The Most Divided Country... No, it's the most divided liberals...

[Chris_Michael]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/4/black-lives-matter-shuts-down-toronto-gay-pride-pa/

Black Lives Matter have to be a bunch of cunts and block off the Toronto Gay Pride Parade until their demands were met. Of course, their demands were to rid the parade of cops because cops are white men wanting to kill black people. Yeeaaahh...

"Donald Trump is the most divisive president in US history."

Is he? Or is it that the country was already at the peak of division? Because that seems more like it. Trump wasn't around when SJW groups started to break up and form hierarchies among their own damn groups. Which brings me to my next point...

Infighting. All the liberals can agree that the Republicans are the most evil people ever, but they then fight among themselves.

Are you a white male? You are at the bottom.
Are you a white woman? You're just above white men. You can complain about pay gaps only if you agree that black people have an even worse pay gap than you.
Are you a black man? Shut up until we need you. You're above women, but only when we say so.
Are you a black woman? Welcome to the sisterhood.
Are you a Muslim? Welcome, my brother.

Our Queen is a disabled, homosexual, transgender non-binary, black, Muslim woman.

This is our liberal friends who talk about how divisive Trump is. Democrats, you are divided enough for the entire country. You're so divided that you have pushed your center left OUT because real people with brains don't do this shit.

BUH BUH BUH THE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP AND HITLER LOVERS AND... yeah, we're not talking about them. That's not our concern, now is it? We want to make a better Democratic party.

CORRECT? Or all you all fucking retarded tribalistic morons who refuse to concede until you lose to a goddamn reality TV star?

Well, I bet all those Trump voters are regretting it right now! No. No. Quit. Stop looking at the other side and reflect upon your goddamn self instead of making excuses. It's really not that hard to think, "Hm... maybe I'm not right about everything." How do you think I became an atheist? I "hate watched" a bunch of atheists until I started to think they actually made a little bit of sense.

In other words, you're acting like a goddamn religious cult. And you know I'm right. That's the sad thing. One Democrat will stand aside and think, "You know, I think maybe we should be a little more reasonable." And the rest of you flock in droves yelling "HITLER!!!!! OMFG YOU'RE HITLER AND RACIST AND MISOGYNISTIC and HOMOPHOBIC AND TRANSPHOBIC!!! TRUMP VOTER!!! OMG"

Uhhh oh... no sorry... I was just thinking about what I was going to eat for lunch.

"ANIMAL KILLER BECAUSE WE'RE UPSET VEGANS!!! MURDERER!!!"

Again, do I need to point out that a TV Reality star who's a 70yo billionaire defeated your shit candidate?

"RUSSIA!!! YOU PUTIN LOVER!!!"

Oh god, I gotta go... fucking idiots.

 

[sr71plt]

Typical of you to be ignoring the recently obvious deep division among the Republicans (both introparty divisions and divisions between Executive and Legislative arms) shown in the health care bill debacle.

No need to read beyond your headline to know you are shoveling crap.

 

[Chris_Michael]

Typical of you to be ignoring the recently obvious deep division among the Republicans (both introparty divisions and divisions between Executive and Legislative arms) shown in the health care bill debacle.

No need to read beyond your headline to know you are shoveling crap.

What part of "We're not talking about Republicans" do you not understand? Are you that dense?

Do you even want a solid Democratic party?

I mean seriously? Are you this fucking tribalistic and cornered that all you can do is point out how bad the Republicans are?

WHAT CAN DEMOCRATS DO TO MAKE A BETTER PARTY? Guess who's vote you're trying to win.

MINE!!! And I was two seconds away from voting Hillary because I was thinking about how fucking terrible Trump's economic policies were. But I didn't.

So no matter what you say, you want me on your team. RIGHT? Or do you want to stay divided? Because if that's what you want, it doesn't seem like a president will do shit to change how you feel about my position.

You think I'm your enemy. I'm a person, and you may even get along with me if we were in the same room. But no, we're going to stay in our own little echo chamber where we're always right and we still lost the election.

Do you want our vote? Do you even want it? Does the Democratic Party want my vote? I mean, I'm not sure that you do. I've shown compromise on the gun issue, and I'm definitely with you on the financial side of things. Hell, Republicans would call me a fucking socialist!

Because it seems to me that you're too prideful. And so is everybody else who desperately needs MY vote. Quit demonizing people like me for thinking rationally. That's how you lose. And you're losing by 100% right now to fucking nutjob Christians who want to ban porn. I don't want to ban porn. I don't want religious bullshit shoved in my face. So don't get pissed when I think, "HUH I DON"T LIKE ISLAM."

ISLAMOPHOBIC! YOU DON"T FUCKING SAY! Well, I'll be damned if I am fucking scared of religion. It's the reason why I still think I'm going to burn in hell for eternity.. . for nothing....

God dammit, I swear to god, these people just want to circle jerk just like politicians. George Carlin was right. George Carlin was so motherfucking right. We have shit politicians because we, as Americans, are shit. I swear to fucking god, the tribalism is cancer.

Just blows my fucking mind. I just don't get it.

 

[sr71plt]

Hope you spent a long time making up that post, Chris, because I didn't read it. Happy to keep your nonsense confined to writing convoluted boneheaded knuckle dragger posts on a porn discussion board.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Typical of you to be ignoring the recently obvious deep division among the Republicans (both introparty divisions and divisions between Executive and Legislative arms) shown in the health care bill debacle.

No need to read beyond your headline to know you are shoveling crap.

Hope you spent a long time making up that post, Chris, because I didn't read it. Happy to keep your nonsense confined to writing convoluted boneheaded knuckle dragger posts on a porn discussion board.

LOL as always here comes the biggest partisan tool on lit, absolutely incapable of anything but the total demonization of (R) and denial/defense of ANYTHING that isn't pro (D), but mostly the corporate/Wall St. branch of (D) above all others.

 

[Chris_Michael]

LOL as always here comes the biggest partisan tool on lit, absolutely incapable of anything but the total demonization of (R) and denial/defense of ANYTHING that isn't pro (D), but mostly the corporate/Wall St. branch of (D) above all others.

And this is why we don't get things done, right? sr7 is showing 100% irrational discussion regarding the Democratic party so that it can become electable again. He is not thinking in terms of "What can we change to make our party better?" He's thinking "Oh, let me point to the Republicans regardless of anything said, no matter if it's true or not."

Why is this? This is my whole point in a nutshell, and it's demonstrated here perfectly. The idea that a liberal would suggest that he hopes I spent a lot of time writing that post because he's not going to read it... that's exactly why we cannot have a solid constructive, rational change to the Democratic party.

Seriously, the Republicans are becoming more liberal than the Democrats. I could show you examples, but the leftists would just post an example of Republicans doing something bad, too. But that's entirely 100% missing the point.

Let's just assume for a minute that the Republican party is the worst, most vile and disgusting group in the history of America. It doesn't matter. It's not the Democrats job to point and say "LOOK AT HOW BAD THEY ARE." It's the Democrats job to look inward and reflect upon how they got into the situation they are in now.

GUNS are bad. Conservatives are RACIST, SEXIST, XENOPHOBIC, etc. Trump is Hitler Vol. 2.

Okay. Okay. That's fine.

Now that we have acknowledged that they are the worst thing in the history of world history, what can we do to make Democrats electable again?

All that exists is what you can change and what you cannot. The Democratic party cannot change the Republicans. But they can change themselves. But there's the rub. Can they?

Can they?

Can they?

A better question. Do they even want to?

 

[dan_c00000]

Your article is from a year ago. Here's a non-racist version of what crazy third Adam paper says:

And on Sunday, activists from the Toronto chapter of Black Lives Matter brought the city’s parade to a halt for about 30 minutes to urge for the inclusion of more black LGBT members in the festivities.

They literally want MORE pride. That's not a bad thing.

 

[Rightguide]

Actually, it's the Democrats, the left, who are unhinged and divide themselves from everyone else. They are the great dividers. They divide us by race, gender, religion, class, and creed and represent the most destructive force in America. Help is on the way for regular Americans, for as the left creates myths about Russia, Trump is busy dismantling every onerous Obama EO policy he can. Soon his great legacy will look like the day after Earth Day:

http://republicbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/16784_CC6RPwXUMAIZ7Ha.jpg

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Like you got rid of Obamacare lol

Actually, it's the Democrats, the left, who are unhinged and divide themselves from everyone else. They are the great dividers. They divide us by race, gender, religion, class, and creed and represent the most destructive force in America. Help is on the way for regular Americans, for as the left creates myths about Russia, Trump is busy dismantling every onerous Obama EO policy he can. Soon his great legacy will look like the day after Earth Day:

http://republicbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/16784_CC6RPwXUMAIZ7Ha.jpg

 

[Rightguide]

Like you got rid of Obamacare lol

All in due time. Besides, Obamacare is a self-destructive policy in its own right.

 

[Chris_Michael]

Actually, it's the Democrats, the left, who are unhinged and divide themselves from everyone else. They are the great dividers. They divide us by race, gender, religion, class, and creed and represent the most destructive force in America. Help is on the way for regular Americans, for as the left creates myths about Russia, Trump is busy dismantling every onerous Obama EO policy he can. Soon his great legacy will look like the day after Earth Day:

Well, I don't think it's as much of the left as you think. People who, ten years ago, would have never in a million years thought they would side with the Conservatives are. I can't tell you how many times I've heard, "I cannot believe I'm defending Fox News" or "I cannot believe I'm defending Donald Trump."

These far left "regressives" are not representative of all Democrats. But then that's the problem. In 2016, we saw a massive shift with Brexit and Donald Trump. The probability of either happening was considered to be nearly zero. But then, they both happened which shocked the world.

And more importantly, like I said... thd Republicans might actually become the working class' party. That's not necessarily a good thing, but it sure does seem possible.

Also, I'm really really hoping to see that core middle break away from both parties. Because really, I don't like right wing good old boys get their way either. I want balance.

The difficult part is convincing these hard leftists that these aren't sports teams. Don't just settle with one group or another. At the end of the day, if we get personally upset because our politcal party is criticized, something is inherently wrong with how we're handling politics. (And I'm not interested in how the Republican party acts because they are in office.)

This discussion is solely, 100% about the Democrats. There's no reason to discuss Republicans. There is a problem that is obviously dividing the left, and yes, it's identity politics)

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Are you excited about the selling of internet privacy? Just a reminder that was one of those crazy liberal protections YOU voted to take away because BLM bothers you.

Trump claimed he was going to be all about jobs and helping the forgotten man

So tell me how this helps anyone but internet companies. Buehler?

In fact, name one positive thing Trump has done that benefits the "working class."

Well, I don't think it's as much of the left as you think. People who, ten years ago, would have never in a million years thought they would side with the Conservatives are. I can't tell you how many times I've heard, "I cannot believe I'm defending Fox News" or "I cannot believe I'm defending Donald Trump."

These far left "regressives" are not representative of all Democrats. But then that's the problem. In 2016, we saw a massive shift with Brexit and Donald Trump. The probability of either happening was considered to be nearly zero. But then, they both happened which shocked the world.

And more importantly, like I said... thd Republicans might actually become the working class' party. That's not necessarily a good thing, but it sure does seem possible.

Also, I'm really really hoping to see that core middle break away from both parties. Because really, I don't like right wing good old boys get their way either. I want balance.

The difficult part is convincing these hard leftists that these aren't sports teams. Don't just settle with one group or another. At the end of the day, if we get personally upset because our politcal party is criticized, something is inherently wrong with how we're handling politics. (And I'm not interested in how the Republican party acts because they are in office.)

This discussion is solely, 100% about the Democrats. There's no reason to discuss Republicans. There is a problem that is obviously dividing the left, and yes, it's identity politics)

 

[Wrong Element]

(And I'm not interested in how the Republican party acts because they are in office.)

 

[Chris_Michael]

Again, here are two examples of Democrats NOT focusing on themselves but rather what bad, evil, horrible things the Republicans are doing.

No, I don't want my internet privacy to be compromised. So, what can we do to make the Democratic party electable again? Or do you want to yet again bring up a Republican issue? They're in office. They won. Why are we worried about them? Let's focus on US. I would consider myself a liberal despite the fact that you probably don't think so.

So again, let's stop focusing on "Hitler" and his Republican party and focus on our party. Because it's not BLM that I'm worried about. That's a strawman and you know it. I'm worried about the DIVISION of the Democratic party. If you don't see it, then you're mentally retarded and there's nothing I can do for you.

Democrats are divided while Republicans sit in office. Do we want to focus on the Republicans? Or do we want to focus on ourselves? What went wrong? How can we fix it?

Try to pretend that you can do anything but point the finger at the other side. That's called critical thinking. What you're doing is just as stupid as those hicks who want their guns and their women to get them a sammich and a beer.

2020 is going to get here quicker than you think. I would start reflecting on own party's problems right here and right now. Face it. You have to ask the question to yourselves, "How can we become electable again?"

No... no... stop. I don't care about Trump.

...stop talking about Trump....

...no Trump!

...this discussion is not about-

...no, you don't under-

...okay, guess you don't care. Yoko Taro for President 2020. If you aren't going to focus, I will write in Yoko Taro or Miyazaki on the ballet next time. Because you don't want my vote, obviously. Yes, be proud to not have me on your team.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Well first of all, YOU voted for Trump.

So I would say you shouldn't be allowed to vote if you don't give a rat's ass about who YOU put in office.

You voted for him. You own him. YOU should be paying close attention to what he's doing.

Second of all, YOU brought up the Straw Man and used it as an "example" of how supposedly "divided" the Dems are, which is on you.

You want to evade responsibility.

Dems aren't divided. They're more united than ever. You just have a bug up your ass about identity politics and you totally allowed yourself to be suckered in to believing that's what "liberals" are.

What went wrong is idiots like you voting from knee jerk reactions to right wing propaganda.

A bad campaign by Hillary, underestimating Trump and not fighting him well enough.

And the Electoral College.

This whole narrative of Dems elected Trump because of liberalism is crap.

Again, here are two examples of Democrats NOT focusing on themselves but rather what bad, evil, horrible things the Republicans are doing.

No, I don't want my internet privacy to be compromised. So, what can we do to make the Democratic party electable again? Or do you want to yet again bring up a Republican issue? They're in office. They won. Why are we worried about them? Let's focus on US. I would consider myself a liberal despite the fact that you probably don't think so.

So again, let's stop focusing on "Hitler" and his Republican party and focus on our party. Because it's not BLM that I'm worried about. That's a strawman and you know it. I'm worried about the DIVISION of the Democratic party. If you don't see it, then you're mentally retarded and there's nothing I can do for you.

Democrats are divided while Republicans sit in office. Do we want to focus on the Republicans? Or do we want to focus on ourselves? What went wrong? How can we fix it?

Try to pretend that you can do anything but point the finger at the other side. That's called critical thinking. What you're doing is just as stupid as those hicks who want their guns and their women to get them a sammich and a beer.

2020 is going to get here quicker than you think. I would start reflecting on own party's problems right here and right now. Face it. You have to ask the question to yourselves, "How can we become electable again?"

No... no... stop. I don't care about Trump.

...stop talking about Trump....

...no Trump!

...this discussion is not about-

...no, you don't under-

...okay, guess you don't care. Yoko Taro for President 2020. If you aren't going to focus, I will write in Yoko Taro or Miyazaki on the ballet next time. Because you don't want my vote, obviously. Yes, be proud to not have me on your team.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Are you excited about the selling of internet privacy?

YES!!! VERY!!

Trump claimed he was going to be all about jobs and helping the forgotten man

So did Obama and Clinton.

Dems aren't divided. They're more united than ever.

LMFAO!!!! I didn't think you were actually that stupid or in denial.

You just have a bug up your ass about identity politics and you totally allowed yourself to be suckered in to believing that's what "liberals" are.

Liberals are libertarians.

Democrats, socialist and Justice Democrats are all just identity politics dipshits.

Good luck with your "Fuck white people" campaign in 2020 LOL

 

[Chris_Michael]

Carnal Flower, you think liberals can only vote Democrat?

 

[Carnal_Flower]

First of all, "liberals" is a meaningless word. It's nothing but a hate word fabricated by Rush Limbaugh 30 years ago. It only means something to the brain dead who repeat it like automatons every second.

And no, anyone can vote anything.

I'm saying first of all, don't conflate "liberals" with "Democrats" with "people who vote Democrat."

Second of all, don't read stories about BLM and assume that's what "liberals" are. It's meaningless. It's an empty phrase like "Jew" in the mouth of an Anti-Semite. A meaningless hate word.

I'm saying it appears you have issues with the Democratic Party, and that's why you voted for Trump. Which is stupid to begin with. A vote for Trump is a vote FOR Trump. You put him in office. He's yours. His policies are now yours. Whoops, there goes your privacy. There goes Meals on Wheels. There goes your health insurance. Duh . . . I dunno . . . I just didn't like Hillary . . . duh . . drool . . .

And here he is, and all you want to do is keep talking about the liberaldemocrats. That makes no sense.

Anyone who wasn't making knee jerk decisions could weight the candidates and their proposed policies and know exactly what was coming with Trump. But no, you were "upset" about a freakin' parade and "SJWs". You were a perfect target for Russian propaganda.

 

[M. Jordan]

First of all, "liberals" is a meaningless word. It's nothing but a hate word fabricated by Rush Limbaugh 30 years ago. It only means something to the brain dead who repeat it like automatons every second.

And no, anyone can vote anything.

I'm saying first of all, don't conflate "liberals" with "Democrats" with "people who vote Democrat."

Second of all, don't read stories about BLM and assume that's what "liberals" are. It's meaningless. It's an empty phrase like "Jew" in the mouth of an Anti-Semite. A meaningless hate word.

I'm saying it appears you have issues with the Democratic Party, and that's why you voted for Trump. Which is stupid to begin with. A vote for Trump is a vote FOR Trump. You put him in office. He's yours. His policies are now yours. Whoops, there goes your privacy. There goes Meals on Wheels. There goes your health insurance. Duh . . . I dunno . . . I just didn't like Hillary . . . duh . . drool . . .

And here he is, and all you want to do is keep talking about the liberaldemocrats. That makes no sense.

Anyone who wasn't making knee jerk decisions could weight the candidates and their proposed policies and know exactly what was coming with Trump. But no, you were "upset" about a freakin' parade and "SJWs". You were a perfect target for Russian propaganda.

Well said Carnal Flower! By far, most of the people I meet/know are some combo of the middle ground. I really have to look hard to find the hard core right or left in my community. And using that term in that manor, is an instant tip off of stupid.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

I thought Hillary lost because she "ignored the working class"??????

Obama didn't run for the "working class." He ran on "hope" and "change." If you don't think he delivered, fine, but it's not accurate to say he ran as a "populist" like Trump.

So did Obama and Clinton

.

No, that would be you. You've shown again and again you have no idea what's actually going on with either Trump or Democrats.

Democrats are energized and united nowadays.

LMFAO!!!! I didn't think you were actually that stupid or in denial.

Lol. No they're not.

They're quite different. Libertarians want to do away with guv'mint. Liberals LIKE government and want to make it work.

Liberals are libertarians.

No, that's Russian propaganda. Watch the Senate Intel Hearings and educate yourself. (Ha!)

Democrats, socialist and Justice Democrats are all just identity politics dipshits.

Lol. The ones getting fucked right now are the po' whites. By their hero Trump.

Good luck with your "Fuck white people" campaign in 2020 LOL