The limits of erotic horror

themightyxloph

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Hi, guys,
Once again I've had a story rejected by Lit. In the past this has happened once because I skated a little too closely to the "no under 18's" rule but that was easily fixed. This time it's the plot that seems to be the problem.

The story in question comes from a different part of my mind, I suppose. It' s a dark, Lovecraft-ian thing in Victorian style, involving a group of intrepid explorers who are forced to submit to non-consensual but intensely pleasurable sex with (appropriately seductive) priestesses as a part of a ritual to awaken an ancient, slumbering evil. In the process our heroes perish (in fact they are turned into stone) save for the inevitable one who lives to tell the tale.

Thing is, Lit apparently feels that this is too much:

While we do accept submissions with graphic violence, we don't accept "snuff" - i.e. death & extreme torture with the aim of sexual titillation. We generally do not accept submissions of nonconsensual sex in which the "victim" gets absolutely no sort of thrill or enjoyment from the acts, or is seriously and /or permanently physically harmed/abused.

While I have no choice but to respect this, I do find it frustrating because, in my mind, this isn't any worse than some of the other stuff I've seen here. I remember (but can't find right now) a story in the SF&F or Non-consent category in which a female prisoner was forcibly sterilized with electricity applied to her ovaries, and there's more than one Succubus-themed one in the Erotic Horror section where one or more of the protagonists are turned into dessicated corpses.

In short, I can't help but feel that this is all very much subjective and arbitrary, and I wonder where, if anywhere at all, the line is being drawn and on which grounds.

Of course, Lit is a private site and whatever the operators decide is what goes, and I accept that. But at the same time I've spent a lot of time on this thing and I'm majorly bummed out by having it rejected for plot reasons that can't be fixed without rewriting it into essentially a completely different story.

What are your thoughts on this? Experiences? Suggestions?

I don't mind posting it here for your review, if that would help. (Or perhaps the Editors' forum would be the place to do that.) If so, should I simply paste it in here or are there other ways to post entire stories in this forum?

All response would be appreciated!
 
Re-submit, with a note to Laurel that nobody dies to provide sexual pleasure for another. That's 'snuff'. Non-sexual death is just homicide.
 
Re-submit, with a note to Laurel that nobody dies to provide sexual pleasure for another. That's 'snuff'. Non-sexual death is just homicide.

I was under the impression that Laurel's decisions are final and not up for debate (which, seeing as Lit is her website, I can understand) but I'll give it a go.
 
I was under the impression that Laurel's decisions are final and not up for debate (which, seeing as Lit is her website, I can understand) but I'll give it a go.
Laurel scans hundreds of bleary submissions daily and she doesn't always get everything right. PM her; she may respond with her issues with your piece. I tried five times with one story before she approved it. Others, initially rejected, were passed after I included a note clarifying that I hadn't broken rules.
 
I don't mind posting it here for your review, if that would help. (Or perhaps the Editors' forum would be the place to do that.) If so, should I simply paste it in here or are there other ways to post entire stories in this forum?
No, you cannot do that. Lit policy is three paragraphs of a story in a forum, no more.

You need to address the reasons for rejection, by either tweaking the text or removing the offending sections, and resubmitting. You have to convince Laurel it's within guidelines, not us.
 
No, you cannot do that. Lit policy is three paragraphs of a story in a forum, no more.
Got it. So what is the approved method of submitting a story for peer review?

You need to address the reasons for rejection, by either tweaking the text or removing the offending sections, and resubmitting. You have to convince Laurel it's within guidelines, not us.
I get that. :) But I can use some advise on how to go about that, which would start with the story itself, right?
 
I don't write snuff stories byt do write lotsa violent stories. In LAUREL-WORLD snuff includes any Democrat victim. Make all victims white, Christian, and straight. I'm serious.
 
I don't write snuff stories byt do write lotsa violent stories. In LAUREL-WORLD snuff includes any Democrat victim. Make all victims white, Christian, and straight. I'm serious.

I didn't think mine was a snuff story, either. And no Democrats were hurt in the making of it. (I might want to look at making some Republicans come to a sticky end some day, though... Maybe have them crushed by an elephant?)
 
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