The Irate Consumers Thread

[shereads]

Shopping for a new mattress is like volunteering to be robbed.

Forget that the profit margin is so high, you're considered a clueless dupe if you even consider a mattress that's not on sale. What's really annoying is that the manufacturers have conspired with mattress retail outlets to make comparison shopping impossible. The Sealy Rest-O-Rama Super Pillowtop Euro Plush you priced at one store doesn't exist anywhere else. It's been given a new model number, a slightly different cover fabric and renamed the Sealy Rest-O-Luxe Pillow Super Plushness Deluxe.

Just when you think you've armed yourself with the facts (demand a spec sheet so you can compare the coil count per size) you see a Consumer Reports article stating that coil count isn't a reliable way to guage the quality of a mattress unless you also know the guage of the springs and how they're built; a high count of the wrong kind of spring can make an expensive mattress less comfortable than a slightly cheaper one.

QUESTION: Does anyone know whether it's really necessary to replace the box spring? I haven't seen that question addressed at any website that doesn't have an interest in selling box springs. Naturally, they all say that an old box spring will cause a new mattress to sag.

QUESTION #2: Why the #^%$@! are refrigerators not all the same height? Mine has to be replaced and I can't find a new one anywhere that isn't slightly too tall to fit under the built-in cabinet.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

. . . QUESTION #2: Why the #^%$@! are refrigerators not all the same height? Mine has to be replaced and I can't find a new one anywhere that isn't slightly too tall to fit under the built-in cabinet. . .

There seems to be no correlation between the average human and the permissable height of refrigerators.

With the one in my latest apartment, I must -- in effect -- practise layups to put anything into the freezer.

 

[Guest]

Shopping for a new mattress is like volunteering to be robbed.

Forget that the profit margin is so high, you're considered a clueless dupe if you even consider a mattress that's not on sale. What's really annoying is that the manufacturers have conspired with mattress retail outlets to make comparison shopping impossible. The Sealy Rest-O-Rama Super Pillowtop Euro Plush you priced at one store doesn't exist anywhere else. It's been given a new model number, a slightly different cover fabric and renamed the Sealy Rest-O-Luxe Pillow Super Plushness Deluxe.

Just when you think you've armed yourself with the facts (demand a spec sheet so you can compare the coil count per size) you see a Consumer Reports article stating that coil count isn't a reliable way to guage the quality of a mattress unless you also know the guage of the springs and how they're built; a high count of the wrong kind of spring can make an expensive mattress less comfortable than a slightly cheaper one.

QUESTION: Does anyone know whether it's really necessary to replace the box spring? I haven't seen that question addressed at any website that doesn't have an interest in selling box springs. Naturally, they all say that an old box spring will cause a new mattress to sag.

QUESTION #2: Why the #^%$@! are refrigerators not all the same height? Mine has to be replaced and I can't find a new one anywhere that isn't slightly too tall to fit under the built-in cabinet.

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*Lighting pipe, and taking puffs...*

First, off, when buying a new mattress—and it must be done with your SO or fuckbuddy proxy—you must demand from the store to first recline on the mattress to try it out, and then have sexual relations in all possible positions (if you swing, be sure to invite your orgy friends along, too). Several visits to the store may be required. You may be surprised to learn, as an unadvertised bonus, that the store may offer to tape a video for free of you and your SO/fuckbuddy/orgy partners in action, as an aid during your evaluation to insure you make the "right" choice. (Always watch for these and other store incentives to help take the bite out of this often expensive purchase.)

As for your question relating to box springs, it's entirely up to you to replace them or not, a must, however, if they've become damaged from the extreme forces from repetitive and deep penetrating thrusts that often sends shock waves through the mattress right through the box springs, to the frame, cracking floor wood and headboard, and … ahem.

Finally, refrigerators are not all the same height because of the metric system. Yes, that's it. Blame it on the metric system (bastards).

 

[R. Richard]

I used to worry about matresses. Then one day I tried a water bed. I will never go back.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

. . . one day I tried a water bed. . .

Did you use SPRING water?

 

[Dar~]

QUESTION: Does anyone know whether it's really necessary to replace the box spring? I haven't seen that question addressed at any website that doesn't have an interest in selling box springs. Naturally, they all say that an old box spring will cause a new mattress to sag.

I bought a new mattress, and not a new box spring, but it did sag. However, the box springs were really really old. The way to tell if it will cause sagging, is too look at your springs from the foot of the bed and see if it slopes in tehe center. if it does, get new box springs

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Shopping for a new mattress is like volunteering to be robbed.

Forget that the profit margin is so high, you're considered a clueless dupe if you even consider a mattress that's not on sale. What's really annoying is that the manufacturers have conspired with mattress retail outlets to make comparison shopping impossible. The Sealy Rest-O-Rama Super Pillowtop Euro Plush you priced at one store doesn't exist anywhere else. It's been given a new model number, a slightly different cover fabric and renamed the Sealy Rest-O-Luxe Pillow Super Plushness Deluxe.

Just when you think you've armed yourself with the facts (demand a spec sheet so you can compare the coil count per size) you see a Consumer Reports article stating that coil count isn't a reliable way to guage the quality of a mattress unless you also know the guage of the springs and how they're built; a high count of the wrong kind of spring can make an expensive mattress less comfortable than a slightly cheaper one.

QUESTION: Does anyone know whether it's really necessary to replace the box spring? I haven't seen that question addressed at any website that doesn't have an interest in selling box springs. Naturally, they all say that an old box spring will cause a new mattress to sag.

QUESTION #2: Why the #^%$@! are refrigerators not all the same height? Mine has to be replaced and I can't find a new one anywhere that isn't slightly too tall to fit under the built-in cabinet.

Unbelieveably, I have the answer to a Sher question

Here is the deal on matresses. Forget coild count, forget springs, forget all that stuff. the only thing thatmatters is how it feels to you. In general, Sealy will provide a firmer bed. Simmons will provide a softer surface.

They are both well constructed matresses. Both will last many years. The simmons tends to give out first, allowing you to "wallow" a place in it more easily. Simmons is very good about replacing thier matresses if you have a problem. Sealy is a little less easy to deal with when you complain. Mostly because complaints about Sealy matresses are cases of buyer regret.

I have a simmons pillow top. It's been with me for years, since I worked for a furniture store. I like a soft surface, one I can sink into. It's also easier to firm up a mat than it is to soften one. ( A good sheet of plywood does wonders. )

Forget changeing the box unless you have a problem with the fabrics not matching. Replace the box only when it hbreaks. there isn't enough difference in the boxes, from year to year to warrant changeing unless you break your current one.

I can't say anything about other brands, I've only attended the Sealy and Simmons classes. basically, you learn there just isn't that much diffrence in them besides the firmer and softer sleeping surface.

*HUGS*

 

[shereads]

I used to worry about matresses. Then one day I tried a water bed. I will never go back.

After what Manx said about box springs, I'd be afraid of drowning.

I tried to make a cheap mattress comfortable with one of those visco-elastic foam mattress covers that hold such a nice handprint. ("Approved by NASA for making temporary astronaut handprints in zero gravity!") I hate it. It holds heat and makes the room feel uncomfortably warm.

I want an ordinary comfortable mattress that will last for a while. Finding one shouldn't be this difficult.

And I shouldn't have to lower the floor or tear out a cabinet to replace an ordinary refrigerator.

Also, can openers should be better now than they were twenty years ago. And shippers who use more packaging materials than can be removed in under twenty minutes should go to jail.

 

[shereads]

Unbelieveably, I have the answer to a Sher question

Here is the deal on matresses. Forget coild count, forget springs, forget all that stuff. the only thing thatmatters is how it feels to you. In general, Sealy will provide a firmer bed. Simmons will provide a softer surface.

They are both well constructed matresses. Both will last many years. The simmons tends to give out first, allowing you to "wallow" a place in it more easily. Simmons is very good about replacing thier matresses if you have a problem. Sealy is a little less easy to deal with when you complain. Mostly because complaints about Sealy matresses are cases of buyer regret.

I have a simmons pillow top. It's been with me for years, since I worked for a furniture store. I like a soft surface, one I can sink into. It's also easier to firm up a mat than it is to soften one. ( A good sheet of plywood does wonders. )

Forget changeing the box unless you have a problem with the fabrics not matching. Replace the box only when it hbreaks. there isn't enough difference in the boxes, from year to year to warrant changeing unless you break your current one.

I can't say anything about other brands, I've only attended the Sealy and Simmons classes. basically, you learn there just isn't that much diffrence in them besides the firmer and softer sleeping surface.

*HUGS*

You are my new hero.

 

[shereads]

I bought a new mattress, and not a new box spring, but it did sag. However, the box springs were really really old. The way to tell if it will cause sagging, is too look at your springs from the foot of the bed and see if it slopes in tehe center. if it does, get new box springs

Mine is vintage.

 

[Guest]

and here in lies yet another conspiracy theory...
however... not with chapstick.
its the south and the cotton plantations...feel free to blame ely whitney, if you like. purposefully, they plant less cotton to drive the prices up and control the supply and demand mattress economy.
no, you don't have to replace that boxspring but buying the mattress alone will cost you ...
its like specials in the grocery store:
buy two get one free, buy one and pay full price....
youve my total empathy

 

[shereads]

and here in lies yet another conspiracy theory...
however... not with chapstick.
its the south and the cotton plantations...feel free to blame ely whitney, if you like. purposefully, they plant less cotton to drive the prices up and control the supply and demand mattress economy.
no, you don't have to replace that boxspring but buying the mattress alone will cost you ...
its like specials in the grocery store:
buy two get one free, buy one and pay full price....
youve my total empathy

A woman invented the cotton gin. Eli Whitney took credit because women weren't supposed to think that way. What Eli actually did was come up with a way to make every customer of the cotton gin pay a different price.

 

[Subo97]

Eli Whitney's wife, Sarah Houston Whitney (take your cotton pickin' hands off me, Eli, this is the bible belt, for God's sake), invented the cotton gin in a noble attempt to make seedless Q-tips. No one knew the impact this would make on American society and history. It is unproven that she had an affair with both Johnson and Johnson, but her private diary does show a repeated reference to some kind of Johnson.

 

[shereads]

Eli Whitney's wife, Sarah Houston Whitney (take your cotton pickin' hands off me, Eli, this is the bible belt, for God's sake), invented the cotton gin in a noble attempt to make seedless Q-tips. No one knew the impact this would make on American society and history. It is unproven that she had an affair with both Johnson and Johnson, but her private diary does show a repeated reference to some kind of Johnson.

Thank God for Q-tips without seeds. Those, and air conditioning, are two inventions for which no price is too high.

 

[Guest]

A woman invented the cotton gin. Eli Whitney took credit because women weren't supposed to think that way. What Eli actually did was come up with a way to make every customer of the cotton gin pay a different price.

ohmigod...i feel so out of the loop now.

 

[R. Richard]

Did you use SPRING water?

I didn't use SPRING water nor did I use SPRINGY water.

I do heat the water for winter which allows me to keep the heat down in the bedroom and still be very comfortable. In the spring I reduce the heat. In the summer I keep the matress a little on the cool side which means I do not have to air condition the bedroom as much. In the fall I begin to crank the heat up again.

The heater uses very little electricity and I save a bundle on heating and cooling costs.

 

[shereads]

Irate About Packaging

I've actually thrown away food because I couldn't open the package. A jar of salsa comes to mind.

I've stabbed myself while using a knife to intimidate a plastic package.

I'm not alone. Just read about a British study in which 60,000 emergency hospital visits were due to "packaging related injuries." There's no comparable U.S. study, probably because our packaging manufacturers have had the foresight to purchase some congressmen and a hunting lodge.

Fight back! Invent the All-Purpose Non-Lethal Package Opener, one of you subversives out there. It's them or us.

 

[OhMissScarlett]

Grrrr. I know exactly what you mean. It should not take 20 minutes for me to get my son's Rescue Heroes playset out of the box. It also should not be a job that requires a screwdriver and wire cutters.

Ever try to open a new remote control without the jaws of life or at least scissors? Impossible! I don't know about you guys, but I've had far too much expensive dental work to try and gnaw through something like that.

 

[cantdog]

Those fuckin bubble packs use plastic which does not tear, but must be cut, every centimeter of the way. They are, I think, intended to unlatch the same way they were latched on in the first place, but they seldom do that.

Toys with small pieces by the hundred sewn and stapled to card within bubble packs are perhaps the worst. I use an exacto or a sharp little knife like the Cricket.
http://www.thebladeshop.com/ProductImages/spyderco/tn_SPYC29P.jpg
The Cricket has a locking blade, so it doesn't hinge down and cut you, and it folds to a lightweight, rounded form, thin and small. No catching on clothes, no weight to speak of, and a reliable little blade at need. It clips onto things like a pen, only better than most pens.

edited to add: My daughter clips it to her bra strap when in sundresses or some such outfit with no pockets.

 

[lucky-E-leven]

I spent an entire hour today opening two new BRATZ dolls and a little Barbie/Kelly doll/playset thingie. They're irritating and time consuming, BUT nothing is as dangerous as electronics in heavy grade plastic. Remote controls, power supplies, headphones, etc...

If you don't cut yourself with the utensil you're using to break into the packaging, you'll definitely injure yourself on the edges of the packaging before it's all said and done.



p.s. Sher, that AV is deeeeelicious! (Almost as yummy as the Valentine's Day bra AV.)

 

[lucky-E-leven]

http://www.thebladeshop.com/ProductImages/spyderco/tn_SPYC29P.jpg
The Cricket has a locking blade, so it doesn't hinge down and cut you, and it folds to a lightweight, rounded form, thin and small.

Oooooh! I want one!

 

[OhMissScarlett]

I spent an entire hour today opening two new BRATZ dolls and a little Barbie/Kelly doll/playset thingie.

Now, Lucky, you know you only want Bratz so you can make them make out with Barbie.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

I've just found this thread. I think I need to drink more.

 

[lucky-E-leven]

Now, Lucky, you know you only want Bratz so you can make them make out with Barbie.

Well, how else was I supposed to appease Barbie's foot fetish?

Bratz creators decided shoes were too difficult to put on and take off, so they just made the feet interchanchable...shoes intact.

Creepy shit, I tell ya, but the girls are happy and I got to watch enough Wimbledon to know what's happening in the finals. SCORE!


~lucky

 

[amicus]

Yes, time for a drink fer sure...