The gloryhole cliché.....

[ShandyLeer]

......why, when featured in porn, do these always seem to get portrayed as downmarket ? It's all adult theatre/grafitti'd walls blah blah.......which is fine, but monotonous imo.

I can't imagine this appealing to many, yet the concept - of an anonymous stranger who is identifiable only by their cock - ought to be popular you'd think, particularly if done in a less low rent environment ?

What's the thinking here........?

 

[BuckyDuckman]

......why, when featured in porn, do these always seem to get portrayed as downmarket ? It's all adult theatre/grafitti'd walls blah blah.......which is fine, but monotonous imo.

I can't imagine this appealing to many, yet the concept - of an anonymous stranger who is identifiable only by their cock - ought to be popular you'd think, particularly if done in a less low rent environment ?

What's the thinking here........?

Clearly you've never visited a real gloryhole. There are vids out there filmed that are filmed inside an actual booth in an adult bookstore with a gloryhole. In real life? These places are seldom swank, LOL.

 

[SisterJezabel]

I dunno- I caught an Eastern European female glory hole when I rolled the dice on PornMD during the week...

 

[JJA122]

I came across a Czech Amateurs clip where it looked like a tasteful wood panelled cellar. Each hole had a photo of the woman's face on a sheet of paper, not sure why. Still not my thing.
If anyone is wondering about the clip, search Alex Black gloryhole

 

[Carnevil9]

Interesting observation. From a Story Idea perspective, there is no reason a gloryhole has to be downmarket. Why can't we have a story where someone sets up a highbrow upscale gloryhole establishment? Cover charges, dress codes, maybe even requiring references to gain admission. Possibly even medical tests required. Could be an interesting story setting.

 

[AlinaX]

Sigh. It has been done... but more please!

 

[sirhugs]

Interesting observation. From a Story Idea perspective, there is no reason a gloryhole has to be downmarket. Why can't we have a story where someone sets up a highbrow upscale gloryhole establishment? Cover charges, dress codes, maybe even requiring references to gain admission. Possibly even medical tests required. Could be an interesting story setting.

an english gentleman's club?

 

[AlinaX]

an english gentleman's club?

... where she was bound in an iron pig whose tail lifted to reveal her own. As she was penetrated fore and aft by hot, noble shafts, she wondered if she would soon learn what it was to be stuffed, seasoned and roasted over flame.

 

[bettiezyx]

Had the thought once for a story where it was a weight loss center that PAID women & men to lose weight there. But there are rules...anyways, the too-good-to-be-true part was that on one side it was weight-loss, on the other it was selling blow jobs. See, the people that enrolled could only eat ejaculate, meaning they had to do fellatio for food. I wanted to make it funny but gave up. You have to pretty much make every character an asshole.

 

[horrorotic]

First, many are that sleazy looking
Second, part of the turn on of the GH fetish is....the sleaze.

After all, you're talking about a fetish where the reality is...you could catch a disease anytime you're on either side of that hole. In that respect, anyone fine with risking that, is not going to be bothered by graffitist and grungy settings

 

[sirhugs]

... where she was bound in an iron pig whose tail lifted to reveal her own. As she was penetrated fore and aft by hot, noble shafts, she wondered if she would soon learn what it was to be stuffed, seasoned and roasted over flame.

that would not be a glory hole, I don't think...

 

[AlinaX]

that would not be a glory hole, I don't think...

Why not? Stuck in a confined space, anonymity both ways, mouth / pussy / ass offered up indiscriminately... if the pig were a square pig à la Space Truckers, would that make a difference?

 

[ShandyLeer]

First, many are that sleazy looking
Second, part of the turn on of the GH fetish is....the sleaze.

After all, you're talking about a fetish where the reality is...you could catch a disease anytime you're on either side of that hole. In that respect, anyone fine with risking that, is not going to be bothered by graffitist and grungy settings

Well yes, I get all that. But that interpretation pre-supposes that the sleaze/grime has to be attached to the anonymity.

I'm just suggesting you could alter the former and retain the latter - for a different take on it. There's a handful of examples, as other posters have said. One or two in particular involve some hot looking cougars going at several anonymous recipients of their attention.

For me it takes an unappealing setting to an interesting one - I was curious to see if others agreed, particularly females or those with partner watching fantasies.

 

[sirhugs]

Why not? Stuck in a confined space, anonymity both ways, mouth / pussy / ass offered up indiscriminately... if the pig were a square pig à la Space Truckers, would that make a difference?

Space Truckers?

 

[BuckyDuckman]

There is such a thing as a "private" gloryhole. I've seen ads for them, too. (Backpage, Craigslist back in the day, the right kind of message boards, etc). In most instances, it's a guy on the other side, too. Doing a search for "private gloryhole" brings up plenty of videos and pictures from all the usual sources.

Additionally, I've been to swinger events where an ad-hoc gloryhole was created in a variety of ways, from a large cardboard box with a chair inside of it for the sucker while the suckee would stand outside the box to a hole in a curtain.

I happen to have at leat three gloryhole stories posted. Most would probably fit what you're called a cliche, but what I would call, "a fair representation of real life."

Of course, as a writer, you're welcome to create any scenario you'd like. Whether the readers will believe it or not is up to your skill, I suppose.

 

[jaF0]

On another forum that I will not disclose here, a recent survey among members into the open marriage lifestyle revealed that most were fairly well off. Professional type careers, above average income, near luxury homes, and so on.

It is not unreasonable to accept that some of the events they attend would have a place like this set up in less than sleazy surroundings.

 

[AlinaX]

Space Truckers?

It's a weird film with a good cast and some memorable moments. At one point, the cyborg captain (Charles Dance) struggles to start the motor that drives his mechanical cock's vibrations.

Square pigs: "cubist porcine creatures"
One bizarre effect created by Vulich was the genetically engineered, box-like, stackable swine that John Canyon transports for UniPork. “That was always Stuart’s joke,” he said. “Wouldn’t it be funny if they were like pig boxes, so you could stack and maximize their storage space, which I thought was a brilliant idea.
https://0themastercylinder0.com/2020/06/09/space-truckers-1996-retrospective/

 

[horrorotic]

On another forum that I will not disclose here, a recent survey among members into the open marriage lifestyle revealed that most were fairly well off. Professional type careers, above average income, near luxury homes, and so on.

It is not unreasonable to accept that some of the events they attend would have a place like this set up in less than sleazy surroundings.

Well, if they responded to survey on the internet then I am sure they answered honestly. And also sure many of the people responding in the manner you say are middle class working people saying they have money because its important how you're perceived on the internet and on sex forums.

I can tell you from experience that most open couples, swingers I have encountered are middle class, perhaps a little upper middle class depending on what you consider MC income levels.

I'm not saying people with money aren't kinky and don't have their fetishes and little secrets, but you're buying into every asshole in a suit is Christian Grey and all successful women are closet subs or freaks.

In other words, don't believe everything posted on the interwebz, most of the whores there are that of the attention variety

 

[horrorotic]

There is such a thing as a "private" gloryhole. I've seen ads for them, too. (Backpage, Craigslist back in the day, the right kind of message boards, etc). In most instances, it's a guy on the other side, too. Doing a search for "private gloryhole" brings up plenty of videos and pictures from all the usual sources.

Additionally, I've been to swinger events where an ad-hoc gloryhole was created in a variety of ways, from a large cardboard box with a chair inside of it for the sucker while the suckee would stand outside the box to a hole in a curtain.

I happen to have at leat three gloryhole stories posted. Most would probably fit what you're called a cliche, but what I would call, "a fair representation of real life."

Of course, as a writer, you're welcome to create any scenario you'd like. Whether the readers will believe it or not is up to your skill, I suppose.

All this seems a pretty honest representation of things, at least in my experiences back before I retired and became boring and monogamous.

 

[Melsid69]

Well, if they responded to survey on the internet then I am sure they answered honestly. And also sure many of the people responding in the manner you say are middle class working people saying they have money because its important how you're perceived on the internet and on sex forums.

I can tell you from experience that most open couples, swingers I have encountered are middle class, perhaps a little upper middle class depending on what you consider MC income levels.

I'm not saying people with money aren't kinky and don't have their fetishes and little secrets, but you're buying into every asshole in a suit is Christian Grey and all successful women are closet subs or freaks.

In other words, don't believe everything posted on the interwebz, most of the whores there are that of the attention variety

Wow! Strong opinion there!
I would say the kink and freakness is likely well and evenly distributed across ALL socioeconomic statuses! If I had to guess, the upper classes just have to hide it more because of likely higher public exposure and potential effects on careers and such.

 

[ShandyLeer]

On another forum that I will not disclose here, a recent survey among members into the open marriage lifestyle revealed that most were fairly well off. Professional type careers, above average income, near luxury homes, and so on.

It is not unreasonable to accept that some of the events they attend would have a place like this set up in less than sleazy surroundings.

Exactly.

A boudoir environment, velvet drapes and chaise longues etc, would make a fine environment for a (clothed/lingerie'd ?) woman to be offered an anonymous "toy" to play with, presented through the drapes perhaps ? Possibly she's being observed.

Taking it in her hands or mouth is one thing. Would she back on to it when it was fully erect I wonder ?

 

[Magineer]

Exactly.

A boudoir environment, velvet drapes and chaise longues etc, would make a fine environment for a (clothed/lingerie'd ?) woman to be offered an anonymous "toy" to play with, presented through the drapes perhaps ?

Puts me in mind of a thread I once found and then lost again. Don't know if it was on SI or somewhere else. Been trying to find it for months.

Something about a chain of upmarket centres being set up as a commercial venture where complete strangers could get together discreetly for sex and then go their own way... not brothels but something with a lot more class.

 

[davion2308]

The taboo

most of these are shown as dirty, beat-up, side-of-free ABS places because there's a taboo of how dirty it is to suck random cocks over and over. It's just adding or highlighting an already taboo subject and amplifying how nasty it is.

There are clubs that are high-end sex palaces or for the tasteful swinger couple that offer gloryholes too. I'm sure a story about a fancy couple going to a nice place where everyone is in tuxedoes or suits and beautiful evening dresses and ballgowns would be successful. She has to take her heels off to keep her balance and she serves men through a well-constructed gloryhole.

 

[centrum1000]

......why, when featured in porn, do these always seem to get portrayed as downmarket ? It's all adult theatre/grafitti'd walls blah blah.......which is fine, but monotonous imo.

I can't imagine this appealing to many, yet the concept - of an anonymous stranger who is identifiable only by their cock - ought to be popular you'd think, particularly if done in a less low rent environment ?

What's the thinking here........?

There are a lot of ways to make a gloryhole that isn’t really seedy.

1) Frat party- you can make it a normal story about a girl discovering her own sexuality in a closet while sucking off the whole fraternity. Or it could be a mom who is visiting college and end up in the booth, does she suck her son? Does he catch her? Or it could be a guy who is inside the booth- maybe he has always been curious, maybe he is tricked into getting inside as revenge, or maybe he is put up to it by a rival sorority.

2) costume party- parents are swingers but son doesn’t know. He comes home early on Halloween and his parents are still having a party. He is encouraged to take a turn and slip his cock through the hole.

3) high end boutique- women have the choice of trying on outfits in a private dressing room or in one with a one way mirror. Men can watch them show off their outfits and let them know how they look - not everyone goes shopping with a friend to help them know what looks good, and some women enjoy the thrill of being seen. The women have a curtain they can close while they dress and undress and then can show off whatever they want. Maybe there is something at the top that obscures the woman’s face so she is anonymous. All the woman can see is herself in the mirror. Do all of the special rooms have a hidden hole cut in the wall? Or just some of them? Can the men watch as the women suck off someone? Do the men purchase an outfit they like for the woman as payment? Maybe a son ends up watching his mother....

 

[centrum1000]

There are a lot of ways to make a gloryhole that isn’t really seedy.

1) Frat party- you can make it a normal story about a girl discovering her own sexuality in a closet while sucking off the whole fraternity. Or it could be a mom who is visiting college and end up in the booth, does she suck her son? Does he catch her? Or it could be a guy who is inside the booth- maybe he has always been curious, maybe he is tricked into getting inside as revenge, or maybe he is put up to it by a rival sorority.

2) costume party- parents are swingers but son doesn’t know. He comes home early on Halloween and his parents are still having a party. He is encouraged to take a turn and slip his cock through the hole.

3) high end boutique- women have the choice of trying on outfits in a private dressing room or in one with a one way mirror. Men can watch them show off their outfits and let them know how they look - not everyone goes shopping with a friend to help them know what looks good, and some women enjoy the thrill of being seen. The women have a curtain they can close while they dress and undress and then can show off whatever they want. Maybe there is something at the top that obscures the woman’s face so she is anonymous. All the woman can see is herself in the mirror. Do all of the special rooms have a hidden hole cut in the wall? Or just some of them? Can the men watch as the women suck off someone? Do the men purchase an outfit they like for the woman as payment? Maybe a son ends up watching his mother....

Thinking of #3, it could be a really exclusive lingerie store that also has other props... women can try on whatever they like but men can also pick out outfits for them to try on when they are in the booth.

Maybe some of the outfits include things like an attachable dildo or even something with a remote control...

The women can be demure if they chose, but because their face is obscured many women end up enjoying the thrill of being on display and some take it all the way.

Her son is enjoying the show and not knowing who he is watching. He and his mom went to the mall together but split up to doing their own shopping. At the end though he notices the dress she was wearing hanging on a hook on the door.... was that before or after she sucked his cock? Or maybe he sees the dress while she is sucking him ;-)