The Mountain

[bluntforcemama]

I cried after I read this story. It was very well written, and a very enticing plot. Unfortunately I can't believe it was without love. It was cruel and focused on evil. I can't believe that there can be people out there like the men in this story. It was a fantastic story, but I can't like it. And to the author, I'm sorry.

 

[Persephone]

". I can't believe that there can be people out there like the men in this story"

You can't? Where do you live, hon? I wanna move there.

I have an aversion for evil, too, especially if it includes sexual violence. I can't watch TV or news shows in which this is the subject. But it IS a reality, albeit an ugly one.

Sylvia's story was so extrordinarily well written, so literate and intelligent, that I had to appreciate her story. It was really a compelling read. The ending, I believe, was really a triumph over the evil of the rapists. They were defeated and destroyed utterly by their victim who is surely empowered by this act.

Sylvia is a great author and I look forward to more submissions from her.

Angel, I only wish that the reality of "people out there like the men in the story" was not so.

 

[Persephone]

Corection

I meant Myst, not Angel. Sorry.

 

[sylviarockon]

Myst, I read your thread and as the author of The Mountain I wanted to respond, not to justify but clarify maybe?

I really appreciate the positive comments made by Kerrie and Persephone (thank you). I think they were also spot on in terms of what I was trying to get at in the story. In the real world rape is done by men (mostly) who you might pass on the street. It is a gruesome thought, but we know that these things happen. So, I understand your gut reaction, it was actually mine when I was writing the tale. Why write it then?

I wrote to someone who asked me about the story and tried to explain how/why I wrote something that is so disturbing. I'm not going to psychoanalyze myself here, I'll leave that to my critics. Bottom line is that The Mountain is a story that explores a particular situation of violence and rape and the dynamics of the particular characters involved.

I won't go on and on. I'm sorry you didn't like it, Myst, but I fully understand why. Forgive my literary ignorance here, but I think someone once said something like, good writing/art disturbs or provokes people. Maybe that was partly my goal.

Sylvia

[Edited by sylviarockon on 02-16-2001 at 01:58 PM]

 

[bluntforcemama]

I really believe that Sylvia has an AMAZING gift, she really makes the reader feel what the main character feels. At the moment, all I can think of is getting a bomb and dropping it on every rapist out there. I think Sylvia has revolutionized my entire thinking on the issue of nonconsent. And I, too, am looking forward to another submission by her. I think that "The Mountain" is going to haunt my thinking for a VERY long time.

 

[vgrey]

Disturbing in the best possible sense...

I thought that "The Mountain" was a truly gripping thriller with well developed characters and situations. I hope that Silvia will keep contributing stories to the site. She must have struck a nerve to get this thread going.

The important thing is to seperate fantasy from reality and to remember that this is a well written work of FICTION.

I didn't feel that rape was being condoned in this story.
At the same time, I completly understand how this story could rattle the nerves of some readers. My advice to those who find true non-consensual themes disturbing would be to avoid the non-consent section.
VG

 

[Katerina Val-Kyrie]

Excellent work!

Sylvia, I read your story on Friday night, and could not finish until I finished all 7 pages. It had me rivited right till the very end. I have not delved into the non-consent category to much, other than reading Whisper's Hostile Takeover. I had so many mixed feelings reading this story, I don't even know where to begin.

I really felt like I was right there with Sara, as you described everything in great detail. I felt revulsion regarding the acts of violence, yet at the same time, I could not stop reading. A part of me found the forbidden very compelling to read. I think it was more because I have never read a non-consent story with bestiality before, and it was almost too unbelievable to imagine. Yet, I could not stop reading, not for one minute.

You have definately succeeded in pulling your readers into the story. What an amazing writer you are. Even though the content was disturbing, you wrote it incredibly well. The ending was excellent by the way. Just thought I'd share.

I know this type of story would be highly disturbing to some, but we all know, if it bothers us, we simply do not go there.

When I read Kerrie's comments, I just had to check your story out, regardless. I think, Kerrie, too, is an amazing writer, so I value her opinion. Also, I do enjoy thrillers and as vgrey stated, it was a very gripping one. I was drawn in immediately and it definately made me feel so many emotions. Only excellent writers can pull this off, and you my friend, did it.

Keep up the great work Sylvia, I do look forward to reading more of your writings. I'm glad you stated in your profile, that your mind is diverse. I can't wait to see what else you come up with! Oh, by the way, I gave you a 5, you deserved it!

Hugs Katerina

[Edited by Katerina Val-Kyrie on 02-24-2001 at 10:30 AM]

 

[Frederick Carol]

I'd like to include myself in the list of Sylvia's admirers. This is a compelling story which not only hooked me but held me. Well-written, taut and totally enthralling. I liked it as a piece of compelling fiction, but it could easily make me ashamed to be male.

I was really rooting for Sara on that mountain!

Keep writing Sylvia, please, keep writing.

 

[Katerina Val-Kyrie]

So very haunting

I woke up Saturday morning, and, Slyvia, your story came to my mind, yet again. It was like seeing a movie that really truly affects you. One that stays within your mind for a very long time. Your story was like that in every way. The descriptives were keen, the actions so vile, yet at the same time, I could not tear myself away. I felt Sara's anguish, her pain. I felt her anger, her hatred. I felt her tears, and her revulsion to the acts bestowed upon her. My heart pounded, and my emotions ran high as I read, yet, I still could not stop. You had my full attention throughout the story, nothing could have stopped me from finishing it. I too, rooted for Sarah, and knew with her strength and will to live, she would defeat her attackers in the end. You did not disappoint me.

Slyvia, I also write for Literotica, but my stories are of the romantic nature. Well this may be boring to some, I like to think my work is enjoyed too. At least I hope it is. I guess I am just a romantic at heart. I have to say though, writers in this category are, too, pretty amazing. I have never thought of writing anything other than romance as of yet. I think this part of erotica is a comfort zone for me. I do have to learn to delve into different areas I suppose; perhaps that will come in time.

Never in my imagination, could I have come up with a story like you did. I think that was a part of the fasination, because it was something I could never do. Again, even though, the nature was quite disturbing, it was truly a compelling story. You have an amazing gift, Slyvia, and you could go far in your writing. Keep up the great work! I look forward to see what you will share with us next.

Hugs KitKat

[Edited by Katerina Val-Kyrie on 02-26-2001 at 01:06 PM]

 

[Katerina Val-Kyrie]

For those of you who like easy access, I took the liberty of sharing the link to Sylvia's story.

The Mountain

Kat

 

[His Whimsicality]

Just finished 'The Mountain' - dark, vivid and thrilling. Gave it a 5. Interesting that such a dark story of rape sprang from a female mind...

 

[sylviarockon]

Wow! Thank you all for sharing your thoughts on The Mountain. It means alot to someone like me just starting out. As you can see from the little green icon, you have put a very wide smile on my face.

So many comments to respond to, I apologize if I can't get to them all here. Email me! I love to chat via email.

As an aside, the story was almost going to be posted (or I've heard banished) to the extreme section because of its disturbing content. Laurel gave it a reprieve by posting it to the nonconsent section anyway so it would have a better chance of being read (thanks Laurel!). Reading your feedback makes me glad that it is available on Literotica. I was very nervous posting it as my first story, I had others that are not nearly as dark that I could have started with, but somehow I knew The Mountain was one of the most compelling and disturbing stories I've written. I'm glad that most have found it as such.

Katerina - thanks for sharing your feelings and for posting a link to the story. I know when I was writing it that I was at times filled with revulsion but I couldn't stop writing it. I'm moved that you were able to feel what I was trying to get across. I wanted to get Sara's feelings of revulsion, humiliation and her helplessness and fury across, maybe so that her retribution would be all the more powerful and gratifying.

As Kerrie mentioned, it was also meant to be "intensely erotic" and eroticizing nonconsent/rape is not for everyone. Even though it is just fiction many people may find it too disturbing to read (see vgrey's comment). Here comes an admission, I am not a fan of incest stories. Although I did haunt the site to read GH Lawrence's story about the 18 year old and his buxom Mom(title escapes me sorry) which I did find quite erotic. A good romance erotic story is not boring in the least. I'll drop by and read some of yours Kit Kat

I don't want to delve too deeply as to why I write nonconsent - as "His Whimsicality" mentioned, it is unusual for something so dark to come from a female mind - but that's a whole other thread. I will say that women can have dark, furtive imaginations just like some men - I personally don't think men and women are that much different - it is all about how much we conform to gender expectations/stereotypes. As I said, a whole other thread - don't get me started on gender ... or do

I have submitted a new story though and - here's a warning for those who want more like The Mountain - it is NOT in any way, shape or form like my first story (except, hopefully, it is well written). It is called Tennis and is a short vignette which will soon be posted (hopefully) in the Erotic Coupling section. Please let me know what you think.

Cheers,
Sylvia

 

[bluntforcemama]

Much more my style, Sylvia... I loved it.