The Futile Search For "Root Causes" Of Terrorism

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For discussion purposes- poverty or the search for power? Would either be the root cause of terrorism?

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By Michael Radu

The Foreign Policy Research Institute | April 23, 2002

SOCIOECONOMIC GRIEVANCES, or so some assert, explain (though they do not justify) terrorism in general and Islamic terrorism in particular -- the factors Al Gore famously called this February "another axis of evil in the world: poverty and ignorance; disease and environmental disorder; corruption and political oppression," all of which lead to terrorism.

But do they?

It is hubris to attempt to explain terrorism in general, let alone in its many different forms across time and place.

The following observations are therefore intended only to rrefocus the debate, not to "explain" terrorism.

The desire to identify "root causes" and so be able to correct them is natural.

Root causes "have" to be there - at least in the American mind.

There must be an explanation for the inexplicable: why a teenaged Palestinian girl would blow herself up in an attempt to kill as many Jews as possible, or privileged young men of the Arab world plot to kill themselves while murdering thousands of American civilians.

But much as the frequently asked question this fall, "Why do they hate us?" had flawed premises and yielded flawed answers, framing the question as "What are the root causes of terrorism?" leads too easily to looking at the usual suspects: "poverty," "injustice," "exploitation," and "frustration."

Like the man in the parable who looks for his lost keys under the streetlight instead of where he lost them because "the light's better," it's easier to look in these familiar areas than to face and address the real problems. Those who hold to "poverty as the root cause" do so even though the data do not fit their model.

Even leaving aside multimillionaire Osama bin Laden, the
backgrounds of the September 11 killers indicate that they were without exception scions of privilege: all were either affluent Saudis and Egyptians, citizens of the wealthy Gulf statelets, or rich sons of Lebanon, trained in and familiar with the ways of the West -- not exactly the victims of poverty in Muslim dictatorships.

Many poor Egyptians, Moroccans, and Palestinians may support terrorists, but they do not -- and cannot -- provide them with recruits.

In fact, al Qaeda has no use for illiterate peasants.

They cannot participate in World Trade Center-like attacks, unable as they are to make themselves inconspicuous in the West and lacking the education and training terrorist operatives need.

Indeed, ever since the Russian intellectuals "invented"
modern terrorism in the 19th century, revolutionary violence -- terrorism is just one form of it -- has been a virtual monopoly of the relatively privileged.

Terrorists have been middle class, often upper class, and always educated, but never poor.

The South American Tupamaros and Montoneros of the 1970s were all middle class, starting as cafe Jacobins and graduating into urban terrorism, as were their followers among the German
Baader-Meinhof Gang, the Italian Red Brigades, France's Action Directe, the Sandinista leadership in Nicaragua and, before it, Fidel Castro's Cuban revolutionaries.

Considering the composition of many of the antiglobalist groups today, it is a safe bet that middle class, prosperous, and
self-righteous as they are, they will soon provide the recruits of a new wave of terrorism in the West -- as we may already be seeing in the revival of Italy's Red Brigades.

To say that economic conditions are not the root cause of terrorism is not to say that the there are no conditions that correlate strongly to political violence and terrorism.

There are phenomena we should be concerned about in this regard, it is just that they are far less obvious than poverty and much more complex to address.

Environmentalist extremists, their animal rights friends,
anti-international corporation militants, anti-genetically
modified plants fanatics a la Jose Bove -- the world's best known andal -- none of them poor or underprivileged, have already demonstrated a propensity for violence and should be expected to do so in more deadly and organized manners in the future.

That is where the Osamas of the world meet the Western
rejectionists of what the West is all about: rationality,
individual as opposed to collective rights and interests,
secularism, and capitalism.

True enough, there is little common ideological ground among French Trotskyite Arlette Laguiller (who, with colleagues, has
reached 10 percent in the polls in the first round of France's presidential elections) and Marxist-cum-separatist groups
like the Turkish PKK, the Basque ETA, the Sri Lankan LTTE, and the Irish Republican Army.

But they share a common enemy.

That enemy is the Western culture of democracy (which is correctly declared un-Islamic by all ideologues of Islamic
terrorism), capitalism (hated in a very ecumenical way by
Marxists of all stripes and Islamists), and individualism (opposed by Marxist totalitarians dreaming of Marx's stateless communist Utopia, as well as by Islamic believers in a new Caliphate to lead the community of Muslims worldwide).

But, we are told, the Islamic states are poor and
undemocratic, which justifies rebellion against their tyrannical rulers.

Why is that so, and what can be done about it by Muslims and others?

Perhaps most Muslim countries are undemocratic because they are Muslim.

When given an electoral choice in 1992 in the first and last democratic elections in the Arab world, most Algerians
preferred the Islamic Salvation Front (FIS) over the secular (and corrupt) ruling socialist party -- although perfectly aware that FIS's ideology meant not just "one man, one vote" but "one man, one vote, one time."

Which raises a very uncomfortable question for both
conservatives in the U.S., who routinely blast the lack of democracy in the Arab world, and the human rights fundamentalists such as Amnesty International on the left, who support absolute democracy and at the same time condemn the Islamist disregard of all freedoms, as in Iran.

The apologists of Marxism and Islamism also need to answer another basic question.

Did such regimes as, say, Iran, Afghanistan under the
Taliban, or the late regimes in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union actually make the life of ordinary citizens better, or worse?

And why would "democracy" be better in Saudi Arabia
morally, ideologically, and practically, where the chances of
an Islamist getting elected are at least as great as in
Algeria?

Does it make sense for the European Union to condemn
Turkey for proscribing (constitutionally, one might add) Islamist
parties?

Does Brussels really believe that an Islamic-governed Turkey is better than the current, secular Turkey, a NATO ally?

The poor in Muslim states may be the popular base of
terrorist support, but they have neither the money nor the votes (who votes doesn't count, who counts them does, in Stalin's immortal words) the privileged do.

Ultimately, Islamic terrorism, just as its Marxist or secessionist version in the West and Latin America was, is a matter of power -- who has it and how to get it -- not of poverty.

Accepting this as a fundamental aspect of terrorism does not suggest any immediate solutions, but can direct further study toward better explanations of terrorism and theories with some potential predictive value.

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Michael Radu, Ph.D., is a Senior Fellow at the Foreign
Policy Research Institute, where he directs its Center on Terrorism and Political Violence
 
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How is it that the Arabs can live in such poverty sitting atop such riches?
 
SINthysist said:
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How is it that the Arabs can live in such poverty sitting atop such riches?

Same reason Bill Gates doesn't feel bad that he lives on only $10,000,000,000 in America. What's the diff?
 
Marxist said:


Same reason Bill Gates doesn't feel bad that he lives on only $10,000,000,000 in America. What's the diff?

There is none. Same thing I think.
 
THE ARROGANCE OF YOUTH

Interesting article but it ignores the fact that terrorism is an outgrowth of revolution which has everything to do with the YOUTH of the middle class.

The most disturbing protests and riots in America occurred when there was a dispraportionate number of YOUTHs in the middle class (1920's and 1960's).

Saudi Arabia is about to really hemmorhage because 40% of the population in under the age of 14. Be afraid (the 500 princes are), this is only the beginning of a revolution.
 
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Marxist said:
Interesting article but it ignores the fact that terrorism is an outgrowth of revolution which has everything to do with the YOUTH of the middle class.

The most disturbing protests and riots in America occurred when there was a dispraportionate number of YOUTHs in the middle class (1920's and 1960's).

Good point, Marxist. I'd agree with you that a large number of displaced youth are a necessary component for violent revolutionary times, but that alone certainly isn't sufficient. There also has to be ideology that embraces and justifies violence as a means to achieving one's ends. The dominant ideology of 60's revolutionaries emphasized "peace" and "love" above all else. Certainly there were more strident groups during the time that justified change "by any means necessary" and used violence (the Black Panthers come to mind), but these groups were motivated by ideologies that permitted if not condoning violence.

I disagree strongly with this article. There's no more hubris in searching for the "root causes" of terrorism than there is searching for the root causes of any other social phenomenon - crime, social class, racism, whatever. Human behavior may not be completely explicable, but it's certainly far from being completely inexplicable. It should be obvious that there has to be considerable physical and spiritual suffering present to allow so many people to override their highest biological imperative (self-preservation) and strongest moral prohibitions in order to of kill innocents. As far as I'm concerned, the more we learn about what makes people commit acts of terrorism the better. Only then will we be able to effectly find solutions to minimize those forces in our world.

That having been said, I think there's more to stopping terrorism than addressing root causes. Those who focus on root causes only neglect the fact that the success of terrorism, once it becomes evident (as it was on 9/11) becomes its own cause.

The branch of psychology known as behaviorism has shown that behavior is complex and that the initial causes of behavior are often quite different from the reasons that motivate us to continue it. The main phenomena governing repetitive behaviors of course are reward and punishment. Our brains quite naturally adjust our motivations based on our behaviors and their near consequences. The association of a particular behavior with a pleasurable stimulus or the removal of a painful one makes it more likely that we'll repeat the behavior. Punishment with addition of a new negative stimulus makes a behavior less likely.

My point is simple - for all the condemnation terrorism receives, the brutal truth about terrorism is that it works, or at least it has so far, and as long as it does, solving "root causes" isn't going to be enough because there are all sorts of "reinforcing causes" that may be as important or even more important than the root causes. Without addressing the "maintaining causes" - the glorification of the suicide bomber, the cult of martyrdom, the justification for killing innocents, the glorification of terrorism by the state-operated media of Arab nations, the financial rewards paid by Saddam Hussein and others to the families of suicide bombers - addressing the root causes may not work very well.

As I see it, the very success of terrorism is its most important cause today. And that's why I believe a strong popular, military, and law-enforcement response is necessary. We need to aim at building a world where people believe that they build better lives by peaceful means, so ought to fashion a social environment where terrorism doesn't pay. Part of that requires a strong moral assertion that the killing of innocents is wrong along with the will and means to enforce that morality.

Easier said than done, I know.
 
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Relating to the problems in the Middle East:

Brainwashing ... Fanatical clerics lecturing in madrases, drumming their lessons of hate into the minds of innocent, young children.

Biased media ... glorifying martyrdom, skewing truth to promote hate for Americans and Jews, accentuating the frenzied call for terrorism with each sound bite.

Ignorance ... knowing only what they are fed by those in a position to use them. Adopting the truths of fanatics, without questioning alternatives.

Fear ... Afraid to believe outside the acceptable mode of operandus, from example of the corpses of retribution that lay before them, less fearful of the purported 'evil enemy' than their 'leaders'.

Sheep being led to slaughter.

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Cherry said:
Brainwashing ... Fanatical clerics lecturing in madrases, drumming their lessons of hate into the minds of innocent, young children.

Biased media ... glorifying martyrdom, skewing truth to promote hate for Americans and Jews, accentuating the frenzied call for terrorism with each sound bite.

Ignorance ... knowing only what they are fed by those in a position to use them. Adopting the truths of fanatics, without questioning alternatives.

Fear ... Afraid to believe outside the acceptable mode of operandus, from example of the corpses of retribution that lay before them, less fearful of the purported 'evil enemy' than their 'leaders'.

Sheep being led to slaughter.

How does this explain OUR terrorists like Terry Nichols, Tim McVeigh, or Eric Rudolph?


Address the topic of the post.
 
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Marxist said:


How does this explain OUR terrorists like Terry Nichols, Tim McVeigh, or Eric Rudolph?


Address the topic of the post.


My previous opinion doesn't address "OUR" terrorists, as listed above in your post.

Those would fall into the "a few nutcases with a grudge" category ... too small in comparative numbers to identify with the current, prevalent identification (of the topic) of "terrorism", as we know it now.
 
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Cherry said:



My previous opinion doesn't address "OUR" terrorists, as listed above in your post.

Those would fall into the "a few nutcases with a grudge" category ... too small in comparative numbers to identify with the current, prevalent identification (of the topic) of "terrorism", as we know it now.

Terrorism is terrorism is terrorism...

Just because the faces of the perpetrators are White and they speak English doesn't mean they're not terrorists in the truly Classic sense of the word.

The topic of the post does focus on Islamic terror but it tries to draw a parallel with Latin America's struggles. I'm simply further extending the analogy to White people in America's heartland.
 
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Marxist said:

I'm simply further extending the analogy to White people in America's heartland.

Of which, you would have to agree ... is such a minority in comparison to the numbers of people in our nation?

My point being that the coin phrase "terrorism" was not inferred in the current meaning of the word, as we know it today, to represent the examples you questioned, as a psycholigical "root cause" for terrorism.
 
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Cherry said:


Of which, you would have to agree ... is such a minority in comparison to the numbers of people in our nation?

My point being that the coin phrase "terrorism" was not inferred in the current meaning of the word, as we know it today, to represent the examples you questioned.

You're hooked on race. Did you read the article? It talked about 19th Century Russia as well as Latin American struggles, all of which occurred because of differences in class, not race or even religion.

Listen, just because it's repugnant to you that we've raise terrorists in America doesn't mean you can say that the roots of terror are something foreign. That's just too easy.

Rudolph belonged to an American movement.

McVeigh and Nichols belonged to American movements.
 
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What’s the diff?

Bill Gates does not own the country. Just Microsoft.


I agree that the root cause has been missed. The root cause is Islam Clerics declaring Jihad and telling young impressionable people that they are doing the greater good, giving them something noble to aspire to in a society that has robbed them of aspiration.

In my version, the terrorists have success only because more civilized nations will not use overwhelming strength instead focusing on understanding and appeasement.



“How does this explain OUR terrorists like Terry Nichols, Tim McVeigh, or Eric Rudolph?”

Rush Listeners ;)




This morning, I had a movement…
 
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Marxist said:
McVeigh and Nichols belonged to movements.

And I believe that the word "movement" is the operative point here.

I don't believe that there is one root cause of terrorism. I believe there are often several, which have to come together.

First, you have to have a group of people who believe, for whatever reason, that violence is the *only* way their message can be delivered. That belief can be inborn, a result of religious belief, cultivated through years of being ignored, or whatever.

Second, you have to have a target for that violence which will accept that violence as part of their lives. The target will continue to absorb the attacks and, though saddened by them, will not take whatever action necessary to make that violence too costly to carry out.

Third, you have to have a culture on "the other side" which not only accepts such violence, but promotes it. If there is no one to support, fund, and give terrorists aid and comfort, their job gets much, much harder.

That's my .02.
 
What I meant to say Jim was "American" movements (I'm gonna edit to say so).

Cherry's post made terrorism into a foreign concept, as if White America was somehow exempt fromt the same evil. On top of that it was erroneous as to the roots causes.
 
Marxist said:
What I meant to say Jim was "American" movements (I'm gonna edit to say so).

Cherry's post made terrorism into a foreign concept, as if White America was somehow exempt fromt the same evil. On top of that it was erroneous as to the roots causes.

That's how I was reading it. My points still hold, I believe, for Domestic Terrorism as well as Foreign.

Cool topic, man. :)
 
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Originally posted by Marxist
You're hooked on race.

No, I am NOT, Marxist!
I was merely verbalizing my opinion about current events, and addressing what I believed to be a root cause of terrorism, relating to the problems in the Middle East. If THAT makes me a "hooked on race" in your eyes, you can't see me very well.



Did you read the article? It talked about 19th Century Russia as well as Latin American struggles, all of which occurred because of differences in class, not race or even religion.

Yes, I read the article. :rolleyes:
And, I chose to comment on the Islamic sector to express my opinion of its "root cause", as it is what I am most familiar with. (I'll edit it to make it clearer for you.)



Listen, just because it's repugnant to you that we've raise terrorists in America doesn't mean you can say that the roots of terror are something foreign. That's just too easy.
Rudolph belonged to a movement.
McVeigh and Nichols belonged to movements.


First of all ... get off my tail!
How would you know what is repugnant to me, or not?

I don't believe that all terrorists, from all over the world, can be defined as having a similar or identifying root cause for their beliefs; but rather, that each group should be analyzed separately. I think the root causes are more pertinent to the total arena in which they learned their beliefs.

But, for you to jump to the erroneous assumption that I believe all terrorists are foreign, or that I am hooked on pointing my finger at a race, is just plain wrong, Marxist.

McVeigh and Nichols did indeed commit terrorist acts, and they belonged to a movement critical of US Government. I agree. Should the reasons for their beliefs be lumped in with today's current examples of terrorism, as a similar "root cause"? No, I think they are entirely different ... both, in how their beliefs developed eventually through life experiences /consequences, and also, their part of a very extreme minority in this country. Much different from large masses of people sharing terroristic beliefs, as part of their culture and development from a very early age.

To elaborate clearly for you:

My first posted opinion was based on the current use of terrorism, by large majorities of people in Islamic nations. Not at all applicable to the extremely small handfull (comparative to US populace) of homegrown nutcases that make headlines here. Okay?
 
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Cherry said:

My first posted opinion was based on the current use of terrorism, by large majorities of people in Islamic nations. Not at all applicable to the extremely small handfull (comparative to US populace) of homegrown nutcases that make headlines here. Okay?

Prove it. You can't.

The vast majority of Islamic people and states do not believe in terrorism to accomplish their goals any more than the vast majority of Michigan residence believe in the right of some members of the Michigan militia's bombing federal buildings in OK.
 
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Marxist said:


Prove it. You can't.

The vast majority of Islamic people and states do not believe in terrorism to accomplish their goals any more than the vast majority of Michigan residence believe in the right of some members of the Michigan militia's bombing federal buildings in OK.

Don't you read the news? Don't you watch TV? Don't you follow current events on the internet, from opposing viewpoints, as well?

Haven't you seen large numbers of people cheering in the streets in the Middle East, and burning effigies of the US, celebrating our suffering on September 11th?

Aren't you familiar with the call for 'jihad' to kill Americans, publicized in inflammatory public media transmissions on al Jazera?

Would you deny that followers of Bin Laden support his proclamations for terrorism, by rushing to his ranks by the thousands, or supporting his efforts financially?

Let me remind you of one example, as proof of the desire to accomplish goals through terrorism:

The embattled Taliban leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar, called for "the destruction of America".

"The current situation in Afghanistan is related to a greater cause - the destruction of America," Mullah Omar claimed, "The plan is going ahead and, God willing, it is being implemented. It is a huge task which is beyond the will and comprehension of human beings. If God's help is with us, this will happen within a short period of time: keep in mind this prediction. We are hopeful for God's help for our goal, God willing, America will fall to the ground,"



I have friends who are muslims in the US. I believe, as they have taught me, that the Koran teaches a peaceful, loving existence; but, to ignore the vast numbers of muslims in the Middle East, that interpret excerpts of the Koran as a reason for 'Holy War', supporting terrorism, is burying your head in the sand.

Hardly comparable to the US public consensus after the Oklahoma bombing.
 
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Oliver Clozoff said:
I disagree strongly with this article. There's no more hubris in searching for the "root causes" of terrorism than there is searching for the root causes of any other social phenomenon - crime, social class, racism, whatever. Human behavior may not be completely explicable, but it's certainly far from being completely inexplicable. It should be obvious that there has to be considerable physical and spiritual suffering present to allow so many people to override their highest biological imperative (self-preservation) and strongest moral prohibitions in order to of kill innocents. As far as I'm concerned, the more we learn about what makes people commit acts of terrorism the better. Only then will we be able to effectly find solutions to minimize those forces in our world.

Bravo. Very well said.
 
This is fucking ridiculous

McVeigh, Rudolph, et al , aren't terrorists. They are, as Chris Rock would say, "fucking crazy."

Trying to understand the root causes of terrorism will get you dead. Political correctness is the terrorists' ally, and it's hard for me to comprehend that people still think giving the Palestinians some or all of what they ask for will stop terrorism. Are you guys smoking crack? What is it you don't understand? Wake the fuck up! Millions of young people in the Middle East are being taught to hate America and Israel - that we are infidels, and must be eliminated. Their leaders openly preach hate. 9/11 and the attacks on Israel are only the beginning. The big question is do we have the balls to stop them?

I wonder what would have happened during WW II if Americans had been so concerned about trying to understand the poor Nazis and Japanese.
 
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miles said:
McVeigh, Rudolph, et al , aren't terrorists. They are, as Chris Rock would say, "fucking crazy."

Trying to understand the root causes of terrorism will get you dead. Political correctness is the terrorists' ally, and it's hard for me to comprehend that people still think giving the Palestinians some or all of what they ask for will stop terrorism. Are you guys smoking crack? What is it you don't understand? Wake the fuck up! Millions of young people in the Middle East are being taught to hate America and Israel - that we are infidels, and must be eliminated. Their leaders openly preach hate. 9/11 and the attacks on Israel are only the beginning. The big question is do we have the balls to stop them?

I wonder what would have happened during WW II if Americans had been so concerned about trying to understand the poor Nazis and Japanese.

So what do you propose miles?

Mass exermination of those ascribing to the Muslim faith? Or maybe just those occupying the West Bank? That's what Sharon wants. Doesn't it seem strange that all this shit flared up when he got involved. Sharon visits jerusalem and snubs his nose at the Palestinians and voila....the shit hits the fan. There has been more death and violence since the hard liners took over and applied the "proper solution" to the problem than any moderates have presided over.

No matter how wide of an angle you can get on a video camera, I would venture to say that you can't get every Palestinian in one shot. Yes you get the vocal ones but that does not a majority make. If it did I could assume that most of the US is run by the KKK. Or whatever activist group du jour I may have seen on the tube last night.

Trying to understand the causes of terrorism won't get you dead. According to Miles logic ignorance is the way to go. You can't deal with a problem until you understand it.

Mcveigh was a terrorist. He was making a political statement with his actions. Andrea Yates was fucking crazy.
 
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miles said:
McVeigh, Rudolph, et al , aren't terrorists. They are, as Chris Rock would say, "fucking crazy."

There are a few of us Okies that would disagree with you.

I wonder what would have happened during WW II if Americans had been so concerned about trying to understand the poor Nazis and Japanese.

His name was Neville Chamberlain. Ask any Chech,
 
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