The Mechanics of...

[Colleen Thomas]

Fucking.

From the man's POV or that of a lady who is used to using a strapon.

I've probably descriobed this two dozen times or more, but it's almost always been from the POV of the girl on the recieving end. I'm working on one now, where my Protag is a first timer with a strap on. I could just bull my way through it, but I thought it would be fun to give a good description of her learning on the go. Problem is, I've never been on other than the bussiness end. So would anyone, male of female, cary to volunteer some information on the mechanics you notice and how you feel your way into "doing it" the right way?

All replies, even thredjacks appreciated

 

[3113]

Stella has a wonderful description of the male receiving end in A Private Party.

 

[CharleyH]

Fucking.

From the man's POV or that of a lady who is used to using a strapon.

I've probably descriobed this two dozen times or more, but it's almost always been from the POV of the girl on the recieving end. I'm working on one now, where my Protag is a first timer with a strap on.

All replies, even thredjacks appreciated

A first timer giver? depending on if she is a dyke or lipstick and whether she had sex with a guy or not? It's nerve wracking to all of us I think, yet it depends on the chick. I remember my first time with a strap on, and all I felt was nervousness most of the time - I don't even recall pleasuring her to give you an idea - I was too concentrated on whether I was acting like a man to pleasure her - if that makes sense?

 

[Colleen Thomas]

A first timer giver? depending on if she is a dyke or lipstick and whether she had sex with a guy or not? It's nerve wracking to all of us I think, yet it depends on the chick. I remember my first time with a strap on, and all I felt was nervousness most of the time - I don't even recall pleasuring her to give you an idea - I was too concentrated on whether I was acting like a man to pleasure her - if that makes sense?

thanks Charlus

My character is happily married to a very god lover. this is her first time on the giving end, but not her first time with a female lover. I would sy she's more butch than lipstic, but definely not diesel.

I just want her experience here to come off as authentic. the story is N/C and I gnerally over stress when I go outside my comfort zone cat.

*HUGS*

 

[neonlyte]

Good job your protag is a female with a strap-on because I suspect most men's first time's barely last more than a few strokes

Control is the key to success and control is the one thing a male is unlikely to have first time. Then there is the whole business of exactly where this thing is supposed to go. Looks easy in theory, but unless you've been down there a taken a good look...

I'm sure there are some very successful first times, I'm betting the majority were fumbling, awkward and embarrassingly brief.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Good job your protag is a female with a strap-on because I suspect most men's first time's barely last more than a few strokes

Control is the key to success and control is the one thing a male is unlikely to have first time. Then there is the whole business of exactly where this thing is supposed to go. Looks easy in theory, but unless you've been down there a taken a good look...

I'm sure there are some very successful first times, I'm betting the majority were fumbling, awkward and embarrassingly brief.

thaks for responding Neon. I watch a decent amount of les visual erotica and it seems to me some girls have it and some girls don't. I kind of suspected it was so instinctual for aman that most had never really thought abou tit from a physica/mechanics stand point

 

[rgraham666]

Can't help you much on this, Colleen. It's been a very long time.

But I can tell you a guy's first time is as neon put it, 'fumbling, awkward and embarrassingly brief'. It certainly was in my case.

Did my best to be a generous lover, but I had not the slightest idea what I was doing.

I still feel bad about it.

 

[CharleyH]

thanks Charlus

My character is happily married to a very god lover. this is her first time on the giving end, but not her first time with a female lover. I would sy she's more butch than lipstic, but definely not diesel.

I just want her experience here to come off as authentic. the story is N/C and I gnerally over stress when I go outside my comfort zone cat.

*HUGS*

Well, you will do what you want, Colly, but I am trying to give you a real lesbian experience and you are reluctant.

Strap on? SHIT - I am not a guy - I want to fuck, but do not know how - nervous, how do I even put on the straps, and should I think of porn movies when I fuck her? How do I fuck her? HARD - SOFT? Thats exactly what I thought when I fucked my first good lover. Reaity? How would you fuck me?

Edit: not meant to sound harsh - just raw and real. As you asked, kinda. LOL

 

[cheerful_deviant]

Neon nailed it, first time is usually awkward, especially for a male. Inexperienced men don't really have a good understanding of the female anatomy dispite Hustler, Club, Penthouse etc. They know what it looks like on the outside but not how all the plumbing is on the inside if that makes any sence. This leads to alot of "Ow! Not like that!" "Not so (fill in the blank)", "Stop moving like that!" from the woman. Once a guy gets a better idea of what a woman likes, what feels good and what doesnt it usually goes better. Of course, some guys never learn.

I suspect that a woman using a strap on for the first time would do better for the simple reason that she knows what it's like in there. She knows what she would like and what she would want.

As far as the mechanics it's pretty straight forward for the guy, especially first time. Slow steady rythem, try not to jab anything, don't pull out to far and pop out causing a loss of the rythem.

Things that I notice as a male. For some reason for me, when I'm ontop the friction of the bed (or whatever) on the tops of my feet can be very distracting. My legs will get sore from the workout and also from holding myself (and sometimes my wife) up. Standing up is awkward, it never seems to work as well as I would hope. She always says it's uncomfortable but I suspect that a strapon might work better because it sit's a little differently.

Hope that helps.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Well, you will do what you want, Colly, but I am trying to give you a real lesbian experience and you are reluctant.

Strap on? SHIT - I am not a guy - I want to fuck, but do not know how - nervous, how do I even put on the straps, and should I think of porn movies when I fuck her? How do I fuck her? HARD - SOFT? Thats exactly what I thought when I fucked my first good lover. Reaity? How would you fuck me?

Edit: not meant to sound harsh - just raw and real. As you asked, kinda. LOL

I'm not reluctant at all. I appreciate your answering. But you said it depended on some things so I tried to give you a clearer idea of those variables.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Neon nailed it, first time is usually awkward, especially for a male. Inexperienced men don't really have a good understanding of the femal anatomy dispite Hustler, Club, Penthouse etc. They know what it looks like on the outside but not how all the plumbing is on the inside if that makes any sence. This leads to alot of "Ow! Not like that!" "Not so (fill in the blank)", "Stop moving like that!" from the woman. Once a guy gets a better idea of what a woman likes, what feels good and what doesnt it usually goes better. Of course, some guys never learn.

I suspect that a woman using a strap on for the first time would do better for the simple reason that she knows what it's like in ther. She knows what she would like and what she would want.

As far as the mechanice of it go it's pretty straight forward for the guy, especially first time. Slow steady rythem, try not to jab anything, don't pull out to far and pop out causing a loss of the rythem.

Things that I notice as a male. For some reason for me, when I'm ontop the friction of the bed (or whatever) on the tops of my feet can be very distracting. My legs will get sore from the workout and also from holding myself (and sometimes my wife) up. Standing up is awkward, it never seems to work as well as I would hope. She always says it's uncomfortable but I suspect that a strapon might work better because it sit's a little differently.

Hope that helps.

thanks Cd

At heart, I'n not really cuaght up in what a man's first time is. I get the idea that it's pretty awkeard. I'd just like the details, which you provided like feet and how different positions call for diffrent things. As I said, I could bull thorugh it, i've ben on the recieving end enough to make some...informed guesses :0 But any help is appreciated because I'd like my character to seem realistic.


thaks to to all those wonderful souls who rsponded pm

 

[angela146]

This may seem like a silly suggestion, or not...

Are you intimate enough with anyone to be able to maybe ask if you could try it with her?

As for what it's like, I've tried it and it takes a hell of a lot more coordination than I have. I ended up having to use my hand to get it in, and even then it was impossible to get my hips moving the right way to make it a smooth motion.

One suggestion would be to use a "J" shaped double-sided one:

http://www.babeland.com/page/TIB/PROD/dildos-double-header/LB350240

That way you have something inside the woman on top that would give her more leverage.

 

[Belegon]

As for what it's like, I've tried it and it takes a hell of a lot more coordination than I have. I ended up having to use my hand to get it in, and even then it was impossible to get my hips moving the right way to make it a smooth motion.

It's far from unusual for a guy to end up needing to use his hand to aim the damn thing first time too...

ok...trying to "extend" my own experiences to help...first off is the contol issue: how far do you cock a hip to make the thing point the direction you want it to? I mean, it's not exactly a way to be aiming something she is familiar with. I would imagine a little bit of frustration "lining things up" would be fairly accurate...at least for some people.

many people are unaware of just how much thrust your hips really can generate...and that could cause issues too. Many male "first time" stories include accidentally moving the recipient a little too far when they thrust...and resulting in a banged head on a headboard, or something of that nature.

Since a woman can't feel the business end like a man can, I can also foresee possible problems with pulling back too far...

finally, it's a whole different motion then may be common for a woman. you will use muscle groups you don't use all the time...calves and hamstrings can end up sore, so can other muscle groups depending on position...and it can be a hell of a workout. In the privacy of your own room, put yourself in the male position of missionary...now start rocking and moving...including that little half push-up bit...there is work involved.

 

[elsol]

*burp*

The scene is from a pretty 'hard' MF Mind Control story... but I'll cut to the sex scene. It is also unfortunately, a very early work thus I used the hammer method to get my point accross. Maybe someday, I will be able to get back to it, but for your purposes it may be helpful (though clearly not with the whole strap-on thing *shrug*)

"Turn around Maria," I said harshly.

Her body obeyed my command.

"Get down on your knees, bent over onto the couch."

She took a step forward and knelt down. She lowered her upper body so that her elbows were resting on the couch. Her legs were too close together. I put my foot between her knees and started pushing on one to spread her wider. I had wondered if a pill subject could take physical cues; Maria spreading her knees wider, opening her body to me answered that one.

I still did not like the angle.

"Cross your arms on the couch. Put your head down on them."

How the fuck I managed the self-control for sane instructions with Maria on her knees bending her upper body on my couch with her beautiful ass in the air, I do not know.

She put her head down. It raised the angle of her ass. I was done with instructions. I went down on my knees between her feet. I knee-walked forward until I was right up on her ass.

The conscious part of me enjoyed the sensation of the underside of my dick riding on the soft skin of Maria's ass. I reached down to grab my dick; with my other hand I reached below the curve of Maria's ass to find her pussy. I put a finger where my dick would have to go for penetration and bowed my back to get the angle right. I rubbed my dick down the crack of her ass until my dick was aligned with my finger.

I looked down.

I pushed a little bit forward so that my dick head was splitting open her pussy lips. Not many sights compare to that first time you see your dick holding open a woman's pussy lips.

I pushed forward.

I got the head of my dick inside before the tightness of her pussy stopped me. I tried to push forward but her body would not give. I pulled back slightly and pumped hard into her. My dick froze at the exact same point. I tried to butt my way deep inside her and could not. I pulled back again, and tried to stroke into her hard. Her body was not giving. It felt raspy as if I was trying to screw very soft sandpaper. With no experience to speak of, dryness had not been a consideration of mine.

I pulled out again and tried the same old, same old. I felt a slight give but again her body stopped me from moving forward.

I knew she was not a virgin having overheard a conversation I should not have, but her body was almost fighting penetration. I could force the issue but a part of me did not want to physically hurt her.

A fine line of distinction, but I was about to become a master at drawing comforting lines of distinction.

I did not know how to proceed. I was hard and wanted to be deep inside her but her body was preventing it. What I had managed felt good though, so I went with it. I pulled out of her so that only the lightest touch kept my dick pointing in the right direction, and pushed back in again. I tried to be gentler. I allowed her body to stop me where it wanted me to stop.

I hit bottom just below my dick head.

The raspy feeling kept me from ejaculating right away. It was not unpleasurable, but it was not the type of stimulation that would take me over the edge. I kept to those short strokes that allowed me inside just below my dickhead for about seven or eight strokes. The raspiness I felt as I penetrated her started to feel like wet sliding.

Maria might not be there, but her body was and it was working with me now. Her pussy had begun to lubricate. I pulled back out and tried to slam forward. I managed to get in another inch before her body refused me again.

The raspiness was back.

I held myself at the new depth.

It felt good.

I pulled back and went back to gentle short strokes. I was not really thinking of anything consciously. My body had taken over. I might not know what to do but my body seemed to have bought a clue somewhere. It took less time for the next depth. I pulled back and into her a few times when I felt her body give me another inch.

Consideration for her went out the window with that extra inch. I pulled back and stroked into her as far as her body would let me. I hit her body's limit but tightened my grip on her hips and pulled back as I drove my hips forward.

Her body relented.

I felt the raspiness again as I forced myself completely inside, but the lubrication her pussy had given the upper part of my dick seemed to be enough. I stroked my hips backwards. I pulled back on her hips as hard as I could while I drove forward with my hips. I got that last depth my body knew was there.

I held her hard against my dick. I could feel my dickhead almost vibrating inside her from the pressure I was exerting pulling her back and pushing my hips forward.

I felt incredible.

Her pussy gripped the entire length of my dick. I could feel each inch of my dick separately, especially because of the difference in lubrication, shallow and in her depth.

I pulled out slowly. I wanted to feel full penetration again. I pulled back until only the tip of my dick was holding her pussy lips open. I pushed my hips forward. Halfway, I felt her body again try to stop me, I added to the pressure and her body gave to my will. I stayed deep inside her. I had learned that her body would lubricate once I let it get used to me.

I started short strokes into her using the same depth of movement that had made her lubricate when her body only allowed my dickhead inside her.

It was too much.

My body had reached the edge, and those short strokes so much like masturbation were on the other side. I felt the orgasm coming. I pulled back as far as I could, and pushed forward again. Her pussy was still unprepared for me, but I was beyond caring. I pulled back hard one more time and drove myself into her as hard as I could. A few hard short strokes in her depth were all I needed after those two long ones.

I came for the first time inside a woman.

It was different.

How an orgasm can be different because your cock is deep in a woman was not something I thought about at that moment. It was just different. More complete, as if it was not just my dick involved in the ejaculation. I felt something inside my ass clench and release. My upper body jerked as my dick shot semen into her several times.

My entire body was involved in that first orgasm inside a woman.

For a moment, I was dizzy. I leaned into her to gain some equilibrium. It only stimulated the head of my dick. I shivered in pleasurable reaction to it. My hands were gripping her flesh tightly trying to pull her back into me, trying to pull her back so that my dick could go through her. I leaned over her, released her hips and put my hands on the couch to hold myself up. I gripped the couch cushion tightly in my hands. The orgasm had passed but the grip her pussy had on my dick was still stimulating me.

I righted myself, unable to take anymore. I pulled my hips back trying to remove my dick from inside her pussy.

It was a completely different feeling.

My semen and her body had worked to completely lubricate her.

It was a different feeling.

There was no hint of raspiness just a smooth wet glide out of her pussy. I had not begun to soften and the feeling was so new and pleasurable that I stroked back into her.

It was a raindrop along tightly woven silk. I pulled back out while looking at our joining.

The sight was mesmerizing.

Maria's beautifully shaped ass was made even better looking by the facts that: she was naked and any ass is better looking if the woman is bending over, my dick was at that very moment pulling back and her pussy lips looked like they were fighting to keep me inside her.

At the apex of the stroke, I hesitated. At sixteen and having my first experience with sexual intercourse, my dick had softened slightly but was still hard enough, and mentally I was horny again.

I continued watching as I pushed back inside her. Her lips reversed direction; warm gentle hostesses.

How to describe the next minutes?

Maria was bent over in front of me. I cannot say how long I watched myself penetrate deep into her, retreat, and move deep into her again. I felt like an addict. There was pleasure in the motion but the first orgasm had desensitized my dick enough that the pleasure in watching my body interact with hers was greater.

The fascination was fighting an uphill battle, and started to lose badly to the feeling of my dick gliding in and out of a woman in long, deep strokes. It was a wonderful sight but warm, wet velvet is a much more wonderful feeling.

The approach to this orgasm was much slower, more controlled than the first one. The strokes were slow and long. I still did not know what I was doing but it felt good to approach orgasm slowly with full, long strokes into Maria.

I felt myself at the edge of the precipice; I pulled back one last time, and forged my way as deep into her as I could. I pulled her hips back as I pushed forward. Deep inside her, I felt the head of my penis begin a slow hum of vibration as I released into her body.

I pulled her back and rolled to the floor with my cock inside her. I breathed into her hair as I slowly came down.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

It's far from unusual for a guy to end up needing to use his hand to aim the damn thing first time too...

ok...trying to "extend" my own experiences to help...first off is the contol issue: how far do you cock a hip to make the thing point the direction you want it to? I mean, it's not exactly a way to be aiming something she is familiar with. I would imagine a little bit of frustration "lining things up" would be fairly accurate...at least for some people.

many people are unaware of just how much thrust your hips really can generate...and that could cause issues too. Many male "first time" stories include accidentally moving the recipient a little too far when they thrust...and resulting in a banged head on a headboard, or something of that nature.

Since a woman can't feel the business end like a man can, I can also foresee possible problems with pulling back too far...

finally, it's a whole different motion then may be common for a woman. you will use muscle groups you don't use all the time...calves and hamstrings can end up sore, so can other muscle groups depending on position...and it can be a hell of a workout. In the privacy of your own room, put yourself in the male position of missionary...now start rocking and moving...including that little half push-up bit...there is work involved.

Thanks bel

So you feel it in your Calves and hammies?

I'm getting the impression the motion is generated a lot more by your legs and butt than your back? Which seems counter intuitive, which is really vool

 

[Belegon]

back muscles get used too...but that is something obvious from watching. she'll be expecting that...

I was serious about the private moment thing...you may feel silly, but it will be enlightening...just put your pillows in position so you remember to keep yourself up in the air and not "crushing" her...

 

[elsol]

Thanks bel

So you feel it in your Calves and hammies?

Actually... hips.

Bel is right.. the only example I can use is a kicking martial arts... it's drilled into student's heads...

"HIPS! HIPS! HIPS!"

Torquing the hips in round kicks and thrusting (no pun intended as it can't possibly be an accident considering the basic functionality) with the hips in a straight kick.

It's all in the hips

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[Belegon]

Actually... hips.

Bel is right.. the only example I can use is a kicking martial arts... it's drilled into student's heads...

"HIPS! HIPS! HIPS!"

Torquing the hips in round kicks and thrusting (no pun intended as it can't possibly be an accident considering the basic functionality) with the hips in a straight kick.

It's all in the hips

Sincerely,
ElSol

again, she'll expect to feel it in the hips...and the hip principle is also where a lot of power comes from in a baseball swing, believe it or not...your hips are WAY powerful, as ElSol notes...

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Thanks a million guys and gals. i'm about done with the scene. Hopefully your good advice will have lead to it being more realistic all around

 

[elsol]

Okay... now that, it's over.

Can I say the funniest thing in girl-girl porn scenes is when you can tell it's the girl's first time with a strap-on?

A look comes into their eyes like "WTF!!! Doesn't this come with an instruction manual!"

The funniest part is when she can't figure out where to put her hands...

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Okay... now that, it's over.

Can I say the funniest thing in girl-girl porn scenes is when you can tell it's the girl's first time with a strap-on?

A look comes into their eyes like "WTF!!! Doesn't this come with an instruction manual!"

The funniest part is when she can't figure out where to put her hands...

Sincerely,
ElSol

LOL,

I saw one long ago I;ll never forget. The "deer in the headlights" look in the girl's eyes has stuck with me for a long time.

 

[gauchecritic]

From watching lots of porn...

Girls can't do it with dicks.

1. It's almost always in the wrong position.

2. Girlie's hips are girlie's hips, they don't work like bloke's

3. Sooner rather than later you'll see the 'taker' doing more and more work as the 'giver' tires.

4. I've never seen what I consider to be one of the sexiest things happen in strapon play as opposed to cock play: the 'taker' reaching between to position the cock.


Come to think of it I don't think I've ever seen a girl on girl strapon scene in a straight missionary position.

There are certain requirements needed by a guy that a girl doesn't think one iota about. The constant threat of physical pain.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Girls can't do it with dicks.

1. It's almost always in the wrong position.

2. Girlie's hips are girlie's hips, they don't work like bloke's

3. Sooner rather than later you'll see the 'taker' doing more and more work as the 'giver' tires.

4. I've never seen what I consider to be one of the sexiest things happen in strapon play as opposed to cock play: the 'taker' reaching between to position the cock.


Come to think of it I don't think I've ever seen a girl on girl strapon scene in a straight missionary position.

There are certain requirements needed by a guy that a girl doesn't think one iota about. The constant threat of physical pain.

I think that you and I have been watching different pornos.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Girls can't do it with dicks.

1. It's almost always in the wrong position.

2. Girlie's hips are girlie's hips, they don't work like bloke's

3. Sooner rather than later you'll see the 'taker' doing more and more work as the 'giver' tires.

4. I've never seen what I consider to be one of the sexiest things happen in strapon play as opposed to cock play: the 'taker' reaching between to position the cock.


Come to think of it I don't think I've ever seen a girl on girl strapon scene in a straight missionary position.

There are certain requirements needed by a guy that a girl doesn't think one iota about. The constant threat of physical pain.

Some of the girlfreinds films have missionary position sex scenes. They camera angles aren't as important, and they don't adopt redicoulous poses to give the smaera god angle. Some of the girls in those seem every bit as comforatble fucking someone as guys do.

I think a lot of the "failures" we see in visual porn are due more to the demands fo the director and producer, in terms of close ups, oddd angle and "novelty" value for the film.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Elsol, and Gauche, and Bel, too- are so damn right!
It's the hips and the legs, more than anything, and the burn can become excrutiating if you're not quite in shape- like I'm not right now! Missionary is really really hard to keep on doing- there are times when I wonder if I can keep it up at all. Plenty of times, I've rolled us over so she can do more of the work... Doggy style, or standing up are both easier for my legs, too.

(It can be the same for the arm, when you're fisting, if your girl is a piggy. That was a shocker- I'd never known anyone could take more than the most delicate movements with all of a hand inside of her. So embarrassing! "Hold on, let me lube up my left hand now...")