea, space exploration, START negotiations, or anything else) barring cancelation of U.S. missile defense plans. During meetings with American officials, the Russians would repeatedly interrupt American diplomats who tried to discuss anything but missile defense.

The Kremlin's message was this: you must capitulate on missile defense (and strategic arms), or else we won't even discuss (let alone cooperate on) other issues. Eager to appease Russia, the Obama Administration naïvely surrendered missile defense plans on September 17, 2009.

Administration officials, including Obama and Bob Gates, are now falsely claiming that their surrender had nothing to do with Russia and was instead dictated by claimed new intel. Supposedly, Iran's priority is now the development of short- and medium-range ballistic missiles rather than IRBMs and ICBMs (against which the Bush missile shield was designed to be effective).

Just the sort of tough politicians we can be proud of!!!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/12/why_obama_surrendered_the_miss.html

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

The Heritage Foundation and the nonpartisan CBO say that the deployment of ten interceptors in Poland and a radar in the Czech Republic would be only half as expensive as the deployment of Aegis-type warships to Europe. And these Bush-planned defensive systems would protect Europe much better against Iranian missiles than the systems Obama has offered.

Nor has Obama's concession to Russia been reciprocated. Russia has not stopped backing Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, and Syria. It has not allowed any serious sanctions to be approved by the UNSC. Putin hasn't even toned down his comments about the U.S.

In short, Obama has succumbed to Moscow for nothing. Now he is advertising a pseudo-missile-defense scheme which is decisively inferior to the Bush plan. It is time for the Congress and GOP presidential candidates to review this issue.

You just HAVE to love those squishy moderates who can get elected in Democrat states. They'll vote with you 75% of the time!

 

[Powertone]

he's hoping his daughters won't be called skanky sluts by the media if he cozies up to the DEMS

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

He's Palinizing his office...





*snicker*

 

[RobDownSouth]

It's good to see that at least one Republican is willing to put country before party.


Seriously, AJ, every single living former President and Secretary of Defense (Republican and Democrat) thinks this treaty is beneficial for America.

Why do you suppose most Republicans are against it?

Tell us.

 

[Pookie]

It's good to see that at least one Republican is willing to put country before party.


Seriously, AJ, every single living former President and Secretary of Defense (Republican and Democrat) thinks this treaty is beneficial for America.

Why do you suppose most Republicans are against it?

Tell us.

Most of them are in zombie mode now. Must stop the Democrats.

Jim DeMint is still looking for Waterloo.

 

[hogjack]

he's hoping his daughters won't be called skanky sluts by the media if he cozies up to the DEMS

Hitting on the teenies again, Powertone?

You are soooooo bad.

 

[hogjack]

Why do you suppose most Republicans are against it?

The Republican Party marches to the beat of Mr. Limbaugh's drum.

That's always the answer of "Why?".

 

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[moman75]

The reason for the dissent is more of the same crap: Democrats trying to ram this stuff through during their lame-duck session. They're using the media (as usual) to try to manufacture a "crisis" that demands quick passage.

 

[islandman]

The reason for the dissent is more of the same crap: Democrats trying to ram this stuff through during their lame-duck session. They're using the media (as usual) to try to manufacture a "crisis" that demands quick passage.

Given that the text of the bill hasn't changed since April, I think you just called Republicans, as a whole, idiots who can't read.

 

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[mercury14]

You just HAVE to love those squishy moderates who can get elected in Democrat states. They'll vote with you 75% of the time!

Maybe he wants to do what's right for the country more than he wants to vote with you?

 

[islandman]

Absolutely! The state controlled media is on the job creating a politically smooth segway from one left wing wet dream scenario to the next.

You're delusional and to the point at which you're losing command of the English language.


se·gue

–verb
1.
to continue at once with the next musical section or composition (often used as a musical direction).
2.
to perform in the manner of the preceding section (used as a musical direction).
3.
to make a transition from one thing to another smoothly and without interruption: The conversation segued from travel anecdotes to food.


Segway:

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[RobDownSouth]

The reason for the dissent is more of the same crap: Democrats trying to ram this stuff through during their lame-duck session. They're using the media (as usual) to try to manufacture a "crisis" that demands quick passage.

By most measurements, this has been one of the most extraordinarily productive "lame duck" sessions of Congress ever.

Think about it...

• DADT repeal finally passed
• Food Safety bill passed
• Good chance of New Start treaty passing
• Tax cuts for middle class passed

We didn't get the DREAM act passed, but it was still a positive as it put Republicans on record as opposing legal AND illegal Hispanic immigration.

 

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[hogjack]

Oh shit, wrong thread.

That's assuming there is a correct thread.

They're all wrong threads.

 

[moman75]

By most measurements, this has been one of the most extraordinarily productive "lame duck" sessions of Congress ever.

Think about it...

• DADT repeal finally passed
• Food Safety bill passed
• Good chance of New Start treaty passing
• Tax cuts for middle class passed

We didn't get the DREAM act passed, but it was still a positive as it put Republicans on record as opposing legal AND illegal Hispanic immigration.

Now there is an outrageous statement! Let's break 'em down:

*DADT ....so what?
* "Food Safety Bill": sounds good on the surface, but all it does is empower government to regulate more, throwing garbage into the safest food supply on the planet.
* START: more gobbledygook that weakens the US while kissing the ass of our enemies.
* Tax cuts for the middle class: wtf are you talking about?

All this crap is being sold as "progress", "reform", and other squeaky little terms that bear no resemblance to the actual provisions of the bills, or their possible effects.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Now there is an outrageous statement! Let's break 'em down:

*DADT ....so what?
* "Food Safety Bill": sounds good on the surface, but all it does is empower government to regulate more, throwing garbage into the safest food supply on the planet.
* START: more gobbledygook that weakens the US while kissing the ass of our enemies.
* Tax cuts for the middle class: wtf are you talking about?

All this crap is being sold as "progress", "reform", and other squeaky little terms that bear no resemblance to the actual provisions of the bills, or their possible effects.

Awww, I got me a shiny new troll, just in time for Christmas!

 

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[RobDownSouth]

But no answer...

I don't feed the trolls.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Senate just voted overwhelmingly to end the New START filibuster 67-28.

12 Republicans opted to put the security of their country above the needs of their political party.

Final vote expected tomorrow.

Thank you, President Obama, for your inspired leadership in getting this important treaty ratified.

 

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