The misuse of the term Milf

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Its been discussed often here how the word-and category-Taboo has changed over the years, at least in terms of porn and erotica. Taboo's basic meaning is something society would normally frown upon, but now all but exclusively is associated with incest or step incest.

Last night I was discussing my new WIP-a milf anthology-with a friend, and he brought up a good point, why are Milfs in erotica and porn always older women? The term stands for mother I'd like to fuck, there are a lot of young moms out there.

His point made me think of the couple that recently bought the house across the street from us. The wife is a flat out stunning redhead who is 26(I know this because my chatty wife went over there to bring them food the day they moved in and she somehow always ends up with everyone's life story) and a mother of 3 year old twins.

But if I were to post a picture of her somewhere and say look at this hot Milf I would get comments that she's too young.

The correct term for a very attractive and sexually aggressive woman-especially one that likes younger men is cougar. A cougar is always an older woman in at least her upper thirties and upwards.

But yet look up Milf in erotic stories and porn searches and they are always in that late 30's and up range...porn stars like India Summers, Jodie West, Zoe Holloway Kendra Lust etc, they're not younger women.

In another thread discussing the popularity of the mature category it was mentioned that the category itself has become a bit of a misnomer, its not about older mature pairings, but age gap stories and the word milf is in constant referral to 40ish women.

If you want to get eyes on your story here, or get the right target audience for sale, your Milfs have to be older or it does not go over as well so authors perpetuate the misuse because you either keep going with it or the story won't be as successful.

One last point is I have read-and written-stories where the "milf" does not even have kids, but the term is used as a synonym for cougar, and no one calls that out because...back to my point about Taboo, the word's meaning has totally shifted, and even though mom is in the acronym its no longer the focal point, the age is.

Additionally, here's a quick hit on the selling market. Milf is the better term in a title because if you use cougar(even more so if Cougar cub is in title or description) on amazon,...well, some young boy or girl searches cougar expecting animals and gets cougar cub erotica because amazon refuses to have a separate adult section, but when mom or dad get pissed and report the book, its always the authors fault...so selling advice, always use Milf, at least on amazon with its heavy Karen population.

And...this is what I think to talk about at 6:30 in the morning
 
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A stroll to the dark side of the Lit Boards will find threads like these:


https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1543191

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1534449

There is some discussion there of what age groups should or should not be included, at least in the views of the pervs.

I don't know for sure, but maybe the term comes from younger guys ogling women their own Mom's ages?

That's certainly where it comes from, the term was coined by younger guys who have a thing for older women, and often at an age we don't discuss here. Often times a young kid will see his friend's mother(or sister) and it becomes that first crush, obsession, or realizing what they're attracted to.

Even though the term existed well before, a lot of people credit the movie American Pie with its surge in popularity. Personally I never saw it because I've never been a fan of Porky's style(showing my age) moron 'boy humor"
 
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I think twenty-six year old models are now usually called teens. I'm not aware of a category for models or actresses between teen and MILF.

It's all a little strange.
 
I think twenty-six year old models are now usually called teens. I'm not aware of a category for models or actresses between teen and MILF.

It's all a little strange.

True, last time I saw a lost of top porn searches, mom, milf and teen were top three...so if you're a porn star that's early twenties to earl thirties you're either playing roles where you're supposed to be older younger or just SOL
 
On this topic, Cougar/kitten or "moms and daughters" stuff has its place, but I wonder...do young women refer to older women as Milfs?
 
The fact that the term was made popular by application to Jennifer Coolidge's character in American Pie (though it was in use ten years earlier), at a time when it provided a convenient category tag for the then-surging online porn industry, pretty much established its current usage.
 
Well, I can certainly add to this in one respect; not long after my wife gave birth to our now 4 year old daughter I jokingly referred to her as a MILF in a text. My wife was unfamiliar with the term (she is not a native English speaker) so I told her what the acronym meant. She then went online and searched and I got a slap, along with the comment that she isn't old, and how dare I think she was. I'm still apologising for that to this day ;)
 
Porns most popular vids, stories, erotica e-books are older woman based. Its either your mom or another person's mom the MC is having sex with.

Having said that, I'm now seeing the word Mom being used to describe milfs or older women in general. Part of this may be a cheat to get taboo fans to click the site, but part of it is also 'mom' becoming a term to be used like milf and cougar.

There's a site Mom XXX and although there's some step mom stuff scattered about the "mom" is simply an older woman "Raven Haired Mom sucks off lucky young neighbor" and its not incest or PI

So that's another dynamic spinning off of the older woman fetish,
 
Well, I can certainly add to this in one respect; not long after my wife gave birth to our now 4 year old daughter I jokingly referred to her as a MILF in a text. My wife was unfamiliar with the term (she is not a native English speaker) so I told her what the acronym meant. She then went online and searched and I got a slap, along with the comment that she isn't old, and how dare I think she was. I'm still apologising for that to this day ;)

If that's not the most perfect example of my opening post, I don't know what is.

My wife commented to me that it dawned on her she's now at "cougar" status, or Milf is raising my daughter's from my prior marriage as her own. I was smart enough not to say she'd been that age for a few years now (she just turned 44) but did agree that she was.

There's a very attractive young man who jogs in our area in the summer with no shirt, and let me say that I'm in decent shape, but if I looked like this kid I'd be shirtless in mid winter, I'm straight and I say "damn!" when I see him.

But after the milf discussion now when we drive by my wife whispers, "Come to mama, baby, come to mama."
 
"Mature" (as a noun) is another term I've seen used along with Milf, and I have a hard time guessing who that applies to. Older? Younger? <shrugs with hands held up>.
 
Cougar and MILF are not the same thing to me.

Cougar is the predator, MILF is the prey.

Mona Robinson (Kathryn Helmond) --- Cougar

Angela Robinson (Judith Light) -- MILF.
 
Jennifer O'Neill was a helluva lot more appealing than that .... thing.

All subjective. Back when Home Improvement first started in 1991, I was 23 and thought Patricia Richardson was a hot milf in a very every day mom sort of way.

Predating her-for me-was the Mom in Family Ties(Meredith Baxter?)
 
And why do all MILFs have to have huge tits? Most look like their hubby bought them a pair once the kids were out of the house.
 
I suppose I perpetuate the transformation a little, because I feel as if 33 or so is the minimum. It has to do with the minimum age of the other participant. A gap of 8 years just doesn't feel all that kinky. Ten... A little. Twelve... Closer. Fifteen... Now you're getting somewhere.

If it's a stepmom ( or a close friend's stepmom ) you can narrow that down quite a bit by replacing the age-difference taboo with it. Since I don't really enjoy writing cheating stuff, that option is most often off the table for me. The cheating is practically a necessity, because it's interwoven into the stepmom kink. You're always going to lose engagement even going with a separated but still technically married stepmom. Those readers want the husband humiliated to at least some degree.

It doesn't leave me much wiggle room, because I'm not overly fond of writing humiliation or musing a dark backstory either :p It's almost inevitable that I'll have some head canon about why they separated, even if it's nowhere in the story.

It's there in Mom/Son, but you can get away with divorcing/killing off Dad to get him out of the picture because of the additional kink factor of blood relationship. You're always going to get bonus points for saying the son is bigger/harder/has more stamina, though.
 
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I suppose I perpetuate the transformation a little, because I feel as if 33 or so is the minimum. It has to do with the minimum age of the other participant. A gap of 8 years just doesn't feel all that kinky. Ten... A little. Twelve... Closer. Fifteen... Now you're getting somewhere.

If it's a stepmom ( or a close friend's stepmom ) you can narrow that down quite a bit by replacing the age-difference taboo with it. Since I don't really enjoy writing cheating stuff, that option is most often off the table for me. The cheating is practically a necessity, because it's interwoven into the stepmom kink. You're always going to lose engagement even going with a separated but still technically married stepmom. Those readers want the husband humiliated to at least some degree.

It doesn't leave me much wiggle room, because I'm not overly fond of writing humiliation or musing a dark backstory either :p It's almost inevitable that I'll have some head canon about why they separated, even if it's nowhere in the story.

It's there in Mom/Son, but you can get away with divorcing/killing off Dad to get him out of the picture because of the additional kink factor of blood relationship. You're always going to get bonus points for saying the son is bigger/harder/has more stamina, though.

Step Mom does lead to age being less important...plenty of stories and vids where Dad's new 24 year old trophy wife is about the same age as the son.

For me, because of that sugar baby dad has money and is a mid life crisis in action who just wants young and hot dynamic, I don't even see them as cheating as it doesn't have the air of a real marriage.

You mentioned taboo, in the case I mentioned I see little taboo, kid was in his late teens before "mom" came along.

Now give me a scenario where the real mother leaves or passes away and step mom comes in when the son is still very young and raises him as her own, now you have some good taboo going. I'd also start to see that as cheating in that case, unless Dad flew the coop and the kid chose to stay with her

Oh, the options.
 
I'll see your Meridith Baxter-Birney and raise you a Joanna Kerns (Growing Pains).

Good example.

Also I think it was Judith Light in Who's the Boss?

Phylicia Rashad from Cosby show was fine as well.
 
And why do all MILFs have to have huge tits? Most look like their hubby bought them a pair once the kids were out of the house.

I complained about that on a earlier milf thread, and someone pointed out that Freud's "Mother" was nothing but a pair of tits. Tits are important.
 
For me, because of that sugar baby dad has money and is a mid life crisis in action who just wants young and hot dynamic, I don't even see them as cheating as it doesn't have the air of a real marriage.

I can get behind that if she was genuine in the beginning. Maybe the spending and fancy cars overwhelmed her, but now things have settled into a dull and unsatisfying existence. If she was just in it for the money from the get-go, that doesn't appeal to me.

If she really is just a trophy, that sours me. If she's not, then the cheating sours me. If he's understanding of her needs but she's satisfying whatever he needs, then you run into the Neanderthal faction from LW.

There are a few more angles in places where additional categories or keyword navigation open possibilities, ( IOW, no territorial LW trolls ) but there's just not much room here for what I'm going to enjoy writing.
 
I complained about that on a earlier milf thread, and someone pointed out that Freud's "Mother" was nothing but a pair of tits. Tits are important.

I've written older women with smaller breasts, never took any heat.

The only time I prefer the older woman to be busty is when its in one of those coupls with a young girl....the contrast between the mature busty Milf with the slender small breasted younger woman.
 
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Hot, but I was always more of Lily fan. Yvonne De Carlo

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