"The New Year's Party Ch. 02" by Yours Truly

jackal_man

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This thread is centered around the following submission of mine:

The New Year's Party: Ch. 02
Category: Incest/Taboo
Author: jackal_man (myself)

Hey everyone. I've been frequenting Literotica for several years now, but I only started submitting works about two and a half years ago. As for posting on these forums, I do believe this is my first post.

Anyway. Back in March, I submitted a story entitled The New Year's Party, an incest/taboo story focusing on a college-aged brother/sister duo. I'd been working on it for a while and finally got around to submitting it. It met mostly positive reviews, and I received a fair amount of feedback, both anonymous and in the User Comments section. I planned on writing follow-ups to the story, as I really enjoyed the setting, as well as the characters I strung together.

Last week, I got around to doing just that, and I submitted The New Year's Party Ch. 02, which was finally approved last night.

For those who haven't read it yet but are planning on it, be warned. This post, as well as the rest of this thread, will likely contain spoilers.

Let's just say that this chapter was indeed a departure from the first installment. Whereas Chapter 1 had a brother-sister pairing, Chapter 2 deviated from this formula. Instead of straight-forward brother-sister sex, the pairing was actually between the sister and one of her brother's friends. The "incest/taboo" element basically stemmed from the sister coming to terms with her attraction to her brother. This is illustrated through her fantasizing about her brother whilst having sex with his best friend.

I can understand why readers were thrown by this change. The story was a sequel to an incest story involving a brother and sister, yet it contained no incestuous sex at all.

"What the fuck, jackalman?"

So believe me, I understand where the dismay is coming from.

I'm no stranger to receiving negative and/or positive feedback. It isn't in my nature to make "excuses" for my submissions, yet I can't control how readers perceive a certain story that I've written.

However, for clarity's sake, please understand that a third chapter is being written. Chapter 2 was meant to be an interim chapter, offering a brief respite from the first chapter while hinting at the forbidden pairing. Hence, the subtitle "Revelations."

I started this thread, of course, to allow additional public discussion of this installment, but also to dismiss any misgivings readers may have about the direction the story is taking. Chapter 3 will mark a return to what was being established in both Chapters 1 and 2.

As always, feedback is more than welcome. I thrive on it, in fact. ;)

Thanks for reading!
-JM
 
jackal_man said:
This thread is centered around the following submission of mine:

The New Year's Party: Ch. 02
Category: Incest/Taboo
Author: jackal_man (myself)

Hey everyone. I've been frequenting Literotica for several years now, but I only started submitting works about two and a half years ago. As for posting on these forums, I do believe this is my first post.

Anyway. Back in March, I submitted a story entitled The New Year's Party, an incest/taboo story focusing on a college-aged brother/sister duo. I'd been working on it for a while and finally got around to submitting it. It met mostly positive reviews, and I received a fair amount of feedback, both anonymous and in the User Comments section. I planned on writing follow-ups to the story, as I really enjoyed the setting, as well as the characters I strung together.

Last week, I got around to doing just that, and I submitted The New Year's Party Ch. 02, which was finally approved last night.

For those who haven't read it yet but are planning on it, be warned. This post, as well as the rest of this thread, will likely contain spoilers.

Let's just say that this chapter was indeed a departure from the first installment. Whereas Chapter 1 had a brother-sister pairing, Chapter 2 deviated from this formula. Instead of straight-forward brother-sister sex, the pairing was actually between the sister and one of her brother's friends. The "incest/taboo" element basically stemmed from the sister coming to terms with her attraction to her brother. This is illustrated through her fantasizing about her brother whilst having sex with his best friend.

I can understand why readers were thrown by this change. The story was a sequel to an incest story involving a brother and sister, yet it contained no incestuous sex at all.

"What the fuck, jackalman?"

So believe me, I understand where the dismay is coming from.

I'm no stranger to receiving negative and/or positive feedback. It isn't in my nature to make "excuses" for my submissions, yet I can't control how readers perceive a certain story that I've written.

However, for clarity's sake, please understand that a third chapter is being written. Chapter 2 was meant to be an interim chapter, offering a brief respite from the first chapter while hinting at the forbidden pairing. Hence, the subtitle "Revelations."

I started this thread, of course, to allow additional public discussion of this installment, but also to dismiss any misgivings readers may have about the direction the story is taking. Chapter 3 will mark a return to what was being established in both Chapters 1 and 2.

As always, feedback is more than welcome. I thrive on it, in fact. ;)

Thanks for reading!
-JM

Doubt readers of the story will make a connection with a thread on this forum, so you'll probably keep getting "eh, what?" comments on the direct story comments. This is one reason to write or at least outline out whole works before submitting them in the "chapter" context. If you go out of the first-chosen category with a subsequent chapter, you just have to swallow readers being disappointed about that. (There is a category for chapter-by-chapter novelizations here to counter that--it's the "Novels" category.) If you submit "transition" chapters that don't do much of anything themselves, you have to expect "this chapter doesn't do much" comments. The technique to avoid that is to make each chapter interesting and exciting on its own strength.
 
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Before submitting Chapter 2, I half-expected those sorts of responses to come out in the direct feedback section. I suppose it was a gamble making a transition chapter, but then again, I'd never written an original sequel to anything before, so I suppose it's a part of the learning process.

I could've chosen to take the second installment in a different direction that would've resulted in more "immediate" gratification for the readers, but I decided to take it a bit slower. I wrote and posted chapter 2 with a specific follow-up planned, which I'm currently working on.

Anyway, no regrets on my part. We learn by doing, as it were. Like I said, I just wanted to post here for the purposes of clarification and additional feedback.

Thanks for the input, sr71plt. Much appreciated.

-JM
 
jackal man, I'm a bit scared here because what I've got to say will upset those neanderthals who drag their knuckles over the ground at another implausible incest romp.

You write very well. Your second chapter of New Year's Party was so much better than than the first.

I'm not a great fan of the incest category, not because it is abuse, quite the opposite. It is more childish and unbelievable than 'The Three Little Piggies'.

Generally (but not always - there are some serious works here), 'Incest' is populated by people who are simply interested in undemanding, characterless, stroke stories - using the taboo idea to hide the fact they can't, in their writing, develop tension, conflict and reader interest without the cheap backdrop.

You got poor reviews for your second part, IMHO, because you suddenly started to write plot, develop characters and get away from the Punch and Judy stuff of Incest.

If youtake my advice, few do, you'll drop the celebs and the incest and go for an erotic couplings where you control the characters.

From what I've seen, you're more than capable of it - and, that's where you'll find your readership. If I can help, give me ashout.
 
From the bottom of my heart, thanks a million for the kind words, elfin. I'm sure you know exactly where I'm coming from when I say that thoughtful feedback is one of the most uplifting things a writer can receive.

I won't go so far as to say that the readers giving me negative feedback don't "get it," because everyone's entitled to an opinion. They're allowed to take whatever they want from a story, and I respect that. Loads of readers in this community are looking for their daily thrill, and I don't blame them; there are times when I'm the same way. However, from a writer's stand point, it's refreshing to see another person who identifies with the approach I'm taking.

But oh man... some of the public feedback I'm getting is pure gold. Chapters 1 and 2 have been compared to the first and second Highlander movies, respectively. If you're unfamiliar, swing by IMDb and check their respective ratings.

Another bit of feedback was from a French person trying to post in English. It was severely broken and all over the place, but I think it was supposed to be positive. If you have a spare minute, I encourage you to check it out; it gave me a chuckle. Not because the person couldn't speak proper English, but because the message was so damned lost in translation that it came off as hilarious.

Funny part? I speak French, so he (or she) would've been better off with the native tongue.

Anywho... thanks again. Your advice is sound, and your offer is generous. If I need help in the future, I'll remember to look you up. :)
 
jackal man

I don't normally come back, but you are so lovely, I had to..

Seriously, you write well, and I would love you to turn your hand at a simple (not rude) erotic love story.

If you want an edit, I'd be willing to help, but just don't leave it too long to have a go.

Have some confidence, write a story and there are several guys here who would love to give you our (arrogant) help.
 
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