The new New York gun laws.

[koalabear]

* ban on pre 1994 mags with cap of 11 or more
* ban on mags over 7 rounds
* background checks on all ammo purchases
* mental health reporting which is to be checked against the (new??) gun registry database
* 1 feature test for AW. Bushmaster AR banned by name
* 10 round mags to be grandfathered in but may only be loaded with 7 rounds (read elsewhere this will be a misdemeanor)
* all sales of ammo from registered ammo dealers to be reported to local police
* background check on all ammo purchases
* ban of direct internet ammo purchases
* ammo purchases to go through FFL
* five year renewable registration for AW and handguns

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2230-2013

 

[blobfish]

The shopkeeps on the Pennsylvania border are smiling.

 

[XdOu™]

i still see new york the same... people over there are nuts.

 

[BotanyBoy]

LOL sounds like a whole bunch of useless paperwork....well we will see if the left wing is right when NY gun crime plummets after this law. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Liar]

* ban on pre 1994 mags with cap of 11 or more
* ban on mags over 7 rounds
* background checks on all ammo purchases
* mental health reporting which is to be checked against the (new??) gun registry database
* 1 feature test for AW. Bushmaster AR banned by name
* 10 round mags to be grandfathered in but may only be loaded with 7 rounds (read elsewhere this will be a misdemeanor)
* all sales of ammo from registered ammo dealers to be reported to local police
* background check on all ammo purchases
* ban of direct internet ammo purchases
* ammo purchases to go through FFL
* five year renewable registration for AW and handguns

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2230-2013

I wonder, will there also be background check on all ammo purchases?

And maybe background check on all ammo purchases?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

* ban on pre 1994 mags with cap of 11 or more
* ban on mags over 7 rounds
* background checks on all ammo purchases
* mental health reporting which is to be checked against the (new??) gun registry database
* 1 feature test for AW. Bushmaster AR banned by name
* 10 round mags to be grandfathered in but may only be loaded with 7 rounds (read elsewhere this will be a misdemeanor)
* all sales of ammo from registered ammo dealers to be reported to local police
* background check on all ammo purchases
* ban of direct internet ammo purchases
* ammo purchases to go through FFL
* five year renewable registration for AW and handguns

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2230-2013

If you cannot cow them with your rhetoric into doing what you view to be the right thing, then turn them into criminals and suspects.

A variation on the old, "If you don't have anything to hide, why do you object," sophism...

"Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim - when he defends himself - as a criminal.”
Frédéric Bastiat

 

[XdOu™]

LOL sounds like a whole bunch of useless paperwork....

word...

 

[kbate]

I wonder how many mental health professionals will refuse to comply? They've always been worried that requirements to report to police would prevent those in need from seeking help.

I suppose they can pay their fine along with the drug dealers who decide to go ahead and load all 30 rounds in their magazine instead of 7.

 

[Byron In Exile]

The shopkeeps on the Pennsylvania border are smiling.

Exactly.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

...

The current liberal crusade for more so-called gun-control laws is more of the same. Factual studies over the years, both in the United States and in other countries, repeatedly show that “gun control” laws do not in fact reduce crimes committed with guns.

Cities with some of the tightest gun-control laws in the nation have murder rates far above the national average. In the middle of the 20th century, New York had far more restrictive gun-control laws than did London, but London had far less gun crime. Yet gun crimes in London skyrocketed after severe gun-control laws were imposed over the next several decades.

Although gun control is not usually considered a racial issue, a wholly disproportionate number of Americans killed by guns are black. But here, as elsewhere, liberals’ devotion to their ideology greatly exceeds their concern about what actually happens to flesh-and-blood human beings as a result of their ideology.

One of the most polarizing and counterproductive liberal crusades of the 20th century has been the decades-long busing crusade to send black children to predominantly white schools. The idea behind this goes back to the pronouncement by Chief Justice Earl Warren that “separate educational facilities are inherently unequal.”

Yet within walking distance of the Supreme Court building where this pronouncement was made was an all-black high school that had scored higher than two-thirds of the city’s white high schools taking the same test — way back in 1899! But who cares about facts, when you are on a liberal crusade that makes you feel morally superior?

To challenge government-imposed racial segregation and discrimination is one thing. But to claim that blacks get a better education if they sit next to whites in school is something very different. And it is something that goes counter to the facts.

Many liberal ideas about race sound plausible, and it is understandable that these ideas might have been attractive 50 years ago. What is not understandable is how so many liberals can blindly ignore 50 years of evidence to the contrary since then.

Thomas Sowell
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/337678/liberalism-versus-blacks-thomas-sowell

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I'm reading a history of Germanys Weimar Republic. Historians ignore it because the facts dont flatter socialists, the French, Jews, and the rest of the Usual Suspect crew.

But what happened is Germany and Austria had socialist governments after World War 1, and these governments went hog wild with hiring, free stuff, nuisance laws, deficits, taxes, and printing money. The Swiss made do with 2 workers per mile of railroad track, The Germans had 3. The Germans taxed everything, even company at your home for dinner or swinging or Bible study. Gluttony was a felony crime with 5 years in prison.

Its our future until a Hitler comes along and starts shooting socialist pols.

 

[Byron In Exile]

I wonder how many mental health professionals will refuse to comply? They've always been worried that requirements to report to police would prevent those in need from seeking help.

I suppose they can pay their fine along with the drug dealers who decide to go ahead and load all 30 rounds in their magazine instead of 7.

How long is the drive from Newark to New York?

You want someone clipped you don't hire local, anyway.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The Last Knight of Liberalism, Hülsmann

Traces the Vienna experiment in some detail. What is amazing is the hubris displayed by the young Liberals of the age impressed with new technology and convinced that Society had "evolved."

I see that on almost a daily basis from our Liberal posters.

 

[the_kuntess]

The Last Knight of Liberalism, Hülsmann

Traces the Vienna experiment in some detail. What is amazing is the hubris displayed by the young Liberals of the age impressed with new technology and convinced that Society had "evolved."

I see that on almost a daily basis from our Liberal posters.

Ok. So, tell me then, exactly at what date did society cease to change and become a static entity?

 

[koalabear]

I wonder, will there also be background check on all ammo purchases?

And maybe background check on all ammo purchases?

Just reload your own.

 

[sufisaint]

I am absolutely disgusted by the sheeple of New York....a state full of greedy selfish thieves who hold this country financial hostage with false debts and ponzi schemes....but the end is near....

 

[koalabear]

Ban Bushmaster by name. Freedom Group owns Bushmaster, they also own Remington. So just buy a Remington AR.

 

[koalabear]

 

[chillywilly2]

Is that a nail gun?

 

[koalabear]

Is that a nail gun?

That's one way of putting it.

 

[SeaDaddy1]

If I plug it in, will it recharge on it's own?

 

[DemianBiros]

Well,can see that there's going to be a lot of cartridges and magazines moving up the Eastern Seaboard in the next few months,along with all those cartons of Marlboro Reds and Newports that arn't taxed at the N.Y. rates.

 

[SeaDaddy1]

The only thing NY is doing is making it more profitable for gun sellers on the black market and easier for criminals.

And if people are registering their guns, they're already showing some mental stability by complying with the law.

 

[fgarvb1]

Why would New Yorkers put up with this crap?


Well,

The criminals don't give a damn...they are criminals!

 

[SeaDaddy1]

Why would New Yorkers put up with this crap?


Well,

The criminals don't give a damn...they are criminals!

See what happens in NY state when NYC bans super-sized sodas?